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Dear Rand...Please, NEVER, EVER apologize or take back your remarks on Dick Cheney

I heard John Bolton, the AMERICAN TRAITOR, WAR-MONGER, NEO-CON, Ex-U.N. STOOGE say recently that Rand Paul should apologize to DICK Cheney and retract his remarks on the immorality of the Iraq war.

Bolton is the same one who believes Edward Snowden deserves the death penalty (for keeping his oath to uphold the Constitution).

I pray Rand NEVER takes anything back. What he said was the simple truth and WE ALL KNOW IT.

If there is a HELL in the afterlife, people like Cheney and Rumsfeld (and Bolton) will be there burning the hottest.

The blood, lives and human misery of untold tens of thousands (probably hundreds of thousands) of Iraqis, Afghanis, Pakistanis AND Americans are on their hands.

Unfortunately it was done IN OUR NAMES with OUR TAX MONEY for the gain of the war-profiteers.

Things are going to get real ugly for Rand as the full weight of the establishment, war-loving wing of the republican party comes down hard on him.

I just want Rand Paul to know that many, many of us have his back - at least on this issue of unjust war.

And to stand his ground, keep speaking the truth and hang on through the tight turns in the next couple of years.

The fight is on already.




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Rand should attack them even further.


Rand should attack them even further. This would be smart strategy for several reasons.

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. A lot of voters have short memories. It is important to discredit the Bush Administration in the minds of people all over again throughout the next year (starting now), as reckless & inappropriate leaders and not good for the Country .... as Jeb Bush gets ready to run for President. Without this, any Bush is a "brand name" in politics, and a lot of Americans will just vote for him without thinking (just as they did for his dumb, half-retarded brother).

. If Rand wants to win the GOP nomination, he needs to reshape public opinion within the GOP in his favor ... about what kind of defense policies make sense, and what kind of policies are totally reckless and morally treacherous. It will take a long, long time to convert the minds of many GOP voters -- who have become used to revering any Military action as necessarily 'heroic', and regarding any diplomacy as an act of 'weakness'. Rand needs to also define the big difference between actual defense, and excessive militarism and military adventurism.

. The more public attention that is put now on the Iraq War Lies, and Human Torture -- the more and more people will repudiate it and decide not to go down that path again (or follow those who supported it all). Rand should shine a big, big spotlight on this ... and keep it in the spotlight & News Cycle. Let Cheney and Bolton fume away and look silly (and corrupt) by trying to defend themselves. This is ultimately good for the GOP, and for Rand to hold up the facts high ... and have that win out over all the War & Torture propaganda.

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Rand should now exploit this debate, and take it up a notch. This is what real leaders do. They reshape the political landscape and force orthodoxy into retreat and repudiation.

Pedal to the metal.

There going to try to Ron

There going to try to Ron Paul 2008, Ron Paul 2012 Rand Paul all over again

Rand won't take back a thing because...

he is correct and the facts are on his side. Plus, Rand is a helluva more popular than Dick.

robot999's picture

This could be GOOD for Rand

Try this on:

The Neocon HATERS gonna HATE (no matter what). Can't fix it, don't try.
General Republicans will vote "R" even if Rand is the nominee (not saying he will be, but one can hope)
The Progressives will never vote for a Republican - well almost never - suppose it could happen, but mark them off the list.

That leave the SWING voters - Independents, Liberals, Libertarians, and guess what - those groups probable agree with him on this point. Win Win!

"Government is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex". - Frank Zappa

To Cheyney and friends

There may be a chance that Rand looks at this site from time...

...to time, which is why I posted this.

It's actually a memo to Rand himself in case he could use some support on this issue.

I'm hearing more establishment war-monger republicans saying the same thing as Bolton...that Rand should take it back.

The heat will get HOT and Rand will need as much moral support as possible on this.

If anyone reading this lives in Kentucky I wish they would email him my post.

I don't think I can get thru being I'm not a KY resident. I may try anyway.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Pshh. What self respecting

Pshh. What self respecting politician takes anything back these days when you can equivicate? Lol.

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I agree! Never recant on the

I agree! Never recant on the truth.

Individualism-
To be nobody but yourself in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you everybody else means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can fight; and never stop fighting.
e.e. cummings

I agree, and I'm bumping--

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it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Cheney is a scumbag...

...with a capital scum...and bag.

I know it, you know it, Rand knows it.

But, the unfortunate reality is that questioning the motives of a public figure in this country is considered off-limits. "Mother Jones" (aka Bolsheviki Weekly) came out with this story (just "happened" to dig up this old video) to make Rand look "kooky," for questioning Cheney's motives.

I hope Rand can exploit this opportunity to argue even more strongly against neocon foreign policy, but I will understand if he has to walk it back a bit.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

but I will understand if he

but I will understand if he has to walk it back a bit.

I won't. If he does, he loses many votes in the peace wing.

Never trouble trouble til trouble troubles you. Fortune Cookie

I Have Been Quietly Waiting For Someone To Bring This Up

I Have Been Quietly Waiting For Someone To Bring This Up.

Thank You.

Because if there EVER was something that UNITED US ALL behind RON PAUL is that HE IS NOT A COWARD.

Interview Time.

Hmmmmm?

RON PAUL R[3]VOLUTION

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Yeah pawnstorm! I hear you on that one.

BTW. Congrats on the Seahawks. Seattle must have been rocking. My friend went to the parade. That is a special feeling - a city parade.

I'm excited. I hope Seattle can build a dynasty. Wilson is so young! The Pats here are so stingy. They just won't pay to build a team around Brady.

- - - -What you've said here is so incredibly powerful.

The blood and lives and human misery of untold tens of thousands of Iraqis, Afghanis, Pakistanis AND Americans are on their hands.

All art is only done by the individual. The individual is all you ever have, and all schools only serve to classify their members as failures. E.H.

What!?

The Super Bowl out of no where, its been two months. Super Bowl forever. Super Bowl will live in infamy =D

Thank you Michael - and God bless you for this forum.

We have to take note of the tough road Rand has ahead of him and like his dad, most of the heat will come from his own (immoral) party!

I don't think they are going to pull any punches as 2016 gets closer.

On the subject of the Seahawks, it was an exciting time.

There is something special about a team's first Superbowl win which can never be repeated again.

I happened to be downtown the day of the parade.

There were estimates of several hundred thousand people present and not one arrest that day.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Go Hawks!

Best team in Seattle history!

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

God Bless Michael Nystrom ♥

The blood and lives and human misery of untold tens of thousands of Iraqis, Afghanis, Pakistanis AND Americans are on their hands.

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