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1 Cop, 2 Cops, 5 Cops…This Guy Let’s Them All Have It, Then he Walks Away

Here's a guy who's a little nervous but I give him full props. I hope that I could do so well~

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/1-cop-2-cops-5-copsthis-guy...



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The patriot act routine.

Things I hope you saw.
1), 1st female cop tells other female cops "we're good we got his first name". Male cop says "it's not our suspect if he does not want to give us his name oh well". 1st female then tells other females, "unless you got something else you want to talk to him about".
2) Male cop then begins to laugh. (at the prospect of the other female cops having something else to talk to him about)
3) female cops then go into the patriot act routine. "There's a reason why he is not giving it (his name) to us" and "There is a reason you're not giving us your name ya know" The ol' if you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to hide so let us in, let us look, let us read, let us store it all.
4) What sure sounded like a treat from the 1st female who had pulled her gun on him. "I'm sure we'll be talking to you." Why would that be?
Oh and I might add a
5)The 1st cop did not want to say what type of weapon she had. Why is that? A citizen asks her a question as simple as what is the weapon she pulled on said citizen and she does not want to give the information while demanding the citizens personal info for no legal reason.

Imagine

what went on before cell phones.

This dude is NUTS, I love it!

This dude is NUTS, I love it!

A New American Hero! My first

A New American Hero!

My first thought after - WOW - was this guy should get a medal. Maybe a Liberty Medal but then I found out they have one already. The "National Constitution Center" gives one out to; "...men and women of courage and conviction who have strived to secure the blessings of liberty to people the world over." Great I thought, then I read some of their recipients. Including the likes of 2013 recipient Hillary Clinton and ROBERT GATES, George Bush, Bill Clinton, HAMID KARZAI,COLIN POWELL,KOFI ANNAN...

Ricky, you deserve a better medal than that.

"F*** You!" Got goosebumps

"F*** You!"

Got goosebumps when he said that.
Feels good man.

wow

He did great! Guy knows his stuff, let's get him on TV or something.

"Reasonable Suspicion"

It can be a very complicated phrase to be addressed. The wiki is a bit long on explaining this so I won't cut and paste it.

In this aspect I believe the young man was correct in citing Terry v. Ohio in that "walking down the street" is not cause for an arrest and search.

In the video the first police officer to make contact admitted she was not there to arrest him, and then after being asked, that he was not being detained, but she continues to follow him after he walks off.

At the 8:44 mark the police officer explains why she is looking for a man in camouflage shorts and shirt "all we want are the keys," and then "see the guy with the camouflage shorts and shirt? he was suppose to be over here and I had to get something from him and I though it was you."

I think most here would be of the dissenting view in the case of Terry v. Ohio, Justice Douglas strongly disagreed with permitting a stop and search absent probable cause:
"We hold today that the police have greater authority to make a 'seizure' and conduct a 'search' than a judge has to authorize such action. We have said precisely the opposite over and over again.""To give the police greater power than a magistrate is to take a long step down the totalitarian path. Perhaps such a step is desirable to cope with modern forms of lawlessness. But if it is taken, it should be the deliberate choice of the people through a constitutional amendment."

"Liberty is the soul's right to breathe, and when it cannot take a long breath laws are girded too tight. Without liberty, man is a syncope." -Henry Ward Beecher

No state law can violate the

No state law can violate the constitution. California can make it ok for cops to detain you for wearing a yellow shirt but that doesn't make it lawful. Marbury v. Madison says unconstitutional laws are void ab initio.

But "Terry vs. Ohio" argues in the cops' favor!

That's the case he quoted while the cops were harrassing him.

They didn't even GET it!

So I don't know what's stranger; the fact that he quoted a ruling supporting what the cops were doing, or the fact that they didn't KNOW about it!

Because if they had, they would have told him that the very Supreme Court ruling he was quoting gave them the right to ask him for ID, AND frisk him for a weapon.

Here's that case - TERRY vs OHIO (1968):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_v._Ohio

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Is it reasonable

Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968), was a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court which held that the Fourth Amendment prohibition on unreasonable searches and seizures is not violated when a police officer stops a suspect on the street and frisks him or her without probable cause to arrest, IF the police officer has a reasonable suspicion that the person has committed, is committing, or is about to commit a crime and has a reasonable belief that the person "may be armed and presently dangerous."[1]

====== He asked them if they thought he had committed, was committing, or was about to commit a crime======

For their own protection, police may perform a quick surface search of the person’s outer clothing for weapons IF they have REASONABLE SUSPICION that the person stopped is armed.

This reasonable suspicion must be based on "specific and articulable facts" and not merely upon an officer's hunch. This permitted police action has subsequently been referred to in short as a "stop and frisk," or simply a "Terry frisk". The Terry standard was later extended to temporary detentions of persons in vehicles, known as traffic stops; see Terry stop for a summary of subsequent jurisprudence.

=======They have to have REASONABLE SUSPICION not based on a feeling, nose twitching or hunch =================

I've learned a lot from watching this video a couple of times. He might have been nervous, high pitched and cussing up a blue streak but I love how he knew what to say and wasn't afraid to just go there and say it

Garnet
Daughter of 1776 American Revolutionists

Ha! My name is not necessary....!

Kudos Ricky. When all the people start standing up, they'll start standing down...

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
"I know major allies who fund them" Gen. Dempsey referring to ISIS

I'm thinking it would be fun

carrying a special I.D. just for situations like this.

Something that sends a message about the "Papers Please" culture we're now living in.

Maybe the cop would feel like a POS for being a real, authentic "Brown Shirt, SATSI agent.

Challenge that whole, "State Issued I.D." presumption.

And film the whole episode like "Ricky" did.

Get it going viral.

Nice

Their attitude and presence quickly changed once he quoted Terry v Ohio. Ha, their expressions were like "WTF?"

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

The power of change is in YOUR hands.

If just 10% of the population responded to police like him they would stop.
Think about it. The power of change is in YOUR hands.

"You only live free if your willing to die free."

I have a question: I know the Constitution protects us at a

...federal level but in the video it said that in California, they can detain (or arrest) you if they feel you could be a suspect in a crime.

This seems to have been what she was looking for.

He was brave (and knowledgeable) but I would not have sworn at the cops.

Perhps California law states that police can detain or arrest anyone who they suspect of a crime.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Ricky, if you were gay I think I would kiss you on the lips

!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Those cops were of a less

Those cops were of a less viscious variety than a lot of them, still very dangerous. My hat is off to Ricky. It isn't easy maintaining your composure when your staring down an ignorant stooge with the full force of the entire corrupt system behind him. Had a less threatening encounter with rookie small town cops over a seat belt awhile back. Shook em up bad enough that they forgot to have me sign the ticket. Told em they should seriously rethink their career paths and were serving and protecting a gang of theives. Went into a full blown f bomb tirade on seat belt laws, the slippery slope and the emerging police state. Wasn't even close to polite as Ricky. I was to furious to be scared. Need better anger management skills. Cops really are the herd and attack dogs for the parasites and that's it.

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Thank you, Ricky.

You are a patriot, my friend.

Google is government.

power tripping as usual

power tripping as usual

LAPD Has A Bad Reputation

I don't blame that guy for standing his ground, although he didn't need to use profanity to hold his ground.

We live in a totalitarian and surveillance state where the police shoot first and answer questions later...

I would say he was damn lucky he had a cell phone recording the whole incident...That female cop was probably a "BULL DYKE"

Word to the wise: Get out of the big cities.

Very Brave Man

...Very...Well Done.

Wha? .....hey....who stole my country?

Whoof

That was tough to watch. It can be scary when you see what HAS been done to innocent people, and you suddenly find yourself in that position. I really felt bad for the guy, you could hear his voice shaking and just tell how nervous he was.

It's nice to see more and more people taking advantage of cameras, the internet, and their right to privacy! He definitely said too much, but the amount of pressure from their intimidation and coercion can be overwhelming. I give the guy props overall for standing his ground.

you can't blame a man for

you can't blame a man for being nervous when he is surrounded by 5 cold blooded killers