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Judge Napolitano on the Ranch Rebellion


“The federal judiciary should not be deciding what land the federal government owns,” said Napolitano, adding that the feds should have placed a lien against Bundy’s property to collect grazing fees and not conducted a raid backed up by armed agents to seize his private property.

“The government’s option is to take the amount of money he owes them and docket it, that is file the lien on his property….the federal government could have done that, instead they wanted this show of force,” said Napolitano, adding, “They swooped in….with assault rifles aimed and ready and stole this guy’s property, they stole his cattle, they didn’t have the right to do that, that’s theft and they should have been arrested by state officials”.


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With all due respect..is it

With all due respect..is it my imagination or are there an inordinate amount of expatriot Brits who are ending up as quasi journalists, tv hosts/commentators in North American TV? Are they part of a foreign workers program? They don't seem to offer anything special for being hired and chosen over American or Canadian candidates...

The theory is that the audience will fall for the accent as

being 'sophisticated'

Not really.

But I never watch Fox or the rest of the MSM so what do I know

As much as I prefer well

As much as I prefer well spoken English... I don't see the Brits as having a "sophisticated" accent. In days of yore...North American TV personalities modelled good elocution and trained timbre of speech. I find the British accent more of an annoyance rather than having substantial content. ie Glen Greenwald is worth listening to in his American "accent". Nigel Farage is worth listening to in his British "accent".

Good observation!

I've wondered that myself. I believe the Brits have never gotten over losing the revolutionary war. We know they tried again in 1812, and lost. I believe they decided to go about it another way. See article linked below.


By the way, not much respect, if any, is due people who are undermining our rights.

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Liberty is the ability to do what you ought to do.
"Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." 2 Corinthians 3:17

What do you expect?

We never stopped being Britain's bitch, not for a second.

A signature used to be here!

Rupert Murdoch owns Fox News.

After the 2011 scandal in the UK several of the "journalists" were brought here. That's how we got Piers Morgan. He was the editor of News of the World and was alleged to be involved in the phone and email hacking.


It's the accent

Much like in Men in Tights we just can't get the accent right.

Judge Nap admits he does not know if Bundy's

trial was fair or not? How about the judge that ruled in the case was elevated to federal court with the support of good old Harry. Bundy has said the fees should be around $330,000 (which he will gladly pay to the state)but the feds want $1.1 million. Guess the penalties and interest really added up.



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Lets get it on MFers!!!!

Senator Rand Paul needs to get off of his political ass now and get vocal about this wholesale EXTORTION of Ranch owners...

Where is Ron Paul on this issue...

We are fighting for everyone's liberty here!!

If I have to go to Nevada to stick my 2 cents in I WILL!!

The Judge is right, Bundy is escaping personal responsibility

He DID sign a contract with the feds and was just lovin' it because taxpayers footed the bill to run and even build his ranch. Bundy was infamous for being a "welfare rancher", something tax payer advocates have fought for decades. When it came time to pay the piper once again he refused since his fee money was no longer used to upgrade his property. While I think it was beyond stupid for the federal government to act the way they did, Mr Bundy owes some hard working taxpayers some dough. Here is the interview from his daughter complaining about having to pay out of pocket to keep his ranch going:


"Bundy was infamous for being a welfare rancher"

Sandra, please supply a link,source or fact attesting to the "infamy" you "lay claim" to.
Are you privvy to some info we all haven't known?

If it's just your "opinion", perhaps to preface your statement with an IMHO would be pertinent in this case.

Cliven Bundy inherited the "allotment"; there was no payments nor contracts in past useage of the property to which he had "pre-emptive rights" to.
He was NOT a "welfare rancher" in MY OPINION, and would NOT have entered into any "contracts", if given the choice.
The BLM had a "contract" with him, and when they defaulted on their responsibility? BUNDY FIRED THEM.
Please check out my many comments on this, most notably is the one detailing Cliven Bundy's Legal Right by Prescription which predates any "claim" by the Federal Government to said land, and its use.
I did NOT Downvote you, but await your reply.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Wake up Sandra.

You are asleep.

Or a zombie. A brain dead zombie.

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Do you actually belive that?

I just sent my extortion fees to the IRS today. What possible claim do I have that Clive Bundy owes me anything?!? I've never met him, his cows don't bother me, and I have no reason to expect he owes me anything.

That whole argument is an obfuscation of the debate. If Bundy owes to some generic taxpayer, then he must be stealing from me personally. It's a crock argument to get people that have no business with Bundy to somehow think they personally are worse off because of him. It has no basis in reality.

"Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito."

Classic case of

Classic case of class warfare.

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Liberty is the ability to do what you ought to do.
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Good point!

Good point!

Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

I can see that perspective, and the perspective that Bundy has

In my opinion this is a state issue and the state had abdicate its responsibility. The county sheriff abdicated his responsibility so the responsibility fell to the people and they did not abdicated their responsibility.

This is the second time the judge has sounded confused

The first was when he said that "freedom of religion only applies to religious ceremony". Sigh.

Now he says that by coming in force with guns they are stealing this guys property and that instead they should just take his ranch via the courts instead.

So it's not stealing if it is done through the courts? Sadly that is how people look at it and apparently the judge does too. That is the idea that just because a law has been passed it somehow negates theft or that wrong can be legislated into right.

Theft is theft no matter how they try to justify it through our corrupted judicial system.

Pretty sure he doesn't feel

Pretty sure he doesn't feel that it is 'ok', which he insinuated by saying "I don't know how fair his trial was..." He wasn't ruling on the morality of the law either, merely stating how the federal government usually handles situations such as this one to point out how much they had deviated from it in this instance. Which makes people wonder why.

If ignorance is bliss, Washington DC must be heaven.

In both cases

he said it in a matter of fact manner which indicates a matter of accepted belief. I would like to accept it as you have suggested but it's not just what he said but how he said it, in each case.

I think the Judge has it wrong

There is no mandate or authority for the federal Gov't to "exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings"

This idea that Public Lands can be used for Profit is just plain stupid. Public Private Partnership is just an innocent sounding name for Fascism. Fascism is often used 'for the good of the people', but as Hayek and many others have shown it ALWAYS leads to Cronyism and Abuse.

The Judge was right in that this is a State Issue.

That pesky Constitution! Do

That pesky Constitution! Do we really expect any of our government officials, especially our "Courts of law", whether state or federal, to read or obey it anymore, despite their sworn oaths to support and defend it? So the Constitution only authorizes the US government to exercise authority over such places that it purchases from a state legislature for "Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings". How quaint! Would someone please inform me as to how title to or authority over the property in question was retained or re-acquired by the US government after the State of Nevada was admitted to the union.

Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

Good point...


I hope you are right. I was disappointed to here the Judge's

response on this situation. I think he is usually right on issues but would love to know that he has this issue wrong.


Did you notice?

The Judge said, He did not know whether the court decisions were correct, "but assuming they are, they should have docketed the fees..."

He was only saying what the government could have done IF the Bundy's were in the wrong. He did not say they were in the wrong.

Perhaps he is walking a thin line, or perhaps he has not had the time to research or read the DP (a great source for the truth about many issues); at any rate he was not as bad as he sounded.

It would be interesting to see whether the black commentator who made the great comments at the end is able to hold onto his job!

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Liberty is the ability to do what you ought to do.
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Read this Judges Decision!

Government's Shocking Interference in Rancher's Life

"A startling decision on government wrongdoing by a federal court in U.S. v. Estate of E. Wayne Hage gives credence to those who say that the federal government is engaging in a “war on the West” that is hurting rural communities. It is a stark reminder of how powerful our federal government is today and how it can ruin the lives and businesses of American citizens.

The 104-page opinion by U.S. District Court Judge Robert C. Jones on May 23 in Nevada tells a sordid and infuriating tale of a two-decades-long conspiracy among federal employees of the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) of the Department of the Interior to deny the grazing rights of a Nevada ranching family, interfere with their water rights, and destroy their cattle business by scaring away their customers."

Judge Jones did not mince words: “[T]he Government’s actions over the past two decades shocks the conscience of the Court.” The judge concluded that the government denied the renewal of the Hages’ grazing permit for a “nonsensical” reason that was “arbitrary” and “vindictive.” The employees of the BLM “entered into a literal, intentional conspiracy to deprive the Hages not only of their permits but also of their vested water rights.” Some of the Hages’ “vested stock watering rights” on local streams and wells dated back as far as 1866 and 1874; most of them had been established by late 1800s and early 1900s."


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