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Some More Questions on the Bundy Fiasco (Updated w/footnotes)

There's an aspect of this Bundy story that I haven't seen mentioned.

(And please understand - I'm making no accusations here, just asking questions.)

It's been reported elsewhere that the BLM Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone report was the initiative leading to the BLM aggression against Bundy. That report was the outcome of the process used to measure the impact of (and mandate a strategy for) "compensating for the unavoidable (environmental and other) impacts that are expected from the development of the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone".(1)

It seems that the poor desert tortoise, as well as plant species such as the "rosy two-toned penstemon, (also known as pinto beardtongue)", were discovered by BLM to be so threatened by the solar plant, (even after mandated protections would be implemented on the land occupied by the solar plant), that land use restrictions had to be placed on adjacent lands, so as to "mitigate" the environmental destruction caused by the solar plant.

Well if you slog through that report, and especially the accompanying FAQ, you will learn that the "Solar Regional Mitigation Planning" (SRMP) process that resulted in this report is a new process, a pilot process actually, that just coincidentally happened to be tried for the first time on this project. Hmmm. (2)

Evidently, the usual environmental impact process requires the developer to propose an environmental "minimization strategy" to the BLM, which might go back and forth between BLM and the developer until finally approved. (Admittedly, one can imagine how frustrating this might be.)

This new SRMP pilot process, implemented (according to the BLM) to reduce developer frustration, has BLM actually initiating and conducting the impact study process themselves, resulting in a report complete with their own proposed solutions (3), one of which (in this case) was to offset, or "mitigate", the environmental impact of the solar plant with aggressive protection of affected species on adjacent lands, including the land Bundy's cattle were grazing.

So here's what we have:

- The BLM, headed by a Harry Reid crony, just happens to initiate a brand new pilot mitigation planning process on THIS Nevada solar project, the same project where the solar energy developer happens to be represented by one lawyer, Rory Reid.

- This new SRMP process results in a "mitigation strategy" requiring (among other adjacent land use restrictions) Mr. Bundy to cease and desist his cattle from "trespassing" on (claimed) BLM managed land.

- It has also been reported that the solar energy firm got a helluva deal on the land. (Typical crapitalism in action?)

Now, I'm far from an expert on environmental "mitigation" requirements resulting from western land development, and while there appear to be some solid dots here connecting them will require the attention of an investigator with access to the principals for questionsing. In the meantime, inquiring minds wonder:

1. If this Reid represented solar energy firm, in addition to getting a sweet deal on the land acquisition, didn't also get a sweet deal on the environmental impact cost from this new "pilot" BLM managed impact study and proposal as well?

2. In addition to the Bundy grazing land, what else the BLM grabbed as a result of this study?

3. Who made the decision to institute a new, BLM led, "mitigation" strategy, and why was the Dry Lake SEZ chosen as the SRMP pilot site?

4. If this SRMP strategy is going to be the new one going forward, where the BLM decides what nearby occupied land it's gonna grab and control as a result of every new development proposal - all for the protection of the poor impacted species of course, and at the expense - not of the developer - but of the owners/users of adjacent "mitigated" land?

Footnotes:

(1) Clive Bundy's cattle reportedly "trespass" on the Gold Butte ACEC (Area of Critical Environmental Concern). The Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone report identified the Gold Butte ACEC as the primary location for "mitigation" of the environmental damage likely to be caused by the solar energy plant.

The proposed regional mitigation locations and actions will mitigate for the temporary loss of some of the resources that will occur as a result of solar development in the Dry Lake SEZ (e.g., loss of creosote-bursage vegetation, loss of general and BLM special status species habitat, loss of cryptobiotic soil crusts and desert pavement, and loss of the ecosystem services these resources provide). The BLM Southern Nevada District Office considered several regional mitigation action alternatives. The suite of potential mitigation actions were generated by soliciting proposals from the public and from BLM staff in the district. The proposals included:
• Restoring disturbed land in several ACECs and one national conservation area in the vicinity of the Dry Lake SEZ.
• Preventing further degradation in several ACECs and one national conservation area in the vicinity of the Dry Lake SEZ.
• Acquiring private land in the vicinity of the Dry Lake SEZ and managing it for conservation values.

The following proposed mitigation locations were screened and given a preliminary ranking using criteria based on the regional mitigation goals described in Section 2.5. The results of the ranking are summarized in the screening table for candidate regional mitigation locations for the Dry Lake SEZ (Appendix D):
Gold Butte ACEC.
• Mormon Mesa ACEC.
• Coyote Springs ACEC.
• Piute-Eldorado Valley ACEC.
• Coyote Springs ACEC, plus adjacent lands as proposed by the The Nature Conservancy

...The Gold Butte ACEC is preliminarily recommended as the best recipient location for regional mitigation from the DryLake SEZ.

The resource values found in the Gold Butte ACEC are threatened by: unauthorized activities, including off-road vehicle use, illegal dumping, and trespass livestock grazing; wildfire; and weed infestation.

Section 2.8 (p 35,36) of Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone report (linked above).

(2) In August 2012, the BLM initiated the pilot Dry Lake SEZ Solar Regional Mitigation Planning Project, which constitutes the first SRMS developed for an SEZ. The Dry Lake SEZ SRMS originated simultaneously with, and served as a pilot test case for, the establishment of BLM guidance for developing SRMSs for other SEZs (BLM forthcoming).

Section 1.3 (p 10) of Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone report

(3) Currently, mitigation plans are developed on a case-by-case basis. Each plan applies and tailors the ‘avoid and minimize’ strategy to the specific site and the proposed facility. Where off-site mitigation is stipulated, the BLM generally provides solar developers with off-site mitigation objectives. The developers then develop a proposals for consideration by the BLM (which may involve acquiring preliminary agreements with private land owners). If the BLM finds a proposal sufficient, it is approved. If not, the developer goes ‘back to the drawing board’ to try again. Going round-and-round with proposals and rejections is a source of frustration for solar developers. Under the SRMP approach, the BLM will execute a collaborative process to:
1.Identify the unavoidable adverse impacts that will be mitigated off-site
2.Establish quantifiable off-site and/or regional mitigation objectives

...

(Answer to Question 4, p 2) SRMP FAQ accompanying Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone report.




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Why does the Federal Government

spend more money trying to COLLECT grazing fees than the amount of the fees?

To finance this operation the National debt will increase placing the repayment burden on our children and grandchildren.

I like turtles too, but I love my kids.

Also my dog eats horse poop whenever he gets a chance. The chickens love to tear up the piles to look for bugs.

It makes sense that turtles will find some nutrition in cow poop.

If only we could find some value in the BULL%$^&# these politicians spread around.

Mr.Deleted has a good post, wanted to bump:

Regarding the tortoises food supply:

"They [the tortoises] could excrete the potassium in their urine as other
animals do, but urinating would have left them dehydrated.
Tortoises urinate only when they have water to drink.
They could have converted the potassium to an insoluble
form and excreted itin their scats. This requires nitrogen,
which would have had to come from catabolizing their
own tissues (Nagy and Medica 1986).
This stress could be relieved if these tortoises had
access to their natural food source, cow dung. Fresh cow
dung is 85 to 90 percent water. Bees and butterflies drink
from fresh cow pies. Cow dung could also supply the high
quality protein tortoises require.
The excess potassium
came from consuming plant material high in potassium
but low in other nutrients."

https://journals.uair.arizona.edu/index.php/rangelands/artic...

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

symbiosis amongst the herbivores!

"Coprophagy is generally rare in reptiles. "Frye (1991) reports it in some tortoises, such as the sulcata (Geochelone sulcata) and desert tortoises (Gopherus agassizii and G. Berlandieri).."
http://www.anapsid.org/coproph.html

"Reptile herbivores like desert tortoises eat the dung for easy calories and B vitamins."
http://www.rangemagazine.com/features/winter-05/cowpie.shtml

that's interesting, if true

Can anyone provide any confirmation of this, other than this one article in a ranging journal? I could not find any other sources for this.

“With laws shall our land be built up, but with lawlessness laid waste.”
-Njal Thorgeirsson

If you clicked on his link,

and scrolled all the way down, you'll find the citations.

Nagy, Kenneth A., and Philip A. Medica. 1986. Physiological ecology of desert tortoises in southern Nevada. Herpetologica 42(1)73-92.

Give that a try, Sir Ed.

After you're done reading that, join me for some coffee and a blunt.

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

You would have a great scoop if you only...

This would be a great story if it were not speculation!

It seems the best solution to your question is to go back and re-write your thesis, but include footnotes, quotes and copies, of and to all the sources which support this line of reasoning. I do not doubt this is a potential strategy on the part of corrupt oath breakers, or that each and every step of the way as you have described this could be a truthful relation of fact!

If you can produce the meat rather than an outline of suspicion, you would deserve a 'Pulitzer' from the grassroots battalions!

There's more here than mere

There's more here than mere speculation (see updated post with footnotes), but admittedly, connecting the dots will take someone with access to the principals to ask questions.

Never trouble trouble til trouble troubles you. Fortune Cookie

meekandmild's picture

The first question should be: Who owns the land?

Does Clark county Nv own the land; Does the people of Clark county own the land; Does the state of NV own the public land; Does the people of NV own the public land; Does BLM or other Federal agency own the public land; Does "we the people" own the public land?

This is a good find, Deleted...

Third page, paragraph 4 and 5:

"They [the tortoises] could excrete the potassium in their urine as other
animals do, but urinating would have left them dehydrated.
Tortoises urinate only when they have water to drink.
They could have converted the potassium to an insoluble
form and excreted itin their scats. This requires nitrogen,
which would have had to come from catabolizing their
own tissues (Nagy and Medica 1986).
This stress could be relieved if these tortoises had
access to their natural food source, cow dung. Fresh cow
dung is 85 to 90 percent water. Bees and butterflies drink
from fresh cow pies. Cow dung could also supply the high
quality protein tortoises require.
The excess potassium
came from consuming plant material high in potassium
but low in other nutrients."

https://journals.uair.arizona.edu/index.php/rangelands/artic...

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

Great questions

Do you know about "the world's largest solar power farm" in California near the Nevada border? 5 square miles of cleared land. How many tortoise died building it? How many birds will die from it?

Some info... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2560494/Worlds-large...

Interesting how the tortoise (as well as the birds and everything else trying to live out there) aren't so important when it comes to "saving the environment".

The Bundy siege is about tortoises as... the Iraq war was about WMDs.

ecorob's picture

Seems a bit illegal.

Maybe, a LOT illegal!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

There is a saying

It is only illegal if you get caught.

First Corollary : This illegality is mitigated if you are in charge.
Second Corollary : This illegality can be passed on via new rules made up by the person in charge

Boss Hogg Democrats taking corruption to new lows

Arrest Senator Harry Reid and Lawyer Rory Reid !!!

Just wait till it's the reps doing it in 3 more years.

Are we seriously going to call this a dem "thing".

Last I checked the repugs haven't done anything. It took most of them long enough to figure out what was going on.

I almost hope the RNC steals this election again so you guys can learn. AGAIN.

Government isn't a calf to wrestle it's a bull that will kill everything until it's put down. You can pretend it isn't all you want but that won't patch the horn wound running through your heart and down to your wallet.

amen brother - all point well

amen brother - all point well said!

peAce

Liberty = Responsibility