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How to Deal with a Bully According to a Nebraska Elementary School

Fifth grade students at Zeman Elementary School in Lincoln, Neb., were recently sent home with a “flyer” outlining how they should handle bullies. The instructions were apparently deemed so ridiculous by parents that the school district quickly issued an apology and the “inaccurate information” was pulled.

That was after the nine “rules” for dealing with bullies went viral, of course.

Here are some of the more questionable ones:

• Rule #3 Do not be afraid.
• Rule #4: Do not verbally defend yourself.
• Rule #7: Do not tell on bullies.
• Rule #8: Don’t be a sore loser
• Rule #9: Learn to laugh at yourself and not get “hooked” by put-downs.

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It was open season on bullies

For me when I was growing up. Got the crap kicked out of me when I was 6. Tried to fight back, but WTF I was 6. This douche must have been 9 or 10. Still remember it to this day.

After that, I was a scheming little bastard to them, probably made some their lives a living hell. I admit that I would often incite bullies once I identified them. I always enjoyed the hunt. I don't regret it.

The biggest bully I ever met is government. Probably why I detest it so much.

They forgot Joe Biden's wise advice

"..pee your pants." If it makes a rapist stop raping someone, surely bullies would not bully you once you pee in your pants. Right?

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The essential problem: Children play differently than adults

Here's the essential problem with these rules: Children play differently than adults.

These dumb rules were made by adults, with adult situations and solutions in mind. Children are ENTIRELY different creatures than grown-ups, much as we try to think otherwise.

There is nothing rational in a child's existence. This is because a child's life is far more physical than mental. Physical play dominates a child's existence up to and into the teen years.

That's why physical lessons like spanking teach small children more effectively than rational discussions -- and why rewards like hugs are more valuable than words of praise.

Because of this, dealing with bullies is best done on a physical level, through active resistance.

Maturity will gradually supplant emotionalism and irrationality -- under good tutelage, of course.

Some grown men never get over schoolyard brawling, but that's likely because their parents were never around for them, and they remain emotionally and mentally underdeveloped. But that's another story.

"Cowards & idiots can come along for the ride but they gotta sit in the back seat!"

Not so sure about your assertion

that children are irrational.

I suspect that your spankings are an indication that your "adult rationality" is no more than a big kid acting emotionally.

For starters, what is the actual difference between play and work?
A salary? Emotional response? (What you love is play.) Age? Perceived value of the action? (Building a house vs. making a mud pie.)

I find children to be very sophisticated entities from day one.

"sophistication" is relative; & THE PRISON FACTOR in schools

Well, you're helping my position: "sophistication" is a relative matter, after all. The way I see it, adults who imagine children are mentally developed enough to be rational must themselves be less than fully developed mentally. (Not to cast dispersions in your direction.)

Its just that child physiology is totally different than an adult's, and so is their awareness and perception. I can't help but notice that every time my kids knock over their glass of milk or put their elbow in a blob of ice cream.

Also, I neglected to mention the PRISON FACTOR for adolescents: public school is little different than a prison, in that the children are trapped there and must suffer the same hierarchical system of control as in a prison. In this case, the warden [principal], the block officer [teacher], and the kapo [bully]. Like the tough prisoners who shake down the weaker ones for cigarettes and sex, the bully is an agent of control in the school system.

Teachers do not want to be bothered with discipline and conflict resolution. From my experience, they much prefer if the bully solves the conflict through direct suppression, than to interfere in the students' squabbles.

In that situation, physical resistance to the bully is necessary, even though the adolescents are more fully developed mentally and emotionally to find rational solutions to their disputes.

"Cowards & idiots can come along for the ride but they gotta sit in the back seat!"

I think Ayn Rand

Explains it well and Dr Paul would agree.

Whatever may be open to disagreement, there is one act of evil that may not, the act that no man may commit against others and no man may sanction or forgive. So long as men desire to live together, no man may initiate—do you hear me? no man may start—the use of physical force against others.

“To interpose the threat of physical destruction between a man and his perception of reality, is to negate and paralyze his means of survival; to force him to act against his own judgment, is like forcing him to act against his own sight. Whoever, to whatever purpose or extent, initiates the use of force, is a killer acting on the premise of death in a manner wider than murder: the premise of destroying man's capacity to live.

“Do not open your mouth to tell me that your mind has convinced you of your right to force my mind. Force and mind are opposites; morality ends where a gun begins. When you declare that men are irrational animals and propose to treat them as such, you define thereby your own character and can no longer claim the sanction of reason—as no advocate of contradictions can claim it. There can be no ‘right’ to destroy the source of rights, the only means of judging right and wrong: the mind.

“To force a man to drop his own mind and to accept your will as a substitute, with a gun in place of a syllogism, with terror in place of proof, and death as the final argument—is to attempt to exist in defiance of reality. Reality demands of man that he act for his own rational interest; your gun demands of him that he act against it. Reality threatens man with death if he does not act on his rational judgment; you threaten him with death if he does. You place him in a world where the price of his life is the surrender of all the virtues required by life—and death by a process of gradual destruction is all that you and your system will achieve, when death is made to be the ruling power, the winning argument in a society of men.

“Be it a highwayman who confronts a traveler with the ultimatum: ‘Your money or your life,’ or a politician who confronts a country with the ultimatum: ‘Your children’s education or your life,’ the meaning of that ultimatum is: ‘Your mind or your life’—and neither is possible to man without the other.

“If there are degrees of evil, it is hard to say who is the more contemptible: the brute who assumes the right to force the mind of others or the moral degenerate who grants to others the right to force his mind. That is the moral absolute one does not leave open to debate. I do not grant the terms of reason to men who propose to deprive me of reason. I do not enter discussions with neighbors who think they can forbid me to think. I do not place my moral sanction upon a murderer's wish to kill me. When a man attempts to deal with me by force, I answer him—by force.

“It is only as retaliation that force may be used and only against the man who starts its use. No, I do not share his evil or sink to his concept of morality: I merely grant him his choice, destruction, the only destruction he had the right to choose: his own. He uses force to seize a value; I use it only to destroy destruction. A holdup man seeks to gain wealth by killing me; I do not grow richer by killing a holdup man. I seek no values by means of evil, nor do I surrender my values to evil.

Bullies should be ridiculed.

Bullies should be ridiculed. If it could be done verbally, then it would happen, but they're given a gift of being able to improvise with words. Their weapon is ridicule, so if they get beaten up, they are the ridiculed ones. I wouldn't even call defending yourself with force violence. Violence has a specific intent. People need to stop whining about bullying and also get their kids off of the electronics. Why the hell does anyone under 16 need a cell phone? Why are parents letting their toddlers play with tablets?

Please come join my forum if you're not a trendy and agree with my points of view.

Where's the compassion?

There was another post recently about bullying on the Daily Paul and the lack of compassion for those who are and have been bullied is so sad.

This short interview is with a man who was born without arms and legs.
He travels all over and shares with the hurting.

How to stand strong against bullying
http://video.foxnews.com/v/3475510976001/how-to-stand-strong...

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50% of suicides in Britain, why?

BULLYING. Deal with bullies by taking away their thunderdome. Fighting someone that doesn't care for human life is like voting for rand for freedom.

http://www.bullyingstatistics.org/content/bullying-and-suici...

Double

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If hitting a bully

Is the anything that will stop them, than what does that make you ? How do you plan on solving muslim extremism ? Let me guess we need to kill them first.

Please downvote me if being violent and hurting children is your end goal. Please downvote me if you're so broke you send your kid to the thunderdome instead of getting off your ass to send him somewhere he won't get attacked.

Funny that most adults wouldn't put up with it but hell if it's your kid -- let him deal with it. And when/he she kills themself -- well they were pussies -- and who gives a fuck.

Good thing she beat up her bully. It was too bad she couldn't fight off the other 15. What a weak ass child -- good thing she's dead. We cannot have weaklings like this in the good ol USA.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/10/16/florida-girl-showed-tot...

As per usual.

Downvotes rather than anything closely resembling a reason. Maybe someone should beat you fucks up everyday so you can go home and then be beat on by your dad. And then have people say "oh you should of fought back". Fucking talk that's all. I hope to god you have enough sense one day to figure out molestation isn't love as fighting isn't defense.

Telling your kid to fight instead of solving his problems will only lead them to a criminal life or to bring forth the next bully and his friends.

It's not like I don't have a father that is a bully and still is. Bullies by definition do not care about feelings and much less if you put up a challenge. They will count the days till they get you back and they will. (it's like saying making video games hard will make people stop playing them -- are you fucking retarded?)

Think about Ron Paul and the Republicans -- no wonder so many people here don't want to fight them. They are one in the same, they are just made it isn't them in power. It's pretty fucking sad.

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You are warped.

You have a different "sense" of reality because of your poor upbringing. I am sorry for you for that.

Now, you are grown up, right?

Can you get over it and get on with the important part of your life or will you lean on this past and continue to be a victim?

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Enabler

Says it best.
Sticking up for yourself in a right of all men.
Telling your kids to defend themselves,trains them in how to deal with real life situations. You way leads to more bullying,and more beatings
Your read sounds like you'd stand there and watch someone else violate either you or your loved ones.

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

Sorry,

I'm more of a kick'em in the nuts, followed by a severe waling kind of guy.

And when

His friends beat your ass? What? Pretend it isn't happening. Do you not realize violence begets violence.

Sorry my friend

but there is a time for everything, even and especially violence. I learned to deal with bullies at an early age. The first time a supposed bully came up and picked on me it was either a kick in the nuts or a punch in the throat, followed by the proper beating, depending on how the initial kick or punch affected them. If they bent down after the kick in the nuts, it was an instant hark kick to the face. If the punch to the throat made them grab their throat ( which is 90% of the case), then they either got a kick in the nuts or a proper throw down to the ground. NEVER had any problems with bullies after the first meeting. I will not be trampled upon, and neither will my children. BTW, I have friends too, AND I've managed to live this long.

This is for real

I was thinking it was a joke or thought-provoking blog that went viral under the story of it being given to children. No, this was given to children.

The parents are quite upset.

https://www.facebook.com/lincolnpublicschools/posts/10152004...

There's some attempt to figure out if this material orginated with this program

http://brooksgibbs.com/programs.php

but that's speculation at this point.

The school is refusing to admit who gave the information to the kids and the parents want to know and want that person fired. It could be quite a spectacle once the parents encounter their powerlessness to act as employers in this.

Defend Liberty!

Effeminate men are a goal of liberalism.

And this " policy " , abhorrent to its core is part and parcel of this agenda.

My boys, all grown men now, would not have fit this mold as both delt with their bullies as per my advice. Which was simply this " knock them out ".
It worked for me. Chuck wagon, the sawed off schools bully eventually got around to me by approaching me one day after lunch with his posse. Chuck reached into my pocket and took out my pencil which he promptly snapped in two, the next thing he remembered is getting up off the floor as I instantaneousy just leveled him with a hard right hook.

After that whenever chuck saw me coming down the hall towards him, he'd quickly move out of my way. The only downside of the whole thing was how all the other strong boys ( Jocks ) wanted to suddenly box me in gym class. They did not understand that I naturally abhore violence, not because defending myself is bad, but because I knew that my natural strength could seriously hurt another person and I didn't want to ever do that as I recieved plenty of hurt myself from a father who had to discipline me for my other bad behaviors quite often. I have long thought ( and secretly thanked ) my dad for knocking the knock out out of me.

Instigating violence is never righteous, defending oneself or ones loved ones can be.

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Burt Squirt Lost His Dirt

My brother, Burt, in probably 2nd grade, came home one day, very upset, because the kids were chanting, "Burt squirt, lost his dirt" the way playground poets like to do.

Of course, the more upset he got, the more they enjoyed it.

My Dad and he sat at the dinner table and worked out what he should do about it.

The next day, when someone said, "Burt squirt, lost his dirt," my brother replied, "And now he's very clean. And if you don't stop saying that, he may get very mean."

Burt reported at dinner that he only had to use the line a couple of times before they lost interest.

Magic words? Or magic attitude? Most of those rules above really work. In my brother's case, the words weren't so much to defend himself, as to change his attitude and body language so that he was not seen as a victim.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

Playground Poets, lol....

One I used to get: Maria-peppia goes diarrhea in her tortilla.

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The rules work

in some situations. Mainly, when the bully was mistaken about whether a power imbalance existed. When the bully is correct that a power imbalance exists, they do not work and the expectation to keep trying them prolongs the situation and causes more damage.

Defend Liberty!

These Rules Will Work

Take it from me, eldest of four kids, and I never had a problem maintaining order (chief babysitter) as long as I stayed cool.

I was never bullied in school. I don't even remember anyone attempting it, but I imagine if they teased me or challenged me, I ignored them or responded calmly. I didn't get sucked in, and they went on to look for another victim.

I've been watching a lot of Dog Whisperer, too. He does the same: calm assertive. No talk, no touch, no eye contact. It totally works to be a mature adult by not getting scared, not getting mad, not yelling, not running, not acting a victim.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

Nice conjecture....

But you admit you were never bullied and nobody even attempted it. So this is what you imagine you would do.

If I get tired of walking, I'd like to imagine I could fly.

Think it will work?

Well this is bullshit

this essentially tells the child to take the abuse and like it.

Tell your child this:

If someone physically harms you, you report them for assault.

If someone spreads lies about you, you get them for slander.

If someone spreads lies about you via social media, get them for libel.

End of story. If an adult was doing this to an adult, no one would think twice about reporting it to the police, so why should children?

I was picked on by bullies every day as a high school freshman.

The juniors had their lockers next to the freshmen and it was nearly inevitable that I would be shoved into lockers after having had my books thrown all over the floor.

One day I had absolutely had it. Jerry a big high school football lineman tossed my books one more time than I could take. I jumped up and encircled his neck with my right arm so I was in control as he was bent over and we faced the same direction, and I rammed his head into the lockers. He fell down.

Then in a big hurry I figured I better get the hell out of there. When my brother, also a junior, got home he just said "Wow, I heard you beat the hell out of Jerry _______. The whole school is taking about it!"

Never got picked on in the same way again. And I got the respect and eventual friendship with Jerry.

Let's Call em "Nine Rules for Becoming an Easy Mark!"

Let's Call em "Nine Rules for Becoming an Easy Mark!" Sheeatt!

RULE #3 is the ONLY good one. "Do Not be afraid." Yes. That implies resistance to the bully. I'm shocked its on that list.

Rule #6 implies that bullies have a sense of humanity, that seeing their victim in pain will cause them distress. BULL! That's what they live for. Actually, adapting #6 into "Hysterical fits and screams" is a technique I successfully used when I was six or seven to avoid more than one beatdown. The bullies got so scared of my hysterics, they ran before a teacher or adult could find them. Didn't work when I was 12, because I'd be too ashamed to carry on like that.

Rule #9, "How to crack jokes in the face of a beatdown" is only possible after years of beatdowns. Its called FAST-TALKING, and I adopted it through trial and error to get out of some serious sticky situations.

Where's my mother's rule? Not here. Let's call it Rule #10: "Just Ignore Them." What she forgot to tell me, is that Rule #10 tells the bullies they can get away with their bullying.

No, the only way to deal with bullies is to resist. Making things difficult for them takes away the fun. They'll look for easier marks. I wish I'd been taught that at an early age. Would've saved me a lot of childhood depression.

"Cowards & idiots can come along for the ride but they gotta sit in the back seat!"

It looks like it was written

It looks like it was written by bullies.

LoL really...

That's a "nice" brochure...

Too bad it isn't legal, thus, a waste of paper and someone's time.

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

Spit and run...

lie in wait with stick or bat...
sneak attack...
no more bullying...

Works every time.

Wha? .....hey....who stole my country?