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Crowdfunding campaign to produce free energy devices

I noticed HopeGirl's project (to Fix The World) a few weeks prior to March 25, 2014, which was when they posted the open source plans to create this device, based on Tesla's patent.

Today, I saw a comment on her site (see below) from a member who is building two devices, if funding comes through in the next 15 days:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/very-soon-free-energy-you...

HopeGirl's site:

http://hopegirl2012.wordpress.com/2014/04/03/if-you-build-it...

They have a forum as well:

http://be-do.com/index.php/en/forum/welcome-mat

I helped out prior to their release of the plans, and have also just contributed to this. I know some people will say I'm throwing my money away, and perhaps nothing comes of this; I have hope.



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Love that quote

I hadn't heard it before. It seems to hold true for me, at least.

Just open the box and see

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I love the juxtaposition between your signature and comment

And, it's not being done "in a garage", they're currently in Morocco and have achieved over-unity.

The parts for one device cost about $6,000, so it's not cheap, nor is it a "simple" arrangement of magnets and wires.

I haven't studied fusion much, so I can't speak to that. Cheers!

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It is cheap.

IF the ROI is theoretically FREE.(you could make infinite x your investment) Man do you think before you type. If I buy a car that gets 100000000 mpg and I pay 35k for it - are you going to say well the average 15k car gets 20mpg, what am I paying for here?

I don't believe the claims at all but this is one of them: it's free energy. So therefor investing 1$ should be like winning the infinite lottery. Just thinking of analogies for this is confusing me, becuase there is no many things people believe are free on this earth enough for them to fall for it. But since most people on this earth do not know or use physics free energy is a possibility becuase they don't realize the relationship between moving particles.

Well, it aint cheap or

Well, it aint cheap or simple, like I said. I have read many many stories on free energy, which is why I think the way I do.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

I would be very skeptical

First off anyone who claims "tesla" should be suspect. Tesla is one of those catch all people who you can justify things by saying he did it. Probably because hes so mysterious. many scams have been based of "tesla." Second of all, anytime someone says "quantum" there generally Bullshitting. Quantum is another catch all word that is used to justify every loony physics idea under the sun.

So the fact that this uses both Tesla and quantum and is making very big claims, makes me 99% sure its a hoax. My guess is that they make money when you call for help building it and have to pay for 300/hour for a skype session with "leading scientist"

I want to be open minded to breakthrough technology but im not sure this is it. Cheers mates, dont invest to much money in this until someone prooves it. (not just a youtube video of someone saying they did it and want to sell you something) Were smarter then this.

Maxwells equations do not take into account longitudinal waves.

These equations ignore everything that happens at ground.

Maxwell derived his eqns. upon the firm conviction the ether is the MEDIUM in which electromagnetic phenomena takes place.

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While I agree with the general sentiment

It's like someone quoting the bible and saying "Even the devil can quote scripture." It doesn't add much value -- is the person quoting the scripture stating that they might be the devil? (And if not, do they understand that interpretation?)

I agree, be skeptical of outrageous claims: they require outrageous evidence. I'm not selling this, I want to see it succeed, which is why I'm sharing it -- with the expectation of some arrows in my back because it is a pioneering effort. Cheers!

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Tesla prooved that maxwells equation is wrong

Also as a society, we come from a limited perspective; brainwash taught to us by the "stress induced" cram and regurgitate de-education system.

We still do not consider dark energy's role in these over unity devices. This is a way to explain them within the confines of the 2nd law of thermodynamics.

People just don't comprehend the power and reach of Big Oil in geopolitics.

If you still consider this not possible. I'd ask you to view the video demostrating and over unity magnetic motor run and disassembled in font of University professors and students.

Magnetic Motor - Delft University of Technology 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvvCqVLBCAU

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Thanks, hadn't seen that one!

Neat that it uses a hammer strike to get it going.

I recall some of the persecution that Tesla encountered, and one of the warnings a goon gave him, "You're trying to destroy the financial system!"

That's not the goal, at all. It will be a side benefit.

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"Free Energy" (aka perpetual motion devices)...

...are frauds. Sorry, dreamers.

Free Energy is a misnomer

I would suggest "Energy Harvester" as more appropriate, or, as TwelveOhOne mentioned, QEG.

A windmill is a "free energy device", as well as solar panels. These are devices, that when constructed, produce more power than they use to create that power. Isn't that the definition of "over unity"?

The wind for a windmill comes from far away, as well as the photons for a solar panel. Yes, we know where the energy for these devices is harvested from, but, does not knowing the energy source automatically mean the energy does not exist? Would a cave man know what drives a solar panel, or would it appear "free energy" to him? These things were unknown to us at one time.

Vacuum energy fluctuations are a well understood phenomenon in the Standard Model, could this be tapped? That device would have every appearance of a "free energy device", wouldn't it?
What about the supposed "dark energy"? Standard Model suggests most of the universe is actually dark matter and dark energy.
Wouldn't a device that harvested "dark energy" appear to be "over unity"?

There are thousands of inventors working in these areas. At MIT, they recently created what they call "an energy harvester" which recharges cell phone batteries using wifi power siphoned from the air. If you charge your cell phone from that, it's "free energy" isn't it? Especially if it's not your wifi.
Another name for these devices might be "energy converter".

Dismissing ideas simply on the basis of "free energy" and "over-unity" being bandied about is at ones own peril, IMO. Individual devices can certainly be dismissed on their own merits, most of the time. But, what about when they can't be? You might miss something because someone dropped a word on it.

The earth itself has a very large electric and magnetic field, could that be tapped somehow? Lightning is visible and uncontrolled evidence of this field. In fact, a wire extended high (several hundred feet) into the sky, even on a clear day, allows a motor to be run across the electric differential. Since it takes more power to hold the wire up than is generated, this device is not "over unity", but, what if a way were found to hold the wire up without power? A device that efficiently harvests earth's electric field could be made, and would be viewed by some as "free energy".

Just open the box and see

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Space elevator is one such way

Once we have refined carbon nanotubes, we'll be able to create a long thread running from the Earth's surface to far up in space, tethered on the other end by a weight.

One use of this will be to drastically reduce fuel costs.

Another use, though, will be what you mentioned, harvesting the potential difference between the top and the bottom.

It looks like "free energy" and that was the headline that I used because it's the easiest to understand: "I'm getting more than I spent", but it doesn't mean it's perpetual motion.

I just watched a video of their demonstration in Morocco from a few days ago, obtaining over unity from this device; it is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7--G5qSDag

Thanks for the bump and conversation. Cheers!

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Interesting conversation

that shouldn't be derailed because of a few media maligned words.

I like the title, it is catchy, and realistically descriptive. A device that harvests energy that would be otherwise untapped, does produce "free energy", in a way.

Niagara falls is "free energy". The water would be falling, whether it's tapped for energy or not. Though, even that isn't endless, the falls will dry up one day.

The space elevator was a pipe dream relegated to sci-fi and "free energy" circles back in the 70's. It actually could be possible. Work in carbon nano tubes is progressing rapidly, and promises to revolutionize material sciences. The electric potential along the length of such an elevator should be enough to run the elevator, if not much more.

The video was cool. That's a lot of people who believe that was a significant step. I will have to look into what they did there. Thanks.

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You are correct

We cannot have perpetual motion in a static system.

But perhaps we're getting the energy from outside of the system?

Perhaps another universe is losing energy to some unknown cause. They fight back! Sounds similar to Fringe. :)

I used the colloquial term "free energy device" rather than its proper term, Quantum Energy Generator (or QEG), as it is more accessible. But you're right, this is not perpetual motion, and the source of this energy may run out some day.

But if it works, it seems a lot more efficient than most of what we're currently using, and that's a big improvement, even if it's not really "free".

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let's not base an energy system on unknowns, ok?

btw, quite a business model:
http://www.fixtheworldproject.net/ftw-qeg-consulting.html

Consultation via skype: For any questions related to the QEG that can be answered over phone or email.
Cost: $300 for up to one hour, $5 per minute over one hour. Payment due at time of booking.

"I give you 'open source blueprints' that claim to do something impossible, then charge you to help debug why it doesn't."

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Unknowns make the world go 'round

One of my favorite analogies is that a sales person might not know anything about the inner working of the telephone, or the packet switching that goes on while conversing with someone else, the networking required, etc. But they can still make use of it to benefit their organization by making sales calls.

I see this similarly. I might not understand the physics of it, but I do have hope that this will happen. It already did, 100 years ago, and was suppressed.

They avoided death by making the plans open source.

I'm reminded of a quote by George Bernard Shaw, "People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it."

And a couple others, "A mind is like a parachute, it works best while open", and the contrast, "It's good to have an open mind, but not so open your brains fall out."

And, why not: "I need trepanation like a need a hole in my head." (Searching that, perhaps it will help the concussion? Weird, synchronicity, it seems to be happening a lot lately.)

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"They avoided death by making

"They avoided death by making the plans open source"

I don't understand.

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Found it, & a link describing others including Dr. Wilhelm Reich

The first article from their site that I read, which includes some of this information in the text as well as a link for further reading:

http://hopegirl2012.wordpress.com/2014/02/11/qeg-we-are-seri...

The further reading page, which mentioned Dr. Wilhelm Reich and the persecution he received at the hands of the government due to his research into orgone:

http://www.theorionproject.org/en/suppressed.html

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this Wilhelm Reich?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/atlas_obscura/2013/08/19/see_wilh...

Who thought orgasms released magical energy that could cure cancer and all the world's power problems, including bad weather?

Whose "Orgone Infant Research Center" had allegations of sexual child abuse?

Good luck with that.

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Yes, that Wilhem Reich

You remind me of Cardinal Richelieu:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal_Richelieu

He wrote "If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him."

Einstein and Feynman helped create the atomic bomb.

Thanks for the bump.

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Alright,

I read your link and don't see where it mentions people that have been killed as a result of releasing "free energy" concepts.

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It says right there that Wilhelm Reich died in prison

I would call that being killed for his research.

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I'm trying to stay with you,

But I still don't see how a 60 year old man, convicted of fraud, dies in prison of heart failure, and it equates to "being killed" Is this the only instance you have record of?

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Not the only one, see

http://www.dailypaul.com/comment/3401483

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Many scientists have died after demonstrating such devices

After showing an "over unity" device, many scientists have been ridiculed, had their careers destroyed, and/or were killed.

They talked about this aspect, when I read about the group prior to March 25th (when they released the plans). I'll see if I can find it for you.

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Do you have the names of those scientists?

I'm curious about this

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Google is your friend

Or, LMGTFY: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_energy_suppression

To be clear, what I am saying is: I stated a fact. There are scientists who have been suppressed or worse. You asked me to Google this for you. So, I did.

There are many "References" in that wikipedia page to whet your appetite.

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No doubt.

Many brilliant ideas have been suppressed, for various reasons by various entities. I just haven't heard of anyone that faced death as a result of coming out with new technology.

I reviewed your Wikipedia Link. It mentions three people by name who theorists claim were murdered or had their work suppressed.

Eugene Mallove:

On April 20, 2012, the Norwich Bulletin stated that: "An ongoing murder trial came to an abrupt halt Friday when Chad Schaffer, of Norwich, decided to accept an offer of 16 years in prison, pleading guilty to the lesser charge of first-degree manslaughter in the 2004 beating death of Eugene Mallove." Mallove had just evicted Schaffer's parents, and he was cleaning the evicted house when Schaffer arrived and confronted him.[1]

Thomas Moray:

In the 1930s, Thomas Henry Moray reported that he and his family had been threatened and shot at on several occasions and his lab ransacked to stop his free energy research and public demonstrations.

He died at the age of 82.

Stanley Meyer:

After an investigation, the Grove City police went with the Franklin County coroner report that ruled that Meyer, who had high blood pressure, died of a cerebral aneurysm.[1]

None of the methods proposed by these men are valid anyway. They all turned out to be frauds.

That being said, why would anyone want to suppress something that doesn't work?

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The many humanity saving

The many humanity saving ideas suppressed to keep the status quo is the point, that death may have been the method of suppression is a consequence. We should have been to the moon and back as tourists by now, save for all this expletive suppression.

Wood Burning Stoves

Always thought it would be easy to disregard gov't propaganda about how dangerous wood stoves are and use this as a cheap energy source for heating homes in the winter. Anyhow, so many things we could be doing on this front.