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Ron Paul Supporters Ousted in Iowa

This made me a little sick.

We all remember the shenanigans the establishment pulled during the 2012 election cycle. Despite their efforts, Ron Paul was able to win the majority of delegates in several states. Iowa was one of those states. Just when we thought we had a foot in the door, the Iowa Republicans have made a terrible mistake and ousted the Ron Paul supporting leadership.

The Des Moines Register said the party was trying to build a broader base, with less focus on “pet liberty-movement issues,” adding, “Big donors who closed their checkbooks may start giving money to the state party again.”

"By continuing under the leadership of Ron Paul supporters, Iowa Republicans risked having the state party sidelined, similar to what happened in Nevada in 2012."

The winner who wrote the article referred to "Mr. Ron Paul" neglecting his journalistic duty to address him formally as "Dr. Ron Paul."

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/29/upshot/why-ron-paul-suppor...

For more information on the DP look here: http://www.dailypaul.com/317752/iowa-republican-convention-news

Here is the article from the Des Moines Register:
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/electio...

"Saturday's results are a seismic shift: No longer in power are A.J. Spiker, who was the country's first liberty-movement state party chair; liberty Republican David Fischer, who was the party's co-chairman; and seven State Central Committee members who backed Paul, the father of the liberty movement. (There were 18 voting members, but the seven had formed alliances to claim a majority.)"

Spiker leaves the Republican Party of Iowa with more than $300,000 cash on hand, zero debt and with a voter registration advantage for Republicans over the Iowa Democratic Party.”

http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2014/03/08/...

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Left Out a Few Key Facts

Remember why the last Iowa State GOP Chair resigned? Amidst the vote counting fiasco. Straw poll votes were to be counted publicly. Instead they were counted in private, many votes were lost and/or thrown out, the vote counting dragged on for days, and the decision was later reversed.

Also, the establishment who got voted out when Spiker got voted in were actively petitioning the donors to stop contributing money... so they could say that the donors stop contributing money.

Ah,

Thanks for that tidbit. Now it really makes sense.

"I'm Ron Paul." - Ron Paul

Surprise!

Gee, I didn't know the parties exist to get the big money!

I thought they really cared about our freedom!

Yeah, right.

We are as welcome in the GOP as an atheist is welcome at church.

However, by 2016...

we'll have won back all the positions we lost. It's like a seesaw until we get our act together regarding mid-term elections.

2016 will be a Rand-slide. And the Iowa establishment knows it : )

That "pet-liberty movement issues" comment really pisses me off.

So THAT is how they think of pro-liberty people?

EFF the republican party. I will do anything possible to destroy the establishment GOP.

But this doesn't mean just going away like they want us to do. It means getting liberty-supporting candidates right into the heart of the party - right in their faces.

In Iowa, liberty-lovers should treat this as the first shot in a WAR against the GOP.

How they can effectively fight it however is a tougher issue when the party has the power to simply oust anyone they want.

By the way, Heller, the senator from Nevada who they mentioned, is one of the few principled ones IN the senate. Remember, Heller voted with Rand to not support giving a billion to UKRAINE.

They were the only 2 in the senate to vote against it.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

"...big donors closed their checkbooks..."

That's all I had to read. It's why I'm done with party politics, at the end of the day the parties only listen to their rich members, the rest of the pissants be Damned.

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“pet liberty-movement issues,” like the Constitution!

This is a sick twisted story, written by a sick dying newspaper grasping at more straws.

Steve, I'm being serious

When I say it made me feel sick. The whole thing stinks to high heaven. I will try to update this post with more information later today.

I want the good people of Iowa know how much I appreciate what they were able to accomplish!

"I'm Ron Paul." - Ron Paul

If anyone is surprised by this ...

I really feel for you ~ I will say this now publicly for the first time and I quote " Only the black flag will do "

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Sometimes it's the only way to eliminate the pests

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Silver lining

With the leadership of the official party changed, nobody can claim that a Rand Paul blowout of the Iowa caucuses in 2016 was rigged from the inside. This changes nothing. We still need to participate at all levels from county on up. Canvassing, building relationships and doing all the grunt work that we learned from the Campaign for Liberty.
We press on.

Dr. Mike Vasovski
South Carolina Campaign Chairman, Ron Paul 2012
The SINGLE vote in the SC delegation for RP, GOP Convention, Tampa, FL
2010 Candidate, US Congress SC-03
Past Chairman, Aiken, SC County Tea Party

Refuse to vote for a

Refuse to vote for a party-liner. If a candidate comes across as a genuine, constitutionally based advocate, then disregard party affiliation and vote for that one. I put absolutely no faith in parties any longer. I previously thought just vote for the independent liberty candidates, but that would eliminate just about every constitutional candidate. Specifically those who must don the coat of party affiliation to win. How the successfully elected behave in Washington, that's the real test of worthiness.

probably a good thing overall

Because maybe the way they got money was not the most ethical. I don't know certainly doesn't seem positive, this story that is.

Doesn't this put the kybosh on reforming the GOP?

The Iowa party was a good example of the Ron Paul Revolution taking control of the Republican Party and was, I believe, a template for this effort.

Many Ron Paul followers became involved with the GOP in order to follow this example. After watching The Granger change into a neo-con before our very eyes, Rand Paul kowtowing to the AIPAC and now this reversal in the one State that seemed to be making progress, one might be led to the conclusion that the wheels have come off the Revolution wagon...at least as far as the takeover of the Republican Party by Ron Paul's principles is concerned.

It was always a long shot but it did seem to be possible. Now I am not so sure. Perhaps the only way the Empire will collapse and freedom will ring is the through the mother of all financial crises that will bring down the global monetary and banking system, along with everything and everyone attached to it. That of course was always going to happen but a President Paul would have made the experience less horrendous, I believe.

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No, it shows what happens

No, it shows what happens when people stop showing up to be involved.

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could it be

that people are sick of the lying, and cheating and then having it rubbed in their faces?

this doesn't mean that the liberty message of ron paul, the intellectual argument is not being spread by and to others, one by one, to folks from all parties.

If those who are already

If those who are already informed do not try to change things. What does it matter what we believe? I want government to shrink, complaining on the internet is not the ultimate solution.

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sure there's complaining

we're all human, but it's also a great place to spread the message, maybe the best. the people (influenced by libertarian thinking?) believed that war with syria was a bad idea, and so it didn't happen. see how that works?

Why bother electing good

Why bother electing good people, when the bad ones chicken out once in a blue moon? Something like that?

;)

I still think electing Liberty Candidates is not a bad thing.

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of course it's not a bad thing at all

but one has to scratch their head giving the collins/bellows story a CLOSE investigation, not just the sound bites. see the great ben swanns piece on it here.

"In fact, if he (Rand) were truly looking to endorse a candidate who aligns with his stated beliefs on indefinite detention of U.S. citizens, drone strikes, NSA spying, whistleblower protection, and no more bailouts, Sen. Paul arguably should have endorsed the Democratic candidate."
-Ben Swann

http://www.dailypaul.com/317790/exclusive-did-rand-paul-endo...

Doesn't that come to the same thing? The question then is why?

Perhaps the inroads made by the RP delegates were used to ginger the other neo-con Republicans to get involved in the process and eventually to out-vote the RP people. That is one possibility.

There is another one. The RP foreign policy message has never been popular with the grass roots Republicans. This is why Rand Paul and the Campaign for Liberty have soft pedalled that aspect of RP's presentation and are looking more and more like the neo-cons they want to replace.

However, the liberty message is made from whole cloth and cannot be subdivided. The end the Fed, sound money, free markets, bring the troops home, downsize the Federal government, download power to the States and the People...are all one piece.

Trying to cut them up or water them down as Rand Paul has done, followed in doing so no doubt by many of those who went into the belly of the beast, has simply drained the strength from the message. Perhaps many RP followers who knew this became discouraged and as you say "stopped showing up".

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

I'll tell you one thing, here

I'll tell you one thing, here in Texas a lot of us are more focused on getting local candidates elected. Than we are on taking over the local GOP. Foreign policy is a very small issue in local politics, 90%+ of elected officials have no say on it. A lot of the more mainstream Tea Party types are with us on lots of State Issues. I think the real fight is in the State Legislatures, besides State Reps are the future U.S Congressmen.

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Ron Paul re: the real fight

"We are in the middle of an intellectual revolution"
http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2013/...

“I have many friends in the

“I have many friends in the libertarian movement who look down on those of us who get involved in political activity,” but “eventually, if you want to bring about changes … what you have to do is participate in political action.” -CONGRESSMAN Ron Paul

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/ron-pauls-pa...

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That was from 2008.

That was from 2008. Here is a statement from him this year:
“I do not like politics at all. I think both parties are Keynesian economists, and support positions that I do not like,” said Paul.
http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05election/2012/09/04/ron-paul-say...

"Believe me, the intellectual revolution is going on, and that has to come first before you see the political changes. That's where I'm very optimistic."
Ron Paul

Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/r/ronpaul440686.htm...

Notice the difference in tone?

I see the difference in tone

But the message is the same

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I don't see a difference in

I don't see a difference in tone. He said all along that he didn't like politics and that both parties are bad. I think one of the best ways to effect intellectual change is by being actively involved in the groups making decisions. If you never make it anywhere you still spread ideas to a lot of people, some of which go on to the top. If you make it really far, but still don't win, like Dr. Paul, you get a million dollar soapbox. Either way, many people who ignore or fight you will remember what you said years later, and when the dam breaks, they might just think about how right you were.

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No difference whatsoever, of

No difference whatsoever, of course you need the people to agree with you on some things before you can change things politically. Of course he dislikes politics, but he still ran for office many times. And I am glad he did. And he still supports and endorses candidates. He wants the government out of our lives, and being an ostrich is not the way to make that happen.

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we're going around in circles

this quote very much appeals to me and is not advocating being an ostrich.

"Believe me, the intellectual revolution is going on, and that has to come first before you see the political changes. That's where I'm very optimistic."
Ron Paul

Stonewall, have the last word please.

Both of you are correct, imo.

The message has to spread all over this country AND good people must seek local offices. Change isn't going to happen overnight. Change isn't going to happen at all, if we give up our efforts on many fronts.