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The Encroaching Police State: a photo from my local Post Office

Today I entered my local Post Office to retrieve a gift from my mother.

I was asked to show ID, whereupon I passed along my Driver's License.

Then I was asked to sign my name digitally into an electronic scanning machine. Although a bit perturbed, I did so and expected to be done with business.

Then I was asked to write my address digitally into the same electronic machine. At this point I queried the clerk whether this system was new. She said, "Yes". I subsequently explained my reluctance to forward information into their system, in light of abuses with NSA surveillance etc.

As might be expected, I heard "I just work here."

I further disclaimed any personal vendetta, however I protested the climate of suspicion and invasive bureaucracy.

The woman empathized, although there was a coercive element of 'sign or you don't get your property'.

After I received my mail, she then notified me of a (new-to-me) sign on the window which said, 'Effective _date_, all credit card and debit card transactions require proper identification'
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Believing that it's no corporation's or agency's business to know about my cross-related information, I could see how the state of fascist fusion is gradually increasing.

It's usually a tense moment when the public protests and this occasion was no exception, however I couldn't help but feel that others do agree with my point about this issue

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use just cash and private carriers. What's interesting is that the private carriers will extract and store as much info or more. It is not so much an issue of the police state or government as it is the lack of any public demand for privacy, whether from the government or private companies.


is anyone going to point out that this sign is nearly 1 year old?

Hold Up

No it is absolutely not normal procedure for a post office. This is new. Since when does a debit card require identification? That is what a DEBIT card is, just a PIN. I go to the grocery store and 7-11 all the time with only my debit card. I do it so I don't have to bring my whole wallet with me, as long as I have my PIN, never been a problem.

If this is a new trend or law beginning to show its true colors through government agencies, I am scared. Forget that.

Your Story Seems to be Centered Around Use of a Debt Instrument

First of all, why did you have to pay to pick up your mother's gift? She should have paid for the service of using the post office when she presented it for shipment. Your obligation was simply to identify yourself using acceptable identification (e.g., drivers license). You should not have been required to sign anything to take possession of it if your mother identified you by name as the sole recipient of the package.

The fact you mentioned the postal worker pointed to a procedure for debt instrument verification implies to me you had to (a) pay for something and (b) chose to use something other than currency to make a purchase.

Is it possible your story left out you bought something from the post office (e.g., postage stamps) and paid for it using a credit or debit card? If so, the post office procedure is valid.


per any confusion; duly edited: I didn't have to pay for the gift, and the Transaction notice is a separate function