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Video : Oath Keepers Abandoned Bundy Ranch, Stewart Rhodes Not Allowed Back.

WTF? What happened here? If true this is bull!


http://youtu.be/1wXHdtPDpNY



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Going by go213mph's post

Going by go213mph's post which was from Elias Alias from Oath Keepers, as well as from what Stewart's video -posted by ctiger2- implies, the Oathkeepers took in -as donation for the Bundy Incident- over $40,000 and they -the Oathkeepers- gave the Bundy's a check for $12,500. This leaves a minimum of $27,500 left. Oathkeepers spent about $10,000 or so, on food and port-a-potties and getting people to Nevada. All of the equipment they bought, with the exception of some AR and AK magazines, appears to need to be returned to Oathkeepers. The Brandon guy in the video seemed to even want the Bundy's to return a FLiR which Steward then said he gave it to them(the Bundy's) to keep. So, all-in-all it appears that Oathkeepers is keeping $10,000 or more which was donated explicitly for the Bundy situation, plus the Oathkeepers seem to be keeping some of the equipment purchased for use at the Bundy camp with the money donated to the Bundy situation.

There is an easy solution to

There is an easy solution to the question "where did the money go", get a financial audit every year. The accounting profession may not have standards completely hammered out for statements on this type of organization, but a CPA could do a complete set financial statements, including notes, that would clear up so much and cut down on the finger pointing. Every political group should do this, C4L, campaigns, all of them.

Follow the Money

..find the fraudsters...here's one such case:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/12/27/282381/

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

http://youtu.be/RiAiDvyOakQ


http://youtu.be/RiAiDvyOakQ

Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws - Mayer Amschel Rothschild

Video Has Been Removed by the User? Same message when I tried

watching it on youtube. I am very curious what they had to say in this video.

A.Hansen

Blah,blah,blah,blah....

...fifty-something minutes of it?

The "hero introductions"....an all-too-long-windbag response.

I liked this "comment" from "knotagain";and I quote:

"Lets see "Stuart".....
30,000 - yes thirty thousand members in Oathkeepers at $40.00 membership dues per year.........1.2 million!!!!
Somebody's living VERY large and then asking for donations?
As of a few months ago I "was" a member - no more.
I am still receiving emails that my "dues" are "due".......
Your sucking tit Stuart, how about an audit?
Or are you the Federal Reserve of Oathkeepers?
Had enough, you're just a lip flapper."

Kinda says it all, don't it?

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Blah blah blah? Regarding an armed standoff with the feds?

What would excite you? Snakes On A Plane? A tornado full of sharks attacking a small town?

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

BIRDS

...how about that?

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Hi Smudge Pot!

Did you watch the videos? It's not about the armed standoff per se. It's about an alleged traitor in the midst of it all. What the truth is, I really don't know.

Looks to me like too many people in bed with too many other people in this world. Who can you trust these days? All I know is that we have to stick together, stay focused, and not get divided over the splitting of hair kind of tactics our enemies love to see us argue about. The Michael Corleone approach is better than the Sonny Corleone approach, especially in this case.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

Yeah I'm checking them out as I do chores

Charlie Foxtrot all right.

I'm hearing things that are typical to "volunteer efforts". This is more effective than any tool the Feds have to bring against us. But it seems to work as effectively against this as it does leftist stuff like OWS. Same types of name calling, accusations, disinfo, etc.

I'm wondering what is the authority coming from the Bundy family? It seems these volunteers are left to argue amongst themselves as to who's in charge, what the priorities are and most of all, what's the long term strategy going forward. That's a problem.

I liked the fellow who said we don't really need special forces operators, families camping out are sufficient to deter Fed over-reaction. What happens if they call it Bundy Ranch Camp And RV Park? How about an arts and crafts villiage? Seems to me all alternatives are not PRESENTLY being explored.

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

loving this

Smudge, they should put you in charge! (Of hospitality anyway) . I hope the Bundy RV Park just takes off. Patriots can have a true adventure vacation by camping out there. HEE.

Vickie

Maybe you'd want to check Ira's post:

http://www.dailypaul.com/317794/oath-keepers-and-stewart-rho...

You appear to agree with him and can add more insight.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

I "Hung" With a "Bunch" of These Guys

...last summer.
Part of a support group on a ride to Oklahoma AND Texas, from NY,and back.....extending my "full-fledged" support in many ways.

Through the rain...tornado country...threats from "rival" MC Clubs.

Legal issues prevent me from going further, but their "fearless leader" didn't even bother with a "courtesy call" when I was hospitalized, later that summer.
I did "re-visit" the page you recommended, here's my response there:
http://www.dailypaul.com/comment/3396041

"No Man Left Behind"...is just words for some.
I hope the rest of them see the light.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

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Danton.

There are/were to keepers of oats here at the DP
I asked them this question(as I heard a report of them actively
helping the FEDS catch 2 other keepers.
Did the oatkeepers help the FEDS catch 2 other members? One being the july4th patriot...I forget the others name..sorry
But both times i asked,that question went unanswered,and has to this day
I do not trust them,will not stand with them,nor pay a tribute to them
D

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

Deacon, you know others that this has happened to?

This is the first I've heard of july4thpatriot

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

deacon's picture

remembered another

Scheafer Cox. If you want interesting,youtube Michael hollingsworth,this guy
will leave a very bad taste in your mouth
D

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

Scheafer Cox was a client of Stewart Rhodes???

Is this what you are saying?

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

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Ira

From what I have been told,Cox was a part of them oatkeepers,to what extent,I do not know..I took it to mean he was a member.
My info came from one who knows him,was his friend,and stood with him.
I have many militia friends,the one who gave me this lives in AK.
The info from the feds is almost a mirror to what happened to the Hutarees
at the feds hands..meaning trumped up charges,planning to kill cops..try,try again?
I was happy when you mentioned rhodes is a member here,I went back and found
where I asked him about hollingsworth and Cox,well,that pointed question was never answered by him

http://www.dailypaul.com/253131/watch-out-for-oathkeepersorg...

http://www.dailypaul.com/271586/alertgerman-troops-on-our-so...

http://www.dailypaul.com/237874/how-a-veteran-oath-keeper-wo...
Plus I asked 3 additional times,and got nowhere
D

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

Deacon, thanks for that. The more I research the sicker I get.

At one time Stewart said to me that at the very least Oath Keepers is a pretty good Psy-op. But he said it in a way that could be interpreted both ways, as an op against the govt too, to scare them into thinking their employees/agents/soldiers can turn on them. But now looking back on all my experiences with Stewart I'm thinking otherwise...

I hope I am wrong and Stewart is just a massive fcuk up.

If anyone is on the Oath Keepers list they should be more than a little concerned. The government always likes to build lists of the resistance

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Thanks DEACON!

Charles Dyer was set-up by an ex-wife who was losing custody of her child due to irresponsible behavior alleged by her husband.

He was the USMC liasion for Oathkeepers, but not a member.
After beating a trumped charge of child rape (his daughter), the Feds "found" a grenade launcher in his home.
REMEMBER RANDY WEAVER?...yeah.
Rhodes used the trial to gain notoriety, from what I can gather, and has been accused of abandoning him when he really needed help.
http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/the-post-convictio...
quote:
"All the good supporters who pitched in and sent real money to the Dyer family deserve a explanation about why this attorney was chosen!"
FOLLOW THE MONEY....thanks Deacon

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

He did the same thing to me too

I had 3 federal lawsuits and Stewart went dark for 2 months leading up to depositions. Then withdrew on the day of depositions. These were federal lawsuits and those courts don't eff around. Stewart has been repeatedly admonished by the court for his behavior yet he still has his law license.

I spent 8 good years fighting the good fight trying to root out corruption in my small town, only to get sunk by Stewart Rhodes.

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

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Strange,just strange

The charge of rape was what got him behind bars.
The 2 reports I read stated the FEDS found a rocket launcher,which was actually a flaregun,and the other said,it was an airsoft.But with each case,it didn't stick) So the old fall back was brought forth again,and that was raping a child..but again,without a shred of evidence,such as DNA left behind
Reminds me of the hutaree's,the FEDS couldn't figure out if what they owned were auto rifles or shotguns,and these are the experts leading?
OK,earlier i mentioned 2,remembered only one(still the case)
And you brought up Randy Weaver,so that is 3 then
Thanks,my good friend
D

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

Whoa! That's pretty damning.

No wonder Ira is upset with that guy! If that is his MO, we'd best distance ourselves from Stewart Rhodes. (Certainly seems like there was more than one opportunist working on Dr. Paul's campaign.)

Hey, Ira! You've been vindicated! Down voters were wrong!

Thanks, Danton and deacon!

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

I don't feel vindicated

Stewart is still out there doing what he does.

I'd like to know how many other people he's done this to. And I'd like to see Oath Keepers replace him with someone who has integrity.

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Nice Catch Nonna!

..yes Mr. Rhodes was riding the bandwagon also, along with Jesse and those like him.
After spending about 4 hrs with John B. Wells and Jim Fetzer, this much is obvious.
The deep-seated widespread corruption of institutions, and organizations is decades old.....DECADES!
Perhaps you've contributed to some, say WWP or Wounded Warriors?
Check out the Top-Heavy "Payola" List of THAT organization....and the many "drones from DAV, VFW, American Legion.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/12/27/282381/

The smell of money......and the cockroaches come out posing as saviors.
Forgive my skepticism, but these militiamen don't have nearly the amount of "juice" that Rhodes has, yet they've done so much more.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

If You're Gonna Downvote?

..at least have the balls to confront me.

Just like an "Oaf-Keeper"....

The one I refer to in my "personal adventure" didn't have the balls either....."Hero"...Hah!..."Oath-Keeper" Hah!

I'm siding with Ira on this issue.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

heard both sides

and I would give more credibility to the what I just heard on this oath-keeper video.

It is a shame this in fighting is happening.

peAce

Liberty = Responsibility

Thanks for posting the other side of the story.

So they didn't leave because of the drone threat. It was the crazy militia guys in the camp?

Don't know if I should shake my head or laugh. But I am glad that this is the biggest drama they are facing right now. It could be a whole lot worse.

One other thing- they said that certain individuals DID threaten with guns in a couple of different situations. More serious than I thought.

I haven't had time to watch the video yet

Did he blame the militia guys???

If so, that's exactly what he did to Adam Kokesh when he threw Adam under the bus for being an anarchist, something I heard Stewart claim he was several times in our phone conversations.

Anarchists, militia, what's next Stewart, Constitutionalists?

I hope people are waking up

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

" they said that certain individuals DID threaten..."

...."THEY" said....
...."STEWART" said.....was that from his hotel room?

Oathkeepers:Bundy Ranch Crew
Tea Party(GOP):Paul Supporters (real Tea Party)

Follow the money.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!