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Chemtrails Debunked

Welcome Friends!

The purpose of this thread is to debunk (1) the myth that dark entities are openly, actively and intentionally spraying toxic chemicals "chemtrails" in the skies with the intention of poisoning humanity and the earth. (2) the idea that contrails dissipate quickly and cannot persist (3) the belief that the white streaks we see spanning from horizon to horizon are chemtrails (4) And other false ideas about geo engineering.

I know this is a touchy subject with many of you, as it should be. I admire your passion and your willingness to defend your fellow man by exposing what you believe to be the biggest crime ever committed against humanity.

As a former believer in chemtrails I feel a moral obligation to share the knowledge and information that was influential in changing my mind about the subject.

I feel like the charlatans who sold me this lie stole something from me. After much research and contemplation I was able to look through the haze and see the sunlight of truth shining in.

I hope you enjoy the videos and dialogue.


http://youtu.be/zOXt0BTOTN0

Founder of California Skywatch, says
"I don't have the documentation, I dont have a single study, I don't have a single solitary evidence" that jets are releasing chemicals on the unsuspecting populace.

One of the main people who started all this nonsense says that she can't find a single shred of evidence that supports the notion that the contrails we see in the sky are really nothing more than condensation trails.

Joe Rogan Interviews Michael Murphy of What in the World are They Spraying


http://youtu.be/4l9XucJXosE

Miles Muzio
Chief Meteorologist
KBAK-TV
CBS 29 News
Bakersfield California

"This is an ongoing controversy with some people who insist a malevolent conspiracy is subliminally gassing Americans. I have found no credible evidence of this."


http://youtu.be/Cr25giCYKhA

AIR FORCE WHISTEBLOWER KRISTIN MEGHAN ADMITS:

"My whistleblowing is not related to chemtrails, it is related to industrial ground activities that overexposed the workers and they didn't want it reported, and since I took the samples, they wanted to demonize me in case I spoke out.

It is going through what I did as a whistleblower than led to my activism. Chemtrails and the TSA are my biggest topics I am linked to." https://www.metabunk.org/threads/kristen-meghan-former-us-ai...

CHEMTRAILS VS CONTRAILS

In this video we get to see Alex Jones spread disinfo about chemtrails.


http://youtu.be/Y97OK6qEIz0

Cloud Seeding Explained


http://youtu.be/Sn5g4Gt_EJw

FAQS ABOUT CLOUD SEEDING FROM SOUTH TEXAS WEATHER MODIFICATION

http://southtexasweathermodification.com/faq.html

12. Is there any link between cloud seeding and chemtrails?

No. STWMA, along with the WMA, is unaware of any connection between cloud seeding as is practiced by our program and to what some refer to as “chemtrails” (chemical trails). Atmospheric scientists even dispute the existence of “chemtrails”. What some chose to call chemtrails are actually “contrails” (condensed engine exhaust trails), which are well-understood atmospheric phenomena. Contrails are defined as “streaks of condensed water vapor created by an airplane or rocket at high altitudes.” These condensation trails are the result of normal emissions of water vapor, carbon dioxide, and some carbon-containing particulates from piston engines and jet engines at high altitudes in which, given the right atmospheric conditions, the water vapor condenses into a visible cloud. Actually, due to the very cold temperatures at high altitudes, the water droplets that initially form this cloud rapidly freeze, forming an ice cloud similar to naturally occurring cirrus clouds. Under certain conditions contrails can merge or contribute to the development of a larger area of cirrus clouds. Contrails are normally observed on otherwise clear days, when cloud seeding would not be conducted. The cloud seeding nuclei from ground or airborne sources do not produce such visible. ..

If you are serious about learning and finding the truth, you could start at
WWw.contrailscience.org or https://www.metabunk.org/forums/contrails-and-chemtrails.9/

Did you know there are over 87,000 flights a day in the United States?

This is a simulation of those flights.


http://youtu.be/d9r3H4iHFZk

AIRCRAFT CONTRAILS FACTSHEET from the EPA

http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/policy_guidance/envi...

FORMATION, PROPERTIES AND CLIMATIC EFFECTS OF CONTRAILS

http://aero-net.info/fileadmin/aeronet_files/links/documents...

CONTRAIL FORMATION AND IMPACTS ON AEROSOL PROPERTIES IN AIRCRAFT PLUMES: EFFECTS OF FUEL SULFUR CONTENT

http://www.albany.edu/~yfq/papers/YuTurcoContrail97GL03695.pdf

Near-field measurements on contrail properties from fuels with different sulfur content

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/97JD02209/abstract

ABSTRACT: Microphysical properties of jet exhaust aerosol and contrails were studied in the near field of the emitting aircraft for different fuel sulfur contents. Measurements were performed behind two different aircraft (ATTAS test aircraft of type VFW 614 and Airbus A310-300) using fuels with sulfur contents of 6 ppm and 2700 ppm, respectively. At closest approach (plume age < 1 s), the total number concentrations exceeded the measuring range of the condensation particle counter, i.e., N>105 cm−3. The concentration of the dry accumulation mode aerosol, i.e., predominantly soot particles, was not affected by the fuel sulfur content. At a plume age of 10 s, an increase in total number concentration (Dp>0.01 µm) by a factor of 3.5 in the high sulfur case compared to the low sulfur case was observed. The ultrafine condensation nuclei fraction (0.007 µm http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/95GL01312/abstract

Links to studies on Jet Fuel Exhaust

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12580487/

http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/abs/10.1139/cjr50a-035

http://www.astm.org/DIGITAL_LIBRARY/JOURNALS/TESTEVAL/PAGES/...

This image monitors atmospheric conditions that are consistent with contrail formation.

There are also plenty of people here on the DP to help. Once you find out that you have been duped, you begin to see who the real enemy is: Those who spread lies and fear and paranoia.

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I Don't Know....

What you are suffering from, but I certainly hope you get better. The helpless in delirium....whether you believe in chem trails or you don't!

Henny Penny and "The Sky is Falling". We shall see, maybe it is maybe it isn't!

Thank you.

I hope I get better too.

I am continually striving to better myself.

Your sincere words mean so much to me.

God Bless you.

"I'm Ron Paul." - Ron Paul

More nonsense

"These ‘hard science’ PhD types have often been exposed to years of intense and purposeful indoctrination."

It's called getting an education.

I hear it's highly recommended.

"I'm Ron Paul." - Ron Paul

Everyone gets education

everyday.

I think 'indoctrination' is accurate:
a: upskill, teach, train, educate, initiate, coach, lecture, ground, tutor, instruct
b: to teach someone a set of beliefs so thoroughly that they do not accept any other ideas

self edit

deleted, wrong placement

I stopped at how humans make rain

Clouds cannot be created by humans no matter what you think and what you have been told. Maybe in a lab but nothing more. Clouds are created by waves of solar rays from the sun. The end. Even the global warming folks cannot handle this one piece of information.

Jet contrails can cause

Jet contrails can cause clouds and they do every day right over my house. They are not "chemtrails."

Ignorance and Stupidity

The vast majority, if not every person, who buys into the chem trails conspiracy is scientifically and mathematically illiterate. Now I can not demonstrate the former but I can demonstrate the later.
1. If it takes you more than 1 minute to figure this out then you are mathematically illiterate. "A bat and a ball cost $1.10 in total. The bat costs $1 more than the ball. How much does the ball cost?"

2. If you do not understand what the gausian integral is or why it is important and can not follow the proof, and do not know what e is and how it is derived and why it is important then you have no real understanding of one of the fundamental equations underlying almost all of statistical analysis, and while you may not be mathematically illiterate, you are in the same position to criticize any scientific observation as a ten year old chinese child would be to evaluate shakespear.

3. You also suffer from dunning kruger effect.
So take heart laundryhead. It is unfortunate that resistance to government and authority tends to attract very ignorant and stupid people. (Back in the day, most libertarians were smart. The primary occupation was software. Now we just seem to attract ignorant whack jobs. I suspect that there is a PhD paper there somewhere.) I do not know what to do about this problem.

" I do not know what to do about this problem."

Sure ya do. You're doing it now by helping expose the truth!!

"I'm Ron Paul." - Ron Paul

I'm stuck on #1, plz help...

At first the answer came as an instinct but then I forgot the 9.6% sales tax... Was that included in the $1.10? And could it have been purchased online as there could also be a variance in tax rate + delivery fees?

Yes, it should be simple; somehow they make it more difficult than it ought to be :)

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I believe there is more to it than...

the "dunning kruger effect". While that does seem to play a role, the response is not as what you would expect. A small degree of explanation should be enough to at least cause them to pause and say, "maybe I really haven't evaluated things properly", even if they were still unable to form their own conclusions on the matter.

That is an aspect of the "dunning kruger effect". Training may not increase proficiency, but should increase their awareness of their own incompetence.

I have seen that play out a million times in real life, and am not bothered by being required to give that extra detail/info. It actually takes relatively little effort in casual discussion to correct those perceptions.

But the behavior here, on this subject, goes well beyond that. To the point, that they post absolutely proven fabricated lies, refuse to acknowledge facts, and continue to repeat talking points, to the point of absurdity without discussing anything.

I am at a loss for an explanation. As an example SIERRAHPBT's link below.

The Philosophy Of Liberty -
http://www.thephilosophyofliberty.com/

That "source" is

That "source" is crap.

"Snowden shared decisive documents with The Internet Chronicle, but out of concern for national security, only his testimonial can be published. These documents contain references to scientists who would surely be targeted by foreign counterintelligence, and their knowledge is vital to short-term survival of the United States."

Ha! This is the weakest line of trolling I've read in a long, long time.

interesting

first i've heard of that.

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Follow the links to be amused...

It reads like a conspiracy theory version of The Onion. :)

People that will write wholly fabricated lies as if they were the truth with no internal doubt like those sites, truly fascinate me. I could guess at motives, but instead, I would just like to know what they believe their motivation is.

The Philosophy Of Liberty -
http://www.thephilosophyofliberty.com/

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lol...

No, he didn't.

Those "sources" are wholly fabricated including the reference to a "news" article claiming Snowden was murdered. Without any actual reference to any credible document or source.

Seriously.

The Philosophy Of Liberty -
http://www.thephilosophyofliberty.com/

Any one

who brings up Chemtrails is either a moron or a Government Agent trying to distract us from where they are really poisoning us at.

Now all the Government agents will make down my post. Corn balls

It's definitely a distraction

I'm working on putting the numbers together regarding how much money the chemtrail conspiracy salesman have made selling lies.

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I just want to know

that whenever I see the ones that "stay" in the sky, they are always in "X" patterns. You mean to tell me normal flights fly X patterns in the sky randomly?

This question has been addressed multiple times on this thread

If you can't find it let me know

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DHS Operation HAMP

You love posting videos

On my OPs.

Can you try posting something relevant or entertaining?

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wow

I try to give you some exposure, and this is how you treat me.

Are you shooting for 100?

I was happy with -1

Everything else has been a bonus.

(Contrail) "Icing" on the cake, so to speak.

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Geo-Engineering Class Action Lawsuit Begins!

What are you still doing here?

Your video is mistitled.

There is no class action lawsuit.

Aluminum is not the same as alumina.

"Activated alumina is a porous, granular substance that is used as a substrate for catalysts and as an adsorbent for removing water from gases and liquids."
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/17897/alumina

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alumina

synthetically produced aluminum oxide

so it can pass through the blood-brain barrier

So it can pass through the blood brain barrier?

Alumina, is that all I need to get my point through your thick skull?

"I'm Ron Paul." - Ron Paul