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Stefan Molyneux ~ The Truth About the Nevada Ranchers Standoff


http://youtu.be/GQb0qJLhea8

Nevada Rancher Cliven Bundy is locked in a standoff with the federal Bureau of Land Management over illegal cattle grazing, endangered tortoises and property rights. It gets even better...

The fight involves a 600,000-acre area under BLM control called Gold Butte, near the Utah border. The is the habitat of the protected desert tortoise, and the land has been off-limits for cattle since 1998.

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I do enjoy listening to his common sense, it is a shame

That most of his videos and explanations are looooooong, too long to quickly catch up on a daily basis, but he should have someone breaking down topics on a timeline so we can still focus on specific concerns instead of listening to over an hour videos to get to the meat of the matter.

Always remember:
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." ~ Samuel Adams
If they hate us for our freedom, they must LOVE us now....

Stay IRATE, remain TIRELESS, an

Molyneux always there to put

Molyneux always there to put the puzzle toegther in the minds of the unenlightened.

Stefan Molyneux makes a lot

Stefan Molyneux makes a lot of good points in his video.

...

Molyneux's

full of shit

The Description Contains "The Lie"

...and yes, I downvoted this "article"
UP Voted your comment.

Molyneux IS Full of Sh*t!

http://www.nhteapartycoalition.org/tea/2014/04/12/truth-abou...

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

To Use the Phrase "Illegally Grazing" is Misleading

...it only serves to perpetuate "THE LIE".
Molyneux is as much a windbag, as any talking head on MSM.
His video is torturous to view in entirety, and rambles on into so many points that one wonders: "Is he stoned"?

Here's WHAT he could have researched and submitted:
"The Right of Easement by Means of Prescription";
(remember, Bundy's family has been on this land since 1832)

"How are prescriptive rights acquired?
There are 3 ways in which prescriptive rights can be acquired- under the Prescription Act 1832, common law or the doctrine of lost modern grant. The latter is the most commonly used, as once the 20 year period is established, the prescriptive right is acquired and cannot be lost even if the use is stopped or prevented. Under the 1832 Act, the 20 year period must be immediately before any court action or application to the Land Registry is made to crystallise the easement."

Therein lies the defense of Bundy's actions.
....And it did NOT take a 20-some-odd rambling rant to express it.
SO....Molyneux IS FULL of SH*T!..just another talking head.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

LittleWing's picture

Bundy's Defense

please review this court case

Government's Shocking Interference in Rancher's Life -The Wayne Hage Story
http://www.dailypaul.com/316686/governments-shocking-interfe...

Thank you!

If Wars Can Be Started by Lies, They Can Be Stopped By Truth.

I Did...And Although Updated...

...We must "keep it simple" in Bundy's case, lest the "tin-foil-hat" label be used against our sound reasonings expressed here.

BASIC CASE...BASIC, SOUND ADVICE:
"WH: The basic advice that I would give anybody facing a challenge from government taking, regulatory or physical, is number one, exhaust your administrative remedies the most effective way that you can and if that sounds complicated, let me make it simple. Do not enter into the argument over rules and regulations.... Refuse to get dragged into the trap about wetlands, endangered species, or any of the other issues that they try to sidetrack you with and eventually get you into Federal District Court. If a person will follow that track, they can exhaust their administrative remedies..."

THIS is why a "Right of Way by Prescription" is relevant.
SIMPLE....BASIC....UNDERSTOOD in COMMON LANGUAGE.
Communicate the merits of this defense to the public and you have at least a "ghost of a chance"....even if the judge is a Harry Reid crony.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

LittleWing's picture

I agree, a fellow DP member

Tyschev, pointed that part out also and commented re: Effectiveness in the fight here:

http://www.dailypaul.com/316686/governments-shocking-interfe...

* I am not preparing to communicate the defense to the public at large but just fleshing out some raw input for review. ;) That is why I sent it to Ben Swann so he could take a look and communicate it effectively IF it is worthy. ;)

If Wars Can Be Started by Lies, They Can Be Stopped By Truth.

Well...

He is pretty snarky.

He's obviously never lived anywhere with buttes.

He's wrong (mostly) about the Spotted Owl and NW Logging.
(What did the timber industry in was running out of timber -
after decades of overcutting - the amount that is "locked up"
in wilderness wouldn't amount to enough to keep it going for
long.)

etc.

But I think he actually called the Bundy/BLM thing pretty well.

Best bit.

"BLM and the Nat. Park Services have made a repeated attempts to resolve the matter administratively and judicially, impoundment of cattle illegally grazing on public lands is an option of last resort."

See, this is what the government calls 'an attempt to resolve the matter administratively and judicially,' which is, "Give us all your cattle, which we will sell to pay the fines we imposed upon you, to save a tortoise that we're currently murdering ourselves, or we will shoot your family.

on the 5 yesterday they said

That the state of Nevada made an agreement with the federal government to turn over that land. Anybody know why they did that?

Dig a little deeper, Stefan

It's about mineral rights. All else is cover.
http://offgridsurvival.com/militia-on-their-way-to-bundy-ran...

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Cows...

The Philosophy Of Liberty -
http://www.thephilosophyofliberty.com/

Isn't Clark County a

Isn't Clark County a stronghold of Ron Paul supporters without the election and voter fraud of course? Just saying?

The most interesting tortoise in the world

He once won a race with a hare........By walking slow
"I very seldom require security, but when I do it's not from the BLM."
"Range free my friends"

Dedicated to the Tortoise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3Rzug1OWPU