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what the fuck is "dope" anymore?
IT'S CALLED MEDICINE!!
Whether you think you can or you can't, you're right. -Henry Ford
when that other dude says "the brain controls the body like God controls the earth"
I really feel like each time people hear Hannity talk, some of their brain cells die.
All their complains about weed should really be applied to FOXNEWS. It makes people too lazy to think for themselves and is bad for America.
“With laws shall our land be built up, but with lawlessness laid waste.”
I feel a lot dumber for hearing those two propagandist morons speak. Sean is so obvious with his bias, letting that liar speak for so long. God I hate him.
marijuana ever could.
he is right...Pot is the 'i don't give a shit' plant....and before you boneheads jump me i have a 18 year old son who was doing great all through school until this year ( his senior year. he will still graduate). He has quit all the after school programs he used to be involved in and dropped a classier bunch of friends that were much like himself and has decided to run with some Zero's that don't do anything in their miserable lives but smoke pot after school. I finally went through his room last Saturday because i was seeing a major personality change for the worse and found a bong and some other paraphernalia and decided to go through his text messages in two of his old phones and was floored by what i found out was going on. This is a kid who up until 9 months ago had BIG plans and was in the top 10% at his school...9 months later after smoking the pot which has led to other things as well its like he isn't even the same person. TOTALLY different personality, no ambition and emotionally bankrupt and it has nothing to do with anything accept the fact that he started running with Zero's and smoking pot among doing other things i don't care to get in to. I'm devastated as i have raised this child sense he was two years old all by myself and because of a stupid plant and all these stupid kids that think they know it all by the time they are 18 years of age its looking more and more like i have lost my son...9 FREAKING MONTHS hanging with potheads and smoking the dope is all it took to erase 18 years of my life and his life so shove that in your silly pipes and smoke it !..........
"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
with parents who are in denial. marijuana is usually the first to get blamed because it's the drug of choice for most. never mind the fact that they (kids) are probably drinking too but so does/has mom or dad so it can't be that. and since you're such a wonderful parent who raised your kid right and never set a bad example by spying on them and such then it has to be the evil marijuana. bad parents usually end up blaming marijuana for their own failures because if it was not marijuana that's the problem then it must be bad parenting and we all know parents are perfect. i mean what else are you supposed to tell your friend at the cocktail/pill party, little johnny was doing so great until marijuana stole him from us. and just look at our daughter and how well she is doing at being a school slave and following orders. so she throws up her food and cuts herself but did you see the grades she got in gym class and heath edu and home economics.
Materialism, Gobm't schools and most likely a poor character role model.
Don't blame cannabis because your kid has no common sense.
That is but one, bad experience and you use that to agree with Hannity?
Logic is not on your side today, CW. I'm sorry that your 18-year-old son has chosen his own path, but don't you dare blame it on Cannabis.
Not fair and not accurate, at all and I can't believe I'm reading this REEFER MADNESS SHIT on the Daily Paul.
I was in a good mood today, too....
If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.
and this isn't one bad experience. I knew plenty of people in school that smoked that crap and never made anything of themselves. His problems can definitely be traced back to running with the wrong crowd and smoking dope and i have the text data with times and dates to back it up. The slippery slope started with this new crowd of people and smoking the pot! You folks have no freaking idea how many lives will be ruined if that crap is legalized. Kids can NOT handle it PERIOD.
Your son is either a) a loser or b) rebelling. I'm leaning more towards (b) because if it's (a) I wouldn't procreate anymore- your gene pool stock is tainted.
I can't believe you think so little of your son or even your parenting skills that a plant, with neurogenic properties I might add, has wipe away all your son's intelligence. As I stated, that would be a pretty weak gene pool. I'm leaning towards option (b) again, you've done such a great job to think outside the box (after all I imagine you support the good Dr.), that your son is merely following in your nonconformist ways.
Embrace him he's a revolutionary. And yes, I'm a successful doctor who's smoked more in a day than your son in 9 months. Chill out, he'll realize he's hanging out with losers rather quickly. Cannabis brought me closer to my family because it helped me stay focused on my heart. I quickly realized that my friends were never there but my family always is.
In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
That is easily said but you haven't seen what I have seen. He isn't changing for the better here. Being a revolutionary has nothing to do with smoking pot and to ask me to embrace this behavior shows you haven't a clue what it takes to raise a child or even what was written in the post you responded to. Being a conformist has nothing to do with it. He was doing great in school because he is smart and enjoyed being involved in after school programs..The weed has changed all of that. To be ok with a 18 year old smoking dope is insane. They are nowhere near maturity . They are not established in life at all and all that crap does to a 18 year old kids is make them not give a damn about anything real. I've seen it a thousand times and although i'm ok with adults ( take that as responsible people who have their lives lined out and are doing well for themselves) smoking dope i have a HUGE problem with the notion of legalizing it so even more kids think its ok to do it. One of his main arguments was 'dad, a lot of places are even making it legal now'... 18 year olds are NOT mature enough to handle the wrong kind of peer pressure and smoking dope, simple as that. Most kids aren't even able to leave their parents homes these days until they are close to 30 years old but they can handle the dope...riiiiiiiight !......
Here try some of this, it's some one-hit shyt. Oh no wait, you don't partake. OK, nevermind, sorry bro.
^all of the above is just play acting, ok?
CW I think you're way too wound up about this. I was a pretty damn good student in HS in the 70's, straight A's and academic scholarships and all like that and I smoked a LOT of weed in those days. Stopped getting high once I went off to college mostly because I was the typical broke college student but really because I had other things on my mind, mostly my studies. 'The pot' didn't interfere with my ability to make good choices in my life, if anything it made me a bit more introspective and perhaps self-critical. But I've done OK for myself - BS, MS, now a well paid professional (engineer/project manager) working overseas. So it can be done, but the point is I got where I am in large part because my parents cared for me and knew me well enough to let me make my own decisions, even those involving getting high - and suffer/benefit from the consequences accordingly. I'll bet your son will do just as well under similar circumstances.
That's the essence of liberty and the real message of the Ron Paul R3VOLution, my friend.
You said: "To be ok with a 18 year old smoking dope is insane. They are nowhere near maturity ."
Yet they are able to enter into contracts? Kill and die for their country? Soon, will be able to have a beer if that other post comes to fruition?
Then you said: "18 year olds are NOT mature enough to handle the wrong kind of peer pressure and smoking dope, simple as that. Most kids aren't even able to leave their parents homes these days until they are close to 30 years old but they can handle the dope...riiiiiiiight !"
So are you advocating raising the age of adulthood to 30? You seem to be all over the place. Perhaps take a toke and chill a bit? You will think a bit clearer, and cure some of the tumors that you (and everyone) are constantly growing.
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Sorry about your situation. Try to lighten up, try to see your son's point of view. Love him, sounds to me like he loves you, but somehow got lost. I wish you closure.
You might remind him, when he says that, that it is still illegal for 18 year olds! (Too young to make a reasonable decision about it!) It has been thought that it might damage IQ in teens. If he is so dumb that he does not care, he must have some other problem driving him!
And, I might ask where he is getting the money to buy the stuff! I never got anything, at that age, that I did not pay for, myself. I maintained insurance on my own car, and took care of its maintenance, as well. Lacking responsibility might let an eighteen year old make some poor decisions. My dad told me I could smoke, if I wanted, at twelve years old!? He also said I had a lot of better things to spend my money on! He also said they were not easy to get rid of and he wished he had never started. As a result, neither my twin or I, ever smoked.
Both of us attended post graduate college and attained advanced degrees. (both parents never graduated high school) Could it be a generation gap or communication problem? He might learn responsibility if he were to learn how to take care of himself.
Losers don't get in the top 10% in their high school and don't make straight A's from elementary school all the way through high school.
Nice try smart ass. What losers do is post a comment like you just did because for some strange reason they are offended by the truth...
I did the same thing. Your son is an addict it doesn't matter what drug it is he will abuse it and take it to the extreme. It is a very hard place to be in as a parent but force based "help" is not going to be very helpful.
There isn't anything that is helpful when a 18 year old starts doing dope. This is the whole point. As a parent i'm at odds every direction i turn to try and help him. Oh and lets not even talk about these STUPID parents that seemingly don't have a problem with it and just go along with it so they can keep their kids at home. Had one women get pissed at me because i told here and 'showed' her what her daughter had been doing and another set of parents that acted oh so concerned to my face only to turn around and tell my son every damn thing i told them totally undermining what i was going to try to do to get him some help and even let him stay with them for a couple of days. This world has gone to total shit. Freaking deadbeat parents who are right there with them...morally bankrupt society!
The best help is a quick trip to bottom.
I went a little crazy in the 60s smoking pot, dropped out of college, returned and finished when I was in my mid-twenties. I went on to a successful professional career (smoking the entire time). Teen hormones make them crazy and pot doesn't help, but God willing, your son will straighten out. The REAL danger to him, however, is the dossier that The State is creating on him. I was fortunate that my indiscretions were not computerized and available to any potential employer, as is the case now. You might try to get him to realize that the system will be looking up his ass for the rest of his life, which will hurt him when looking for a job or dealing with the courts. If I were you, I would pull him out of public school before the zero-tolerance imbeciles there start putting black marks in his dossier. Of course, there is always the possibility he will follow in the footsteps of famous dropout stoners like Steve Jobs, Richard Branson, Michael Phelps, Barack Obama, Ted Turner, Stephen King, Arnold Schwarzenegger and of course Bill Clinton (who didn't inhale, but should have). Also do not discount the possibility that your son is reacting to the cognitive dissonance engendered by his prison/school constantly pitching 'Land of the Free, home of the Brave' while his every experience in school contradicts this lie.
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We're sorry your having issues at home with your son. Substance abuse is a serious issue and no one is trying to minimize that. However taking away people's freedom for simply possessing these substances is a FAR greater problem.
That's how collectivists think. As individuals, we all have our own personal threshold for overconsumption/overindulgence of everything. If it wasn't weed, maybe it would've been booze, or worse yet, prescription meds that your son tried and liked a little too much.
I know LOTS of people who have smoked weed since their teens and are either very smart and/or very successful adults. I know ZERO people who have actually become more stupid from smoking pot.
Pfff, Whats the point arguing with dope heads anyway ? Most of you sound like my 18 year old son...amazing isn't it ? lol Never lay down with dogs, you will surely get fleas. This thread is definitely for dogs...
Never smoked marijuana, never will unless a doctor prescribes it for a medical condition.
It seems to me you didn't raise your son too well.
You see, my parents taught me that in Islam, all intoxicants and addictive substances are forbidden, and they did so with love and kindness. When I was old enough, they taught me that even so much as dating girls in high school was forbidden in Islam and I accept that as part of my faith. I'm glad to say that I listened to my parents and have good moral values instilled in me through my childhood through love and gentleness. I wasn't even spanked as a kid to get it through my head.
But because you failed to instill good Christian values in your child, you're telling me that we should initiate government force to prevent kids from harming themselves and making stupid mistakes with their lives? Using that same line of thought, why not ban alcohol, tobacco, fast food, junk food, regulate the internet and television, and ban guns?
Beyond that, the Drug war has serious unintended consequences. What type of person would you think of when you imagine a drug user or a drug dealer? Probably an African American or Hispanic person. That explains why, as Ron Paul has stated, African Americans are responsible for nearly two thirds of convictions for drug offenses, while it is estimated that they only constitute one third of all offenders.
Furthermore, there is no mandatory minimum sentencing, which further explains why blacks get far worse sentences on net than white people, and the amount of arrested offenders is growing so large, that rapists, thieves, pedophiles, and murderers leave to make more space for drug offenders. Drug offenders make up more than half of the nation's prison population.
The sad part about all of this is that if someone like your son got arrested for smoking weed, his reputation would be trashed because he now would have a felony on his rap sheet, meaning he wouldn't get scholarships from schools, would be denied access to credit by banks, and wouldn't be able to gain any meaningful employment beyond flipping burgers at McDonalds for the rest of his life, even though he was, as you say, in the top 10% of his class and thus likely has so much untapped potential in him to contribute to society whether as a doctor, lawyer, engineer, or whatever he dreams. Nope, he made the mistake of being caught doing drugs and is forced to do a pathetic, low end job and be miserable. Congratulations, dad! Really!
And if you are the type of person I suspect you are, you're probably going to kick him out and let him be independent, meaning he won't get any assistance from you while he's working a minimum wage job and can barely pay his bills. But hey! Selling drugs makes lots of money, and since the government won't give him any assistance and his family has effectively disowned him, well, why not sell drugs to make ends meet? And this is why the rate of recidivism, or returning to jail, is over 50% among drug offenders.
Untold millions of lives have been squandered because of the social stigma that resulted from their arrest for drugs. It is one of the major reasons people in the inner cities can't escape poverty and are stuck in a life of crime. Because people like you engage in intellectual and moral sloth and didn't do a great job parenting your children, millions of people who want to live their lives freely are suffering. So my solution is to be a better parent rather than to rag on your own son, call him a failure, and endorse tyranny to make up for your misgivings. The Founders understood that a free society cannot last without strong moral values and we have to remember that as well.
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LoLoL...could you imagine insurance paying for Cannabis?
Top post, I agree, the damage done by illegalization far outweighs the damage of the actual substance for all the reason you just described.
You do not have a problem with this being legal for me right? Just your son? I am 27(first time I smoked was at 22). Your family's problems should not take away my rights correct?
Sorry for what you are going through, but if my father was on this site discrediting my livelihood like this, I would be disheartened at his age. You better make sure you never let him see the selfishness of his father who is writing him off so early in life.
If you think he will be nothing later in life, it will not be solely because of you, but because he will lose his pride in himself and his family because of your selfish Hannity box you are stuck in.
Hannity before family. Sorry to frame it like that, but if you are on this Website, I can only result to thinking like this.
They have lost the debate and have not a leg to stand on but the propaganda machine demands that they continue to put this out. Because just like Iraq, and Afganistan the Fed etc. they can NEVER admit that they are WRONG about ANYTHING EVER.
I think Mr. Hannity gets all of his information on marijuana from stoner movies set in the 1970s.
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