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The Granger is floating

I take no relish to report that The Granger has been banned.

This account and I have been at odds in the past months. Prior to that, I sent it a couple dozen FRNs to attend a Republican meeting. (It later said, after I expressed shame at supporting it, that it had sent those contributions to Michael. This matters to me little; I expressed that I was sad that I had supported this individual, and I still am, regardless of what other financial actions this individual takes.)

The person or people at the other end of that account have personally attacked me, and have violated the rules, repeatedly.

Last night's violation was apparently enough to cause a moderator to take notice.

I won't editorialize further. I am sad that this came to pass; I have tried to help her remember and honor her agreement (to not hawk Israel at this site), but she either forgot or, as has seemed more and more the case lately, just doesn't care.

I am not happy about this turn of events. However, I am quite relieved. I hope that this site can return to having more focus, than the contrast that this account brought, inappropriately.



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Amen

Amen

Ventura 2012

Well, I hope they have.

I hope I haven't been talking to myself all this time.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

I became almost 100% convinced, The Granger & Jill Booth

Were the same person(s), controlling both accounts: their almost identical hatred of Edward Snowden/Glenn Greenwald, almost identical hatred and blame it all on the United Nations, and many, many similar spelling mistakes [vowels and certain words, that no other two members of DailyPaul similarly made, especially over and over and over again, that I also catalogued with saved screen captures of]. The only real difference, was The Granger's pro-Israel love and Jill Booth's Israel neutrality and occasional condemnation.

Anyway. I have nothing mean to say about either, that I haven't already said to them in the past. I already just ignored Granger, with occasional down votes if she was clearly being ridiculous.

Whether they were the same person(s) or not, have a happy life. Bye-bye.

Even though I commented on this thread.

WHO sees Granger as an 'individual' and not a CIA op account?

The 'personality' flip flopped all over from Ron Paul Everything, to growing gardens, to standing with Rand, to Israel, to absolute confusion from the basic liberty message.

Nothing is more obvious to me.

This whole thing is about US as individuals standing on the principles America was founded on.

The current opportunity for people to freely exchange ideas is killing the police state faster then they continue to build it.

'Granger' served her purpose in that respect.

Base

And we shall stand. I see simply physiological pathology.

If you know of her past as some of us do....

grange spent many years pursuing her physical dream which was to be the ultimate surfer and she manufactured surfboards.

Hundreds and hundreds, maybe even thousands to try to perfect her art.

She was HEAVILY HEAVILY EXPOSED TO ORGANIC AND SYNTHETIC TOXINS.

HEY LISTEN, HIPPIES BACK THEN, THEY JUST DID IT AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE KNOW NOW ABOUT THESE TOXINS.

I HONSESTLY BELIEVE that what we are seeing is basically early onset end stage neurogenic breakdown almost like we see in very very very very extreme alcoholics or other people exposed to organic toxins: it destroys your brain but your brain keeps trying to hook up new pathways.

If you knew her as long as some of us do, you can see clear pattern of degredation and in fact AT ONE POINT SHE TOLD US THIS WOULD HAPPEN AND SHE ASKED SOME OF US TO LOOK OUT FOR HER

AND THAT IS WHY KITTANS. THAT IS WHY. AND THAT IS WHY SOME OF US WILL STAND BY HER TO THE END.

You are young and cannot be blamed, all you see is her now. But if you are wondering why, why she has been tolerated so long,

it's because you are young and she has run circles around your tender diapered butts when we didn't have mass support and we did actually have to keep our identities secret.

Do you even know who I am?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPE

You have no idea who I am and you have no idea what my service to this movement is, there are like 3 people in this whole world that do. And one of them is dead. His name was Aaron Russo. The other one is Vermin Supreme. Who is the third?

I promise you this;

you will never ever know in this lifetime.

Some of you can tell my mind is going along with my pathology. I can't remember things as fast. I don't recognize faces anymore, only names. And you know that I will devolve into a dream state which most will identify as psychosis.

Will you throw me out? Can't blame you.

Ask yourself. Will you be thrown out one day? And where will you be then?

Heh. I was once like you. Young and cool.

Bless you young ones. These are hard matters. It was hard then and it's hard now.

Bless you young ones.

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

deacon's picture

yes oyate

You see,even here,we eat our own,you will be thrown over board
and not too many will care...But the young are not as blameless
as you purport in your post
D

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

That explains a lot

.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

this is very interesting Smudge Pot--

Thank you.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Thanks for NAILING THE TRUTH !!

its good(and sad) to know that basically stating your opinion on DP w/a poorly chosen link can get you kicked out!(not even warned, just killed!) forget all the good contributions one made in the past, forget all the activism, forget all the people you inspired , one mistake and YOUR DEAD FOREVER, NO WAY OF BEING REVIVED ,NOTHING. Eventually there will only be people who ALL AGREE ABOUT EVERYTHING , left. No real debate, or discussion, just a bunch of people saying the same thing, in different words.

There Really should be a 3 strikes your out, or an automatic 3 day time out period, before banning becomes permanent. It would give a person a chance to recompose their thoughts/ideas/ opinions etc to evaluate whether they really back their error, or if they realize they were out of line. Guess what that's called LEARNING . But no, were past that now, everyone must now be perfect all the time .

(there really should be a warning in the rules, or on the main page that warns people to not drink, do drugs, take meds, or any other mind altering substance, as one mistake here and your will be banned for all of eternity! ) Sad... just sad!

TwelveOhOne's picture

It was not a single mistake, please consider the history

This account was banned for some time last year. So two strikes? (Perhaps it was banned more than the one, I've only been here two years.)

You should feel free to alter your brain chemistry via food or in any way you like and continue to communicate. And you're right, if there is some evil in you, you may want to remain sober while communicating. This doesn't only apply to Daily Paul.

Smudge Pot's words about organic toxins are saddening; I was already saddened about this event. And yes, if I devolve into a similar method of communicating, I expect my ability to communicate to be cut off.

I love you. I'm sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you.
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http://jsjinc.net - Jin Shin Jyutsu (energy healing)

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Smudge Pot, you make a very valid point

1. Most of us don't know that about her. I have heard you mention it before, and thank you for doing that, for reminding me and the rest of the community who she is.

She is a person there. All the writing, the blah-blah-blah is just projection. It says more about the person writing it than anything about who the Granger is and was.

I wonder if it changes anyone's opinion here? What I always felt about the Granger was that she had a good heart. But that she's gone crazy, in a sense. Brain messed up. A fate that awaits us all.

And it is right, Smudge, we don't know you. Maybe it is time for a formal introduction. All I know is bits and pieces.

Derrell Walters really paved the way. About dwalters. Epic.

The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. - Alan Watts

All I am is an echo now brother

What we were.

I will publish again what it means to be a warrior to us. Or what it used to. And what it might mean again.

HAUDENOSNEE!

HAUDENOSSNEE!

HAUDENSOSNEE

HAUDENOSNEE.

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

HAUDENOSNEE

BROTHERS,

I call you into this circle.

You gave me the call and now I call you back.

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

A formal introduction

accepted with great joy.

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

Hey not for nothing

but I got Granger's email. She's not actually thrown away.

Hey kids me and Grange been in this game longer than some of you been alive. I know what she sounds like to you but....it also looks like we throw some people away. We don't.

DP is just a reflection of a community. The real community that gave rise to DP is still there.

The fact is some of us are devoted to Grange for this reason: who she was. That lasts for this life and the next one.

Now our eyes are on you youngers. Can you do better? It really is your problem now and guess what?

GRANGER WASN'T YOUR PROBLEM.

Much 3VOL,

old dirty Smudge Pot

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

Does she frequent the RPF?

Does she frequent the RPF? Tell her to find me there. I am still Unknownuser over there.

LOVE TO YOU SMUDGE.

I've just put you in the same catagory as 'The Granger'.

You and Her I would never put on 'Ignore', I just wouldn't come here as often.

There are a lot of other sites.

hey somebody negged you and i'm gonna let that stand

your kind message of love has been negged.

my judgment is to let it stand and look them in the face.

They can live with hate. We won't.

MAJOR HUG

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

I recognize you.

as a poster of repute.

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

That was...

...kind of bizarre to me, why she would have posted that link. Surely she would have known that was crossing a bunch of lines? Maybe it was an intentional exit in a way?

Regardless of our disagreements past and present, I hope she finds her way (back?) to Love and Liberty in her life, wherever she goes from here. Safe journeys, Granger.

Petition to petition for Granger on Whitehouse.gov

Dear President Obama,

We the undersigned present this petition to make a petition to SAVE THE GRANGER. Or Grange The Savior. Or Grave the Sanger or whatever has the most ironic import and THAT IS OUR MAJOR HANGUP HERE.

Frankly we're not sure who she's working for or why and we're entirely sure you don't either. You are the only person in this universe that deserves her less than you because one thing makes us different:

We actually care about humans as individuals and not the props you take us for. Regardless, she's twice the woman you are Barak and 5 times the man (she's only twice the man most of us are you wimpasaur) and if as usual you don't do shat jit, we will so this is mostly a courtesy. Or a warming or a cordial reminder:

OUR WOMEN CAN KICK YOU AND YOUR WHOLE STAFF'S TAIL FROM HERE UNTO HOLY SABBATH ANY OLD TIME YOU WANNA PICK UP YOUR CHENEY AND FEEL LIKE DONNER AND BLIXEN CAN CARRY YOU, KISSINGER AND THE REANIMATED CORPSE OF NIXON TO A NIGHT OUT ON THE TOWN.

Yeh. You can't handle that. She rip it right off your body.

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

One more pseudo-libertarian

One more pseudo-libertarian gone, 99 to go.

"In reality, the Constitution itself is incapable of achieving what we would like in limiting government power, no matter how well written."

~ Ron Paul, End the Fed

Words can't express my feelings...

but this begins to

http://youtu.be/76RrdwElnTU

A signature used to be here!

Like her or not, Granger was

Like her or not, Granger was the most vocal female voice on the Daily Paul.

I've been here for over six years, and the only other highly vocal female voice besides Granger was fishyculture, and she got banned too.

Yes, they were loud and lippy, but that's what women do in a forum full of sausage.

A business model of political inclusiveness built the Daily Paul.

Variety has always been good for business.

Even if you don't agree, so what? Down vote, respond if you wish, and move on.

Disagreement is a sign of progress. People agreeing on everything out of fear of being banned is a sign of regression.

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

fishyculture also had some pretty heavy . . .

chemical damage.

It's hard to stay balanced when that has happened to *you*.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

I agree

Ok, what did Granger do to kicked off?

TwelveOhOne's picture

Hi truxtonc

See the write-up at the top of the page; the link to her offending post is in the word "violated". Someone also posted the same link that she had posted to this thread and was banned, with some amusing follow-up comments.

I love you. I'm sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you.
http://fija.org - Fully Informed Jury Association
http://jsjinc.net - Jin Shin Jyutsu (energy healing)

What does a female voice

sound like in type?

http://youtu.be/nlcIKh6sBtc


http://youtu.be/nlcIKh6sBtc

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

That girl's stupid hot

Does Granger look like that?

Daaaamn, I ought to have been kinder.

:-)

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."