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Chemtrails Debunked

Welcome Friends!

The purpose of this thread is to debunk (1) the myth that dark entities are openly, actively and intentionally spraying toxic chemicals "chemtrails" in the skies with the intention of poisoning humanity and the earth. (2) the idea that contrails dissipate quickly and cannot persist (3) the belief that the white streaks we see spanning from horizon to horizon are chemtrails (4) And other false ideas about geo engineering.

I know this is a touchy subject with many of you, as it should be. I admire your passion and your willingness to defend your fellow man by exposing what you believe to be the biggest crime ever committed against humanity.

As a former believer in chemtrails I feel a moral obligation to share the knowledge and information that was influential in changing my mind about the subject.

I feel like the charlatans who sold me this lie stole something from me. After much research and contemplation I was able to look through the haze and see the sunlight of truth shining in.

I hope you enjoy the videos and dialogue.


http://youtu.be/zOXt0BTOTN0

Founder of California Skywatch, says
"I don't have the documentation, I dont have a single study, I don't have a single solitary evidence" that jets are releasing chemicals on the unsuspecting populace.

One of the main people who started all this nonsense says that she can't find a single shred of evidence that supports the notion that the contrails we see in the sky are really nothing more than condensation trails.

Joe Rogan Interviews Michael Murphy of What in the World are They Spraying


http://youtu.be/4l9XucJXosE

Miles Muzio
Chief Meteorologist
KBAK-TV
CBS 29 News
Bakersfield California

"This is an ongoing controversy with some people who insist a malevolent conspiracy is subliminally gassing Americans. I have found no credible evidence of this."


http://youtu.be/Cr25giCYKhA

AIR FORCE WHISTEBLOWER KRISTIN MEGHAN ADMITS:

"My whistleblowing is not related to chemtrails, it is related to industrial ground activities that overexposed the workers and they didn't want it reported, and since I took the samples, they wanted to demonize me in case I spoke out.

It is going through what I did as a whistleblower than led to my activism. Chemtrails and the TSA are my biggest topics I am linked to." https://www.metabunk.org/threads/kristen-meghan-former-us-ai...

CHEMTRAILS VS CONTRAILS

In this video we get to see Alex Jones spread disinfo about chemtrails.


http://youtu.be/Y97OK6qEIz0

Cloud Seeding Explained


http://youtu.be/Sn5g4Gt_EJw

FAQS ABOUT CLOUD SEEDING FROM SOUTH TEXAS WEATHER MODIFICATION

http://southtexasweathermodification.com/faq.html

12. Is there any link between cloud seeding and chemtrails?

No. STWMA, along with the WMA, is unaware of any connection between cloud seeding as is practiced by our program and to what some refer to as “chemtrails” (chemical trails). Atmospheric scientists even dispute the existence of “chemtrails”. What some chose to call chemtrails are actually “contrails” (condensed engine exhaust trails), which are well-understood atmospheric phenomena. Contrails are defined as “streaks of condensed water vapor created by an airplane or rocket at high altitudes.” These condensation trails are the result of normal emissions of water vapor, carbon dioxide, and some carbon-containing particulates from piston engines and jet engines at high altitudes in which, given the right atmospheric conditions, the water vapor condenses into a visible cloud. Actually, due to the very cold temperatures at high altitudes, the water droplets that initially form this cloud rapidly freeze, forming an ice cloud similar to naturally occurring cirrus clouds. Under certain conditions contrails can merge or contribute to the development of a larger area of cirrus clouds. Contrails are normally observed on otherwise clear days, when cloud seeding would not be conducted. The cloud seeding nuclei from ground or airborne sources do not produce such visible. ..

If you are serious about learning and finding the truth, you could start at
WWw.contrailscience.org or https://www.metabunk.org/forums/contrails-and-chemtrails.9/

Did you know there are over 87,000 flights a day in the United States?

This is a simulation of those flights.


http://youtu.be/d9r3H4iHFZk

AIRCRAFT CONTRAILS FACTSHEET from the EPA

http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/policy_guidance/envi...

FORMATION, PROPERTIES AND CLIMATIC EFFECTS OF CONTRAILS

http://aero-net.info/fileadmin/aeronet_files/links/documents...

CONTRAIL FORMATION AND IMPACTS ON AEROSOL PROPERTIES IN AIRCRAFT PLUMES: EFFECTS OF FUEL SULFUR CONTENT

http://www.albany.edu/~yfq/papers/YuTurcoContrail97GL03695.pdf

Near-field measurements on contrail properties from fuels with different sulfur content

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/97JD02209/abstract

ABSTRACT: Microphysical properties of jet exhaust aerosol and contrails were studied in the near field of the emitting aircraft for different fuel sulfur contents. Measurements were performed behind two different aircraft (ATTAS test aircraft of type VFW 614 and Airbus A310-300) using fuels with sulfur contents of 6 ppm and 2700 ppm, respectively. At closest approach (plume age < 1 s), the total number concentrations exceeded the measuring range of the condensation particle counter, i.e., N>105 cm−3. The concentration of the dry accumulation mode aerosol, i.e., predominantly soot particles, was not affected by the fuel sulfur content. At a plume age of 10 s, an increase in total number concentration (Dp>0.01 µm) by a factor of 3.5 in the high sulfur case compared to the low sulfur case was observed. The ultrafine condensation nuclei fraction (0.007 µm http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/95GL01312/abstract

Links to studies on Jet Fuel Exhaust

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12580487/

http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/abs/10.1139/cjr50a-035

http://www.astm.org/DIGITAL_LIBRARY/JOURNALS/TESTEVAL/PAGES/...

This image monitors atmospheric conditions that are consistent with contrail formation.

There are also plenty of people here on the DP to help. Once you find out that you have been duped, you begin to see who the real enemy is: Those who spread lies and fear and paranoia.

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So as a dis-info shill do you get paid per post or flat rate?

Challenge? Really?

You are closing your eyes to a situation you DO NOT wish to acknowledge. Probably because it is not in your financial interest to admit the possibilities of man-made aerosol spraying and weather manipulation. I just showed you in my last post that you logically cannot prove that there is not man-made spraying of aerosol particles going on (can't prove a negative) and with all of the voluminous posts to the contrary you are still a hardened denier.

Why don't you come clean about your affiliation with dis-info agents? It will be good for your soul. (and all of us here at the Daily Paul)

It can't be...can it?

Your primary argument is that

Your primary argument is that the other guy can't prove a negative. That's not very useful in a debate, is it?

The fact that you (and apparently many others) can't accept a very simple scientific explanation for observed phenomena bodes ill for the liberty movement as a whole...

Possibility 1: Jet fuel doesn't burn with 100% efficiency, thereby leaving aerosolized particles in the air around which water condenses. The resulting trail (which is almost entirely water vapor) then persists for varying amounts of time based on environmental conditions. Since for all intents and purposes it is a cloud, it behaves as a cloud in this way.

Possibility 2: Since all aircraft leave the same vapor trails as those in the U.S., every government on Earth must be running the same 'chemical spraying' program that the U.S. is. And every person in the world who works closely with jet-powered aircraft is aware of the spraying program but doesn't reveal evidence of it for some reason.

How, oh how, could you possibly think that possibility 2 is the correct one?

On the contrary, its very usefull to counter the absurd

You must be the one of the re-enforcements from "Con-Shills" headquarters. It is your ilk that deny the prima facia evidence in the skies and twist the testimony of whistle-blowers that give mounds of evidence that aerosol weather manipulation is not only a possibility but a real probability.

1- Answer: Whats in the bloody fuel anyway? This is a possible way to disperse aerosol particles. Then there is HAARP etc.(so it's not possible???)

2- Answer: Clearly there is a separate commercial flight program (possibly fuel additives) and then there is the covert (military) side to this - possibly spraying direct aerosols - lots of evidence in this post to suggest the probability is real. (whistle-blowers - strange flight patterns that defy commercial traffic)

To say this is not possible and maybe even probable defies all logic. It is intellectually dishonest to say that the above is absolutely NOT possible.

It can't be...can it?

I want to build a jelly bean house

Overlooking the ocean.

Is it possible? Is it probable?

"I'm Ron Paul." - Ron Paul

You never answered my question...

Do you get paid to shill per comment/post or do you get a flat rate? Also: Do "they" issue you a 1099 or do you get paid out of some black ops slush fund that doesn't have to be reported? Damn.. It just came to me... you probably don't even have to sign up for Obamacare either!!

It can't be...can it?

The pay is nominal

I only post articles like this to defer the cost of my membership here at the Daily Paul.

Obama pays me himself in cash.

I hope you understand.

"I'm Ron Paul." - Ron Paul

What?!

I'm still waiting on my check! They told me they just had to get the budget set first. Should be any day now.

Eric Hoffer

lol

These comments kill me. Rofl.

"I'm Ron Paul." - Ron Paul

You're arguing for something

You're arguing for something that you have no evidence of, and you're so consumed by it that anyone who doesn't believe in the thing you have no evidence for must have nefarious intent.

Well my intent is to prevent the Daily Paul from looking like fools who will believe anything they read online with no evidence to back it up. Though that goal seems pretty far out of reach at this point.

Look at it this way: does bringing up your "chemtrail hypothesis" without any evidence help your cause or hurt it? Will you garner popular support for further investigation, or look like a tin-foil hat wearing psycho?

I really hope you realize that it's not helping you, and it's making the Daily Paul look bad.

So...

The fact that you personally don't know what is in commercial jet fuel means that it's not only possible, but probable, that a conspiracy exists (which encompasses most/all world governments and most people involved with commercial aircraft) to spray insidious chemicals in the atmosphere.

Is it just fun for you to think up the most implausible idea you can, then promote it as being "physically possible" without any solid evidence?

How about you find a chemical engineer with Shell to provide documentation for illicit fuel additives in their jet fuel products? Or get similar testimony from an ASTM inspector (http://www.astm.org/) who tests aviation fuel for purity and safety.

No? Just going to keep making stuff up and saying "hey, it's possible", right? What a pathetic waste of intellect.

Thanks Common,

Sometimes I get a little lonely over here. It's usually just me and the trolls. I haven't asked for help on this thread, but many have contributed and I appreciate every bit of "common sense" that has been injected into this argument.

"I'm Ron Paul." - Ron Paul

Terrified...

Frankly, I'm terrified that this bastion of liberty and Constitutional thought seems to have thoroughly abandoned rationality on topics like this.

How can we convince our countrymen of the reason behind Constitutional Federalism when our members have abandoned reason itself?

Yeah

You're not the only one.

Eric Hoffer

No need to be scared friend

The truth will make itself manifest.

"I'm Ron Paul." - Ron Paul

Quit diverting

Yes,I presented you with a challenge.

Soli prove to me that you are not one of the Lizard People, noted chemtrailer David Icke warned me about.

Do lizard people have souls?

If they do, and you are one of them, you should come clean.

It would be good for all of us here at the Daily Paul.

"I'm Ron Paul." - Ron Paul

Thursday Night at The Movies

Why use logic when we have YouTube?

VR, can you state a premise? What are you afraid of?

I've already broken down the main points of contention in your other videos and exposed outright lies and deception.

What are your intentions here? Why have you posted so many videos and refused to debate me?

This is a place for discussion.

"I'm Ron Paul." - Ron Paul

Are you serious?

What are your intentions here?

Refused to debate you? Must've missed that invitation.

My premise is that you are a statist water carrier.

"Are you serious?"Yes. I am

"Are you serious?"

Yes. I am serious?

"What are your intentions here?"

To clear up misconceptions about geo engineering.

"Refused to debate you?"

Yes. Will you admit the video you posted was a hoax?

"My premise is that you are a statist water carrier."

This is not related to chemtrails. Please stay on point and try again.

"I'm Ron Paul." - Ron Paul

What are the misconceptions

about geo-engineering?

Thank you for asking

Let's start with this one.

"Contrails don't persist, linger and form clouds."

Can we agree that there are persistent Contrails?

"I'm Ron Paul." - Ron Paul

No

Contrails are not persistent:

: continuing beyond the usual, expected, or normal time : not stopping or going away

: continuing without change in function or structure

What is

The usual, expected or normal time? Does that mean that every contrail I see is really a chemtrail?

"I'm Ron Paul." - Ron Paul

There you go

again.

Not interested in dancing around the maypole with you.

Just seeking clarification

In case I'm wrong. If you can prove your case I will delete this post and start a new one titled

"Chemtrails Bunked"

"I'm Ron Paul." - Ron Paul

Bullshit

If you need clarification for a dictionary (Webster's) definition then you are desperately in need of more schooling.

Calm down buddy

Maybe you should take a couple of these and then we can have a conversation.

"I'm Ron Paul." - Ron Paul

You're repeating yourself

again.

I was referencing the other thread

Where you are much more amicable.

I'm disappointed in you VR.

In spite of all the evidence from BOTH sides of the argument showing that contrails can persist and form clouds, you are the only one who is still hanging on to the notion that they cant.

It takes a lot of intestinal fortitude to admit that you've been wrong, and sometimes it takes a long time to realize it.

I'm not here to feed my ego and say "i told you so" I'm here to help you break free from the chains of mental slavery.

"I'm Ron Paul." - Ron Paul

You are still bullshitting

You continue to say "overwhelming evidence", but we haven't seen anything overwhelming.

Could you be specific?