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Rand Paul responds to neocon critics in National Review op-ed

Buckley’s Realist Foreign Policy
Is there no room for his views in today’s conservative camp?

By Sen. Rand Paul
APRIL 22, 2014 1:00 PM

The knives are out for conservatives who dare question unlimited involvement in foreign wars.

Foreign policy, the interventionist critics claim, has no place for nuance or realism. You are either for us or against us. No middle ground is acceptable. The Wilsonian ideologues must have democracy worldwide now and damn all obstacles to that utopia. I say sharpen your knives, because the battle once begun will not end easily.

Conservatives who want to read libertarian conservatives out of the movement should re-read some old copies of National Review first.

From Frank Meyer to William F. Buckley Jr. to George Will — indeed to Ronald Reagan — there is a strain of libertarianism endemic to conservatism.

Meyer, in fact, averred that conservatism needed a dose of libertarianism. He argued that traditional conservatism actually comes out a bit stale without a twist of freedom. Virtue needs a dash of liberty to refresh and excite the populace.

On foreign policy, even National Review’s founder William F. Buckley Jr. occasionally expressed views today’s NRO writers might find heretical.

more:
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/376307/buckleys-realis...

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One of these days Rand will stop walking on eggshells regarding

...these republican Neo-Con, Arab-hating, interventionist war-mongers, who enrich themselves by teaming up with American weapons makers.

He's being very civil and philosophical in his comments.

But I wonder how many more Peter Kings, John Boltons, Lyndsey Grahams, John McCains etc can continue to bash his policy ideas before he loses it...ala his DAD???

That's the day I'm looking forward to.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

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Interventionists!

Since the neocons are always using that damn "isolationist" word, maybe Rand should use "interventionist" more and more. Drop it in every interview he has on Fox from now on. Give them a dose of their own medicine.

To me it has a pretty negative tone, for example "Well, those interventionist Republicans in my party want to spend the taxpayers hard earned dollars on war and foreign aid to other Countries. I say we need to reduce our interventionism and concentrate on making our country better."

"It’s not pessimistic, brother, because this is the blues. We are blues people. The blues aren’t pessimistic. We’re prisoners of hope but we tell the truth and the truth is dark. That’s different." ~CW

Am I mistakened or is George Will very much a libertarian?

He is usually the most articulate on those Sunday morning talk shows

If you are around 50 years

If you are around 50 years old George Will himself is the greater conservative beacon than Buckley. Mention Buckley sure, but I prefer Rand threw this in:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08...

10-15 million more voters need to believe in non-interventionism (liberty) at home and abroad to change America. Minds changed on Syria. Minds changing on privacy. "Printing money" is part of the dialogue. Win minds through focus, strategy.

That's a great quote quoted

That's a great quote quoted in the article: “Conservatism seems to be saying government can’t run Amtrak, but it can run the Middle East” - George Will

Andrew Napolitano for President 2016!
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"Patriotism should come from loving thy neighbor, not from worshiping Graven images." - ironman77

Good article...

but funny thing happened while reading the comments. Edward Snowden exposed the NSA and their counterparts in other countries as specifically hiring people to "troll" on these types of news stories to discredit the author, subject matter, or steer the conversation to non relevant issues. Well guess what? If found a troll!! :D A poster named "Erudite Mavin" was trash talking Rand, then trash talking Ron, then changing the subject. Out of curiosity, I clicked his name and lo and behold he has 3674 comments as of this post. Looking through his posts, which occur on a very frequent basis, and the content of the posts, I'd say I found a paid troll!! That's my story, and I'm sticking with it! :D

there's a poll "Do you support Rand Paul?"

at the top right corner of the page:
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but you need an email address to vote.

here's the current results:

Yes 63.1% (106 votes)
No 28.57% (48 votes)
Don't know enough yet 8.33% (14 votes)

If there is a strain of libertarianism endemic to conservatism,

then there's an equally endemic strain of MURDER. Indeed, ask Reagan.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

I see what Rand did here...

It' a pretty thin reed of an argument, though. Buckley's Iraq war comments are really the exception in a career of extolling the virtues of the welfare/warfare/MIC/ police state. Furthermore, I simply cannot think of Buckley in any kind of positive light after reading his "obituary" for Murray Rothbard.

I wrote a little synopsis on this

I think Sen. Paul did a great job here.

I hate to jump the gun here, but I think Rand Paul just destroyed the neocons in a guest post at National Review. He took their Wilsonian noses and rubbed them up against quotes from their own hero...

http://iroots.org/2014/04/22/did-rand-paul-just-destroy-the-...

Check out http://iroots.org/
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Bump!

One of my theories about Rand is that he is the Incarnation of Ron's Transition Plan on all matters from the Foreign Policy to the Civil Liberties. Yes, he is not the true libertarian as he is breathing Transition Plan.


http://youtu.be/x3iK6Hy6xMA

"Air is the very substance of our freedom, the substance of superhuman joy....aerial joy is freedom."--Gaston Bachelard--

Thank you, thank you.

This is what I have been trying to explain to others. There will be a transition. Obviously, Dr. Ron Paul was my first choice but Rand knows what to do.

Frank Meyer, yes Buckley, no

Frank Meyer, yes
Buckley, no

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