Evictionism as justification for abortion? Murray Rothbard is full of crap.Submitted by sethr11 on Sat, 04/26/2014 - 12:38
So I posted the following in response to a post about spanking. Another DPer opposes spanking but supports abortion, which is silly. They defined their position as Evictionsim, and it appears that Rothbard is a proponent of the theory. This is not an attack on Rothbard as a person or everything he says, but I believe he is wrong about abortion, and so is the other DPer. Here is my response:
An unborn baby is not a trespasser except in cases of rape, which is about 1% of all abortions according to the pro choice New York Times.
So with rape being statistically insignificant, the other 99% of the time the unborn baby is aborted as after the fact birth control by irresponsible women. Are you in the moral right to invite me to your house, and shoot me as a trespasser when I show up? If you order a Pizza and the delivery guy walks on your property, is he a trespasser? No, obviously he is on your property as a result of your FREE choices.
As far as the idea of a fetus being a parasite, how could you not argue for infanticide? My 4 year old sucks away my money on food, and clothing, do I have the moral right to kill him on those grounds? A fetus is not a parasite, it is by human life in a stage of development.
Killing a human life is OK when it is in your body, but spanking that same human life when it is outside of the body is wrong, this is logical to you? So you want children to develop into good adults because you love them, but fuck it, go ahead and have their bodies ripped apart in pieces, and vacuum sucked out of the womb, if a baby is going to get in the way of going to the nightclub?.
I have a challenge for you and your belief system, I challenge you to go watch some abortion videos on pro life websites and see if you feel any empathy. I also challenge you to define at what exact point a human life becomes of value to you, and you then find killing them wrong? What day does the clock on the wall have to strike midnight rendering rights onto a fetus? How can you logically say something has no rights, and in 5 seconds when the clock hits midnight, it now has rights? At what point is killing a fetus causing an uncomfortable feeling with your guilt levels? Or, do you support a woman having an abortion at 8 1/2 months as well?
There is a parallel between abortion and warfare, in both situations killing is made OK by psychologically dehumanizing them first. First you rationalize others as having lesser or no value, then killing can be accomplished. The more someone lacks empathy, a sociopath, the easier it is to kill. I would think that the best abortion doctors are sociopaths that enjoy their work.
I understand that the most psychologically entrenched individuals are the women that have had abortions, and that admitting to being a murderer is a tough thing. As a former member of the U.S. military that served corporate interests, and as a result participated in launching fighter jets to bomb Iraqis, I am a accomplice to murder. I was young, naive, thought I had good intentions, and had the brainwashing reinforced by everyone around me. I would be in jail if I had done what I did in the U.S., but because it was brown people, they gave me little colorful ribbons. That doesn't mean that I wasn't an accomplice to murder though, and the mainstream reinforcing abortion as OK, doesn't make that not murder either.
In order to support war or abortion you have to be able to see the value of human life on a sliding scale, and who made you God? Where do others see your value of life on their sliding scales? Life either has value or it doesn't, and if you believe it is up to you to subjectively assign value, you view yourself as a God, whether you are willing to admit it or not.