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Kramatorsk Ukrainians run off Military TODAY!

‘Fascists! Off to Kiev!’: Outraged Kramatorsk locals chase off Ukrainian military (VIDEO)

http://rt.com/news/156628-kramatorsk-residents-ukrainian-mil...

Just posted at 6pm PST.

"Residents of the eastern Ukrainian city of Kramatorsk have lashed out at troops entering the city’s streets with outrage and insults. The soldiers were supposed to be "liberating the people from pro-Russian terrorists,” according to the Kiev government."

We all know the TRAGEDY that happened this weekend in ODESSA, UKRAINE with over 46 men who died, of which, 31 died from smoke inhalation & burning to death, as a result of the RIGHT SECTOR NEO-NAZI group of men who chased the UNARMED Odessa boys into the Trade Union Building and who blocked the main door to keep them from leaving, so they would die in the fire!
http://rt.com/news/156624-odessa-victims-protest-burnt/

This whole mess is an utter OUTRAGE, and should be on the FRONT PAGE OF DAILY PAUL. This is a US-instigated COUP with the footprints & evidence all over the place that Victoria Nuland & Geoffrey Pyatt planned & plotted it & appointed the new "leaders", along with the White House.

Our government is complicit in the WAR CRIMES in Ukraine! Obama, Biden, John Kerry, Victoria Nuland, Geoffrey Pyatt, the CIA Director John Brenna, etc. all have BLOOD on their hands, and now this! 10 more died today. 31 died a horrible death at the hands of these neo-Nazi criminals, and according to ARSEN AVOKOV, the Interior Minister criminal, it's "not going to stop"!

Arsen Avakov, appointed Minister of Internal Affairs, an Armenian and avid supporter of Yulia Tymoshenko, he was charged on 31 January 2012 with illegally transferring land and he was put on the international wanted list of Interpol on 21 March 2012.

Many other US-appointed Neo-Nazi Right Sector men who are reportedly responsible for the Odessa Massacre are extremely violent and dangerous men:

Oleh Tyahnybok, neo-Nazi Svoboda leader, now one of the most powerful figures in the country
Dmytro Yarosh, Right Sector neo-Nazi commander, now second-in-command of the National Defense and Security Council
Andriy Parubiy, co-founder of the fascist Social National Party, now the new top commander of the National Defense and Security Council.
Ihor Tenyukh, member of neo-Nazi Svoboda party, now the Minister of Defense—Just ousted on 3/25/14 after Muzychko was killed—now Right Sector is attacking Kiev
Oleksandr Sych, member of neo-Nazi Svoboda, now is one of three Vice Prime Ministers
Oleg Makhnitsky, member of neo-Nazi Svoboda, now is the Prosecutor-General (Attorney General), and has immediately set out to indict the leaders of Crimea who do not want to live under the new order in Kiev. He is, as evidenced from the Odessa Massacre, bent on committing crimes against humanity in other towns!

This weekend has turned BLOODY & VIOLENT. Russia has not stepped in---yet, but they had said they would. They have condemned the US for it being the cause of all this violence, as well they should.

We need to call our Congressmen & Senators and COMPLAIN. We have to do it. Who cares if they don't do anything!

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Paul Craig Roberts article---has anyone read it?

It's posted both on Lew Rockwell and Infowars websites. I find it quite pessimistic, almost as if he wants Russia to cower before the US, yet I can't inwardly believe he would want that.

It seems he feels Russia is in a dilemma. I agree. They are as afraid of nuclear war as we are, or any war for that matter. They have to realize by now that the US & WEST are bent on actual destruction of Russia, as we know it. Putin is not popular with the US.

Putin kicked out the Oligarchs. He booted out the NGOs. He refused to be a part of the EU. For the last 4 years the Russian economy has grown at 8% per year. Putin has an 85% approval rating. Obama is far down the toilet on that score, right along with our Congress. Putin stopped the US from bombing Syria & Iran. No, the US & UK literally HATE Putin.

This was my response to PC ROBERTS:

Your analysis is far too pessimistic. You don’t think Germany would stop the US
from launching a nuclear war? Are you kidding me? Give me a break. It’s as if you want Russia to cower in the corner & let her be taken over by these US/UK billionaire imperialistic psychopaths!

Could Russia announce to the world that they have to come in and protect their “relatives” in eastern Ukraine? Yes. That they will stay until eastern Ukraine votes on the Referendums that Kiev has refused them the right to do? Yes. After that, Russia could leave. IF some regions want to join Russia, could Russia consider it at the time? Yes. But, since BOTH the US & KIEV are refusing to protect their own people, then, could Russia say they have no choice, no matter how the Western Media spins it? Yes.

Could PRESIDENT PUTIN make a "world announcement" for all journalists from all countries, including the US? Yes.

The CLOCK is TICKING now.

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If the Russians & Putin read Dr. Roberts article, they may think differently. We must all pray about what is happening. It is TOTAL evil, and we all could suffer from the actions of our own government. It seems no matter what Russia does, the US is demonizing them. So~~~

Well said.

I agree. I can't really add anything to this. I think Putin is in the same Role JFK was during the Cuban Missile Crisis. I think he is being very careful not to incur blame for what may be about to happen. They know they are being set up. God help us.

John F

The only solution to the Ukrainian Crisis

On Paul Craig Roberts' website, I found an article penned by Finian Cunningham, a guest columnist.

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/05/04/putin-send-troops...

"Putin Should Send Troops Into Ukraine"

"With a death toll of at least 50 over the weekend inflicted by the Western-backed unelected, fascist regime in Kiev, has the time come for Russian President Vladimir Putin to send his troops into eastern Ukraine?"

"If Russia intervenes now, there will be howls of Western assertions that Moscow’s “sneaky plot” is finally being executed....But regardless of Western propaganda accusing Russia of malfeasance and in the face of Western threats of punitive response, Moscow should act with boldness based on the facts."

"The neo-Nazi paramilitaries and their political leaders who usurped power in Kiev have gone on to unleash a campaign of terror against ethnic Russians in the east and south of the country, and anyone else who opposes the regime’s power grab."

"The fact is that people were massacred – including several others in the eastern city of Slavyansk – by Western-backed Kiev forces. Eyewitnesses in Odessa say that when people jumped from windows to escape the blaze they were “finished off” by neo-Nazis on the ground who had minutes before set the building alight with petrol bombs."

"But Putin should not be blackmailed by baseless lies when peoples’ lives are being threatened by a Western-backed fascist cabal and their murderous paramilitaries. Besides, more and more people around the world, including the US and European public, can see through the sordid tissue of lies that the Western governments and their pathetic news media have been peddling against Russia over the Ukraine crisis. The present situation resembles the previous covert US-led operation in South Ossetia in 2008 when NATO backed Georgian troops tried to destabilize that country, a Russian ally. Russia acted decisively then, sent in its troops and routed the NATO plot. And Washington backed down."

"If Putin takes action, he can be sure that world public opinion is on his side. Washington will find that it is a loser, and deserves it. It has nothing on its side but malign and negative forces.

Seventy years ago, Russia defeated fascism in Europe. It is time to deliver that honorable blow again."

If you want it to all make sense listen to

this. It explains the US foreign policy over the last 20 years which was laid out in the book "The Grand Chessboard". It all started with 911 and has been progressing as planned every since.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-XIeb879SY

Mariupol deteriorating situation

Check out this thread for more info on Mariupol, Ukraine where situation has deteriorated very fast.

http://www.dailypaul.com/318193/privatbank-building-burns-to...

Immoral funding of Military Industrial Complex by Federal Reserve and US taxation system must stop!!!! End illegal/unconstitutional wars! Preserve US currency!
http://facebook.com/NoPropagandaZone
http://twitter.com/the_chiefe71

tag this as an original

and it'll get more bounce

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

Thanks...

I did. This whole subject is so important. RT has had very good discussions on their "Crosstalk" show. It's on one of the tabs called "Shows". Check some of those shows out. It's not crazy-making like our shows with 4 guests on in the US.

Worked

Now you might get picked up by other sites and we continue the ball rolling. We lost sight of it in the Bundy thing.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

Not totally lost sight

There had been postings about this, like updates I was making couple of weeks ago here. Perhaps I should've marked thread like that as DP Original as well.

http://www.dailypaul.com/316843/locals-in-donetsk-oblast-cha...

Yes, things are dangerously spiraling out of control very fast. This is all by design. None of these events are by accident. What's different (compared to Iraq/Lybia) is the severity of danger we're now being exposed to. Messing with Russia is an extremely dangerous fool's game. Can't believe we're living in heady times like these, subsidizing the evil wargames with our taxes.

Immoral funding of Military Industrial Complex by Federal Reserve and US taxation system must stop!!!! End illegal/unconstitutional wars! Preserve US currency!
http://facebook.com/NoPropagandaZone
http://twitter.com/the_chiefe71

I think you're right, Our government is complicit in the....

WAR CRIMES in Ukraine!

SO IS RUSSIAN leaders, Putin ect.

Ukraine is being picked apart by vultures on both sides.

Lets say a prayer for the people of Ukraine, for true independence from tyranny, west or east.

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"Take hold of the future or the future will take hold of you." -- Patrick Dixon

Yes, our government is complicit, but

I don't believe Russia or Putin are at all.

Putin is supported by the Russian population with an 85% approval rating. It is amazing the lying our Media has done. It was the US that started this, that instigated the COUP. Why? Because they were enraged that Ukraine (Yanukovych) didn't sign up for the EU & NATO, and BOOM the next day the COUP happened, thanks to Victoria Nuland and her $5 billion she greased the Kiev wheel there with. A second motive to do this was that the US wanted to use the surrogate NATO so they could put their missiles and tanks on the border pointing toward Moscow.

Why did they hate Putin? Because Putin never joined the financially destructive EU. Putin kicked out the United States' NGOs. Putin kicked out the OLIGARCHS. And, Putin wanted to make friends and allies with Ukraine, since in Ukraine there are many relatives of the Russian people there. Plus, they would have all benefitted. The financial deal Putin offered Ukraine was a better deal, but the USA would have none of that. The US & psychopathic ELITES want it all. They want Russia, its resources and lands, then next China. Look out.

Putin kicked out the middlemen

When Russia, took control of the oil companies from Oligarchs, A Rothchild claimed a 25% stake in the Russian State Run Oil company.

Those Oligarchs were middlemen for the real Oligarchs, at least one of them still have a 25% stake in the state run Oil company.

In 2003 Khodorkovsky's shares in Yukos passed to Jacob Rothschild, Russia didn't seize those shares.

We have those same type of middlemen managers in the US.

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"Take hold of the future or the future will take hold of you." -- Patrick Dixon

Interesting

can you send me the link for verification?

People, go to RT.com

and please start following what is going on closely.

Obviously, our own Media is BLATANTLY LYING. What is happening in Ukraine could ultimately happen to us all--someday. These poor people just wanted a Referendum like the Crimeans, but they didn't have the protection of Russia.

Will Russia come to its aid, as they said they would, or not?