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Chemtrails Debunked

Welcome Friends!

The purpose of this thread is to debunk (1) the myth that dark entities are openly, actively and intentionally spraying toxic chemicals "chemtrails" in the skies with the intention of poisoning humanity and the earth. (2) the idea that contrails dissipate quickly and cannot persist (3) the belief that the white streaks we see spanning from horizon to horizon are chemtrails (4) And other false ideas about geo engineering.

I know this is a touchy subject with many of you, as it should be. I admire your passion and your willingness to defend your fellow man by exposing what you believe to be the biggest crime ever committed against humanity.

As a former believer in chemtrails I feel a moral obligation to share the knowledge and information that was influential in changing my mind about the subject.

I feel like the charlatans who sold me this lie stole something from me. After much research and contemplation I was able to look through the haze and see the sunlight of truth shining in.

I hope you enjoy the videos and dialogue.


http://youtu.be/zOXt0BTOTN0

Founder of California Skywatch, says
"I don't have the documentation, I dont have a single study, I don't have a single solitary evidence" that jets are releasing chemicals on the unsuspecting populace.

One of the main people who started all this nonsense says that she can't find a single shred of evidence that supports the notion that the contrails we see in the sky are really nothing more than condensation trails.

Joe Rogan Interviews Michael Murphy of What in the World are They Spraying


http://youtu.be/4l9XucJXosE

Miles Muzio
Chief Meteorologist
KBAK-TV
CBS 29 News
Bakersfield California

"This is an ongoing controversy with some people who insist a malevolent conspiracy is subliminally gassing Americans. I have found no credible evidence of this."


http://youtu.be/Cr25giCYKhA

AIR FORCE WHISTEBLOWER KRISTIN MEGHAN ADMITS:

"My whistleblowing is not related to chemtrails, it is related to industrial ground activities that overexposed the workers and they didn't want it reported, and since I took the samples, they wanted to demonize me in case I spoke out.

It is going through what I did as a whistleblower than led to my activism. Chemtrails and the TSA are my biggest topics I am linked to." https://www.metabunk.org/threads/kristen-meghan-former-us-ai...

CHEMTRAILS VS CONTRAILS

In this video we get to see Alex Jones spread disinfo about chemtrails.


http://youtu.be/Y97OK6qEIz0

Cloud Seeding Explained


http://youtu.be/Sn5g4Gt_EJw

FAQS ABOUT CLOUD SEEDING FROM SOUTH TEXAS WEATHER MODIFICATION

http://southtexasweathermodification.com/faq.html

12. Is there any link between cloud seeding and chemtrails?

No. STWMA, along with the WMA, is unaware of any connection between cloud seeding as is practiced by our program and to what some refer to as “chemtrails” (chemical trails). Atmospheric scientists even dispute the existence of “chemtrails”. What some chose to call chemtrails are actually “contrails” (condensed engine exhaust trails), which are well-understood atmospheric phenomena. Contrails are defined as “streaks of condensed water vapor created by an airplane or rocket at high altitudes.” These condensation trails are the result of normal emissions of water vapor, carbon dioxide, and some carbon-containing particulates from piston engines and jet engines at high altitudes in which, given the right atmospheric conditions, the water vapor condenses into a visible cloud. Actually, due to the very cold temperatures at high altitudes, the water droplets that initially form this cloud rapidly freeze, forming an ice cloud similar to naturally occurring cirrus clouds. Under certain conditions contrails can merge or contribute to the development of a larger area of cirrus clouds. Contrails are normally observed on otherwise clear days, when cloud seeding would not be conducted. The cloud seeding nuclei from ground or airborne sources do not produce such visible. ..

If you are serious about learning and finding the truth, you could start at
WWw.contrailscience.org or https://www.metabunk.org/forums/contrails-and-chemtrails.9/

Did you know there are over 87,000 flights a day in the United States?

This is a simulation of those flights.


http://youtu.be/d9r3H4iHFZk

AIRCRAFT CONTRAILS FACTSHEET from the EPA

http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/policy_guidance/envi...

FORMATION, PROPERTIES AND CLIMATIC EFFECTS OF CONTRAILS

http://aero-net.info/fileadmin/aeronet_files/links/documents...

CONTRAIL FORMATION AND IMPACTS ON AEROSOL PROPERTIES IN AIRCRAFT PLUMES: EFFECTS OF FUEL SULFUR CONTENT

http://www.albany.edu/~yfq/papers/YuTurcoContrail97GL03695.pdf

Near-field measurements on contrail properties from fuels with different sulfur content

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/97JD02209/abstract

ABSTRACT: Microphysical properties of jet exhaust aerosol and contrails were studied in the near field of the emitting aircraft for different fuel sulfur contents. Measurements were performed behind two different aircraft (ATTAS test aircraft of type VFW 614 and Airbus A310-300) using fuels with sulfur contents of 6 ppm and 2700 ppm, respectively. At closest approach (plume age < 1 s), the total number concentrations exceeded the measuring range of the condensation particle counter, i.e., N>105 cm−3. The concentration of the dry accumulation mode aerosol, i.e., predominantly soot particles, was not affected by the fuel sulfur content. At a plume age of 10 s, an increase in total number concentration (Dp>0.01 µm) by a factor of 3.5 in the high sulfur case compared to the low sulfur case was observed. The ultrafine condensation nuclei fraction (0.007 µm http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/95GL01312/abstract

Links to studies on Jet Fuel Exhaust

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12580487/

http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/abs/10.1139/cjr50a-035

http://www.astm.org/DIGITAL_LIBRARY/JOURNALS/TESTEVAL/PAGES/...

This image monitors atmospheric conditions that are consistent with contrail formation.

There are also plenty of people here on the DP to help. Once you find out that you have been duped, you begin to see who the real enemy is: Those who spread lies and fear and paranoia.

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You are correct

One of the methods of geoengineering is cloud seeding.

"I'm Ron Paul." - Ron Paul

AHHA! so you finally admit there are chemtrails!

Cloud seeding is CHEMTRAILS! Sewing chemicals in the skies so you can change the weather. You are just trying to whip us all up into a frenzy aren't you? Glad you finally admitted it :) With all that bluster about peer reviewed studies and all....you rascal!

It can't be...can it?

I already debunked that one genius.

CHEMTRAILS ARE NOT RELATED TO CLOUD SEEDING

CLOUD SEEDING DOES NOT PRODUCE CHEMTRAILS

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What is your definition of a Chemtrail?

Oxford Dictionary Defines “Chemtrail”

chemtrail – Syllabification: (chem·trail) – Pronunciation: /ˈkemˌtrāl/
Definition of chemtrail noun

” a visible trail left in the sky by an aircraft and believed by some to consist of chemical or biological agents released as part of a covert operation. “

Origin: 1990s: blend of chemical and trail, on the pattern of contrail (Source)

http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2013/03/31/confirmed-the-word-ch...

It can't be...can it?

Exactly...

...and that's what the "chem-trails" are...

So you get it now?

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

No Lawmanjed cloud seeding does not produce Chemtrails

Or contrails for that matter. Watch the videos, look at the links.

Here you go again:

12. Is there any link between cloud seeding and chemtrails?

No. STWMA, along with the WMA, is unaware of any connection between cloud seeding as is practiced by our program and to what some refer to as “chemtrails” (chemical trails). Contrails are normally observed on otherwise clear days, when cloud seeding would not be conducted. The cloud seeding nuclei from ground or airborne sources DO NOT PRODUCE such visible clouds.

The link to this info is in the comment above and the OP.

Cloud seeding does not produce Chemtrails. Look at how cloud seeding is done.

Does this make sense to you now? Look at the types of planes used for seeding and the elevation.

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Oh, no? How can you prove they don't? Answer the question...

...lol...

Your answer is this?

"STWMA, along with the WMA, is unaware of any connection between cloud seeding as is practiced by our program and to what some refer to as “chemtrails” (chemical trails)."

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

I posted this before...

On the thread " Does the Fed understand the economy?": That the Fed is so obsessed with weather (see http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-16/103-mentions-weathe...) is really strange. If you think about it, having the gov't intervene in the weather (geoengineering, HAARP, etc., anyone?) gives them something to blame instead of their own failed central planning. I mean, how many times did you hear the words "polar vortex" in the MSM this past winter. How about the new naming of winter storms? Totally contrived to distract. Edit: what about "climate change" or "climate hubs?"

Naming of winter storms was

Naming of winter storms was done by The Weather Channel.

NOAA/NWS had nothing to do with it, and they think it's a joke (at least the ones I've talked too)

Blah.

Hello Charles,

I hope you have found some of the info here to be useful.

"I'm Ron Paul." - Ron Paul

Yeah but...

You talk to NOAA/NWS people and they think it's a joke? Links please. Who owns the Weather Channel? Per Wikipedia: The Weather Channel is an American basic cable and satellite television channel that is owned as a joint venture between NBCUniversal, and investment firms The Blackstone Group and Bain Capital. Hmmm... no one there that might benefit from the FED or its propaganda... /sarc

Snowden - Chemtrails

This analysis is consistent...

With Dane Wiginton's analysis over at http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org.

Which is inconsistent

with logic and science.

"I'm Ron Paul." - Ron Paul

One thing I always watch for is the legal twist

In legal ease they say I examined the contrails it is easy to say truthfully if it does not have those chemicals in them.

Chem trails on the other might not be studied at all by those reporting agencies that way they are covered.

I watch around me when the fish and wild life tells me don't eat the fish because the water has to much mercury in it better take a water sample.

You can know the truth pretty easy there are records on the water in most areas that go back along time look at the chemicals in the water
in the 60s or 70s then compare them to now your county agent can do the water test or tell you where to have it done.

Good point.

But, There are many different agencies, companies, universities, etc., throughout the world that have studied this phenomena for nearly 100 years. The only people who still believe in the classic chemtail theory are those who haven't been exposed to the information or are unable to accept it.

You also make a good point about being in touch with the wildlife.

As for the soil, if the readings show significant differences, that doesn't necessarily mean that the changes were the result of aerial pollution from chemtrails.

I Hope the information posted here has been helpful.

"I'm Ron Paul." - Ron Paul

It seems to me

that if anyone here is an interested pilot then you could take air samples from inside the very trails that you want to investigate. Of course that wouldn't be cheap. Hell it might not even be possible with all of the air traffic regulation. Is there not anyone anywhere that has literally gone up in a small or large jet and tailed one of these dumping planes to take direct air samples? With almost a million flights a day I should think that someone would have taken that opportunity already. Or not...

Excellent Point

Actually, many studies and tests have been done. I posted a couple links in the OP. A simple Google search will reveal dozens of scientific papers on the subject.

However the information contained within these papers does not coincide with the illogical argument of chemtrails, so they are quickly dismissed, ignored and replaced with YouTube videos of clouds.

"I'm Ron Paul." - Ron Paul

Some questions:

1. If their stated goal is to spray the population, etc (for whatever reason) the engineers didn't meet the requirements. If you want to spray the population, you would want very wide coverage (~100+ miles) not some very narrow strip that doesn't seem to dissipate very quickly. Plus you'd probably want to spray outward from the wings to achieve more coverage/width. Think of a crop duster, they want to make as least passes as possible. Secondly, why not make the aerosol invisible while they're at it?

2. Where do I get a "fill-up" of Aluminum Barium or so called chemicals? Apparently, at the airport? Where's the tanker trucks and fill up stations? There are 87,000 flights a day (https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061207081929A...), that seems like a lot, so this seems very costly. Apparently, aluminum barium, etc must be in high demand.

3. Commercial airlines are under a lot of scrunity for security, safety, regulations, etc. and there is a lot of competition so they must keep prices down, so why would any (~100) company (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airlines_of_the_United...) risk an extremely large class-action lawsuit? Any ambulance chaser lawyer would be all over this. This would affect agriculture, animals, water supplies, natural wildlife, and the mass population, seems very risky to engage in such behavior. Are there any lawsuits?

4. What about international law? So any airline can spray over any country they want at any given time? Flights go all over the world, through many countries. This seems to violate international law. Have any countries ban this spraying? Do any countries openly support this spraying?

5. There are 2,100 architects and engineers who have signed petitions to open an investigation into 9/11, that seems like a lot. I don't even have 400+ FB friends let alone engineers who share the same beliefs. So, where are the chemtrail engineer's and mechanic's protests? Where are their petitions? Have any engineers or jet designers come forward with their concerns?

6. It's eugenics? Why not use a bioweapon or deadly virus, wars, famine, etc. that seems much easier?

It'd more believable described as a military program ONLY! The US has an airforce, thousands of planes, secret bases and top secret clearance. I've read they have used geoengineering/spraying during the Vietnam War to create rain. However, that was during WAR and over an enemy country, not to mention it only created rain. Remember some of the elites and Washinton DC have family and still live in America.

I like discussing these issues here at the DailyPaul, that's why I love this site. However, as you can see I'm skepical that all the commericial jetliners are involved in this one.

"Have an open mind ... but don't let your brain fall out".

Great Questions

Hopefully youll get some honest answers!

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Hey Laundrydude, I just wanted to thank you for this post.

I used to believe in chemtrails, mostly because I had never seen them in my 60 years of life until just several years ago. But, I don't believe in them anymore and here's why.

Last week I wanted some tea, so I put water in my kettle, set it on the oven and turned the fire on. I stepped outside to water the garden and forgot about my tea. I guess it was maybe 20 minutes or so when I remembered. I opened my back door and the kettle was screaming like a locomotive and the inside of my house was filled with clouds. I surmised that the water vapor (contrail) coming out of my teapot had formed clouds. It was really cool, I even had an ebt rainbow in my kids bedroom. Of course my first thought was, yeah water vapor (contrail) can really form clouds!! The clouds stayed in my house for about 6 hours and my little one was guessing the cloud shapes. It was a fun day for all, but even though I had witnessed the water vapor (contrail) from my teapot forming clouds, I was still a bit skeptical. But that all changed yesterday, and now I am totally convinced that "chemtrails" aren't real. I had been preparing for an internal inspection at work for a couple weeks and that was yesterday. I couldn't sleep the night before and about 4 am I just got up to get ready to go to the office and make some final preparations. I left the house just before 5 and it was pretty cold outside so I could see the exhaust (water vapor, see above) coming from the tailpipe. I traveled to work, oh about 14 miles, and when I got there and got out of my car, I could see a trail of clouds behind me, must have gone for at least 14 or so miles. I guessed that the exhaust (water vapor, see above) from my tailpipe had formed these awesome clouds following me and getting bigger and bigger. I had never seen this before and I've been driving for 40 years, but then again, it was colder than usual outside and I don't know maybe the humidity was higher than normal or something. It was just so cool. Tomorrow, I am getting up early again because I want to take a different route to work and try to make checker board and X patterns. To make those though, I have to figure out how to turn my exhaust on and off between my cloud lines. Any suggestions? Anyway, I just wanted to thank you for providing all the evidence that these so called chemtrails are just contrails (water vapor)and let you know that I back you up. Gosh, I just really hate stupid people that can't think for themselves and spout off like their more knowledgeable then the rest even when the evidence is clearly visible with their own eyes. You're the best, keep up the good work!!!

It's no wonder you are so confused

You spend more time babbling on about nonsense that actually looking at the studies from NASA, NOAA, the EPA, meteorologists, atmospheric scientists etc..that I have presented here.

If you have no evidence to submit, move along.

I usually enjoy sarcasm, even if it's directed at me, but you wasted all that time writing something that's not even funny.

"I'm Ron Paul." - Ron Paul

It wasn't meant to be funny, it's true and I wanted to share!

I don't get it friend. You say that water vapor coming from a plane can form lingering, spreading clouds that last for hours, but then you don't believe me when I tell you that the water vapor coming from my teapot and car does the same thing. You are offering mixed signals and I am confused. Now, you lead me to Government alphabet agencies for proof, here on the DP no less. I don't need proof, I already found it, didn't you read. If we keep conversing, will you buy me a beer with your earnings?

Micheal Murphy Admits Persistent Contrails Exist

"you say that water vapor coming from a plane can form lingering spreading clouds that last for hours"

That's not what I say, it's what has been reported in:

Journal of the Atmospheric Sciences
Vol. 57: 464-480 (Volume publication date: February 2000)
DOI: 10.1175/1520-0469(2000)057<0464:OTTOCI>2.0.CO;2

The report is titled:

On the Transition of Contrails into Cirrus Clouds

Here is the abstract:

In situ observations of the microphysical properties of upper-tropospheric contrails and cirrus clouds have been performed during more than 15 airborne missions over central Europe. Experimental and technical aspects concerning in situ characterization of ice clouds with the help of optical and nonoptical detection methods (preferably FSSP-300 and Hallet-type replicator) are addressed. The development of contrails into cirrus clouds on the timescale of 1 h is discussed in terms of a representative set of number densities, and size distributions and surface area distributions of aerosols and cloud elements, with special emphasis on small ice crystals (diameter <20 μm). Contrails are dominated by high concentrations (>100 cm−3) of nearly spherical ice crystals with mean diameters in the range 1–10 μm. Young cirrus clouds, which mostly contain small regularly shaped ice crystals in the range 10–20-μm diameter and typical concentrations 2–5 cm−3, have been observed. Measurement results are compared to simple parcel model calculations to identify parameters relevant for the contrail–cirrus transition. Observations and model estimates suggest that contrail growth is only weakly, if at all, affected by preexisting cirrus clouds.

But hey, don't take their word for it, they are just meteorological scientists.

What about the cult leader Micheal Murphy? He has been telling us for years that Contrails don't persist.

Now I'm confused because here at 1:25 he says they do:

So, Micheal Murphy admits persistent contrails are real.

We can go through this one point at a time if you like.

And no, I will not you a beer. Your logic is already that of a drunk

"I'm Ron Paul." - Ron Paul

Lame sarcasm lame point

So clouds don't form... by your analogy all clouds are government chemblobs.

You remind me of a George Carlin quote:
“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”

The problem is, is that you think you are the smart one...

Here's a quote from me: "You can lead a chemtrail myth believer to vapor but you can't make him think."

Ahahahaha

Happygirl, I LOVE THE QUOTE. That's awesome! I'm still laughing....:)

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Gosh, what gives LH, I was backing you up dude!!

I'm gonna put a pot of tea on and make a video of the water vapor forming clouds in my house, that'll show ya! I thought we could be friends but you're making fun of me.

I don't know that word, sarcasm, what does it mean?

I'm not sure, but you sound like you're mad at me or something. Just to clarify, I believe clouds can be made from the back of a plane, don't you?

How about an insider that affirms chemtrails?


http://youtu.be/jHm0XhtDyZA

" the biggest problem we have is dis-information shills... and sites like metabunk and contrailscience.org .."

It can't be...can it?

Looks like she's retracted some of her statements

Here is a comment she posted on YouTube regarding her status as a chemtrail whistleblower:

The title is inaccurate, I've been trying to get the info out. I am not an engineer, but I worked in Bioenvironmental Engineering. I am an Industrial Hygienist and Environmental Specialist.

I did talk about chemtrails and seeing the materials on system, but as an AF whistleblower, I blew the whistle on an attempt to cover up carcinogenic overexposures; this was from industrial sanding operations, not chemtrails.I just wanted to clear that up.

Peace, Love, and Liberty,

Kristen Meghan

The original comment can be found here:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YSxtbLdMpo4

She is not an "insider", has no evidence and her reputation has been tainted with lies and disinfo.

This is the third video you have submitted and the third one I have debunked. Please stop trolling this thread with ridiculous videos.

If you want to gain support for your position try posting a peer reviewed study, or an interview with an expert (with credentials, not a Phd in youtube)

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