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let's not forget that the boy

let's not forget that the boy resisted arrest after he ran over his tail! You can see him resist as he is being drug through the yard.

PS LMAO great post


_paid_ administrative leave, that is.

I love cats

That cat kicks ass.

Time to take that cat out to

Time to take that cat out to have a steak dinner.

Make that Tuna or Salmon

so sez me kittehs.

Galatians 5:1
It is for FREEDOM that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.

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Hey I just saw this video on

Hey I just saw this video on News 13 nightly news out of Albuquerque, NM. Kitty's name is Tara. Wow now I'm seeing it on Fox too.

It is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. – Mark Twain


What would Cesar Milan do? Kill the dog or rehabilitate it?

-Matthew Good

Notice the Body Language

The dog saw the threatening machine wheels underneath the car. It was the doggy version of Godzilla. Eyes and ears--should have been nose.

By the time he came around the car to "repel the attack" of the bicycle, he had already reached a 10 of excitement.

Too bad the Dog Whisperer wasn't called in to teach the dog not to fear the machine and the boy not to fear dogs.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

Too bad I wasn't there to put my foot up that dog's hind end.

yup. or kick it's teeth down it's throat.

Galatians 5:1
It is for FREEDOM that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.

The Dog Whisperer

His techniques,("Do not attempt these at home"), if they "work" at all, only induce learned helplessness in the animal. Repressed fear and aggression are still dangerous. His theory about dominance and packs is just hooey that he made up. It has no basis in fact.

The Dog Whisper is a menace. He is obviously a nice guy, and sincere, but a menace nonetheless.

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The Dogs Disagree

If you haven't watched the episodes over and over, you aren't getting what he's doing.

It's all about leadership through trust.

I assume you have no objection to re-channeling aggression? You don't approve of initiating force, violating the property and other rights of others? His technique is beautiful.

It's also an eye-opener to see him teach people to use the same techniques, and to see how many of them leaders of people use.

As with all such communication and leadership skills, they can be used for good or evil.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

Are dogs not pack animals?

Are dogs not pack animals? Is there not an alpha that dominates the pack in the wild? Does a dog's natural instinct subside when they become domesticated?

We rescued two severely mistreated dogs last year. Poor little Lucky was so skinny you could see his spine. It took months working to establish trust and, gasp, dominance. My animals do not run my house. The humans do. Our dominance was not obtained through fear, but calm, stern, assertiveness, with lots of love and a lot more patience.

Dogs need to know that there is a strong, dominate alpha and if there is not, a dog will step up to take that position. That usually spells trouble.

Just my two cents based on my experience living with dogs. Out of curiosity, how would you recommend rehabilitating dogs?

How to rehabilitate?

Of course the answer is "it depends."

With my two dogs, it took a year of daily work to condition away their aggression toward other dogs. When I rescued them, they went to 11 immediately if any other dog was in sight. Now they like other dogs, and happily play with them. They are not conditioned to be "submissive." The regimen is outlined in a book called Feisty Fido. I recommend it.

To get them over being afraid of people was easy. I gave people, kids especially, treats to feed to the doggies. Now they never meet a human they do not like.

Here they are playing with the neighbor-lady's pitbull/retriever mix.


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No, not pack animals. No, there is no alpha dog.

The wild dog (grey wolf) lives in family units, with a mom, a pop, and offspring that are too young to breed.

The concept of "alpha" was started by L. David Mech, who says he deeply regrets it. The wolves studied were not related and were confined in close proximity. They established a society quite like the ones human prisoners do in such circumstances. Wolves living in the wild in family units do not behave that way.

I have two "wild child" dogs who were extremely dog-aggressive when I rescued them. "Extremely" does not overstate it. You can see them on my Youtube page. www.youtube.com/JiveDadson. Pay particular attention to the video "Thanks Emily."

I have to take them to the groomer right now. I usually do it myself, but they have gotten a bit too furry, and I a bit too lazy.

See you later.

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Thanks for taking the time to

Thanks for taking the time to respond. I enjoyed your videos (your doggies are super cute!) and will check out the book you recommended.

I have a hard time wrapping my mind around the idea of living in a family (aka pack) without the establishment of natural hierarchy. It is my understanding that, usually,wild wolves can only raise one litter of pups at a time. Hence, in large wolf packs it is usually the dominate pair that mates. The other, subordinate, adult wolves help care for the pups.

Even the pups try to establish dominance by using their bodies to block one another from food as a means of establishing rank. They also begin to run in a line in strict pecking order.

The most intelligent, steady one ends up leading the little puppy pack. It has nothing to do with size. I believe that is because the pups discover early that leadership is about doing what’s best for the pack, NOT about power and control. The use of the terminology alpha is all to often associated with the idea of a rigid, force based hierarchy.

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Are like a dog whisperer?
I have 2 wolf/shepard/pit mix dogs,they used to play and be happy,but no longer get along,and try to kill each other.It would be hard to pick which one to get rid of,would you have any suggestions?

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

This is not the thread for it...


Keep them completely isolated from each other for now. Take them to the vet for tests, particularly thyroid function.

When you rule out medical changes, start reading about R+ training, a.k.a. positive reinforcement, a.k.a. clicker training. Think of it as the NAP for humans and dogs. Victoria Stilwell is a good source.

... and now back to your regularly scheduled heroic cat thread.

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I believe there are multiple ways to approach any situation.

It seems you have a good understanding of canine behavior. Cesar seems to understand a certain mechanism that is inherent in the dog. From your point of view, what are the mistakes he makes? I also believe in the results that positive reinforcement produces.

If you have the time.. my beagle/dachshund girl always pulls at the leash. I stop when she does it and move forward when she calms down. After a few seconds she goes back to literally choking herself because I am moving too slow for her. If you have the time, what do you believe is the best next move? Thanks.

-Matthew Good

Well.... okay,

I really do not want to hijack this thread, but okay. Loose leash walking is actually not too difficult, but good timing by the trainer is important. That is always the case, regardless of the desired behavior. The animal must be reinforced immediately when it offers the behavior. That's what the clicker is for. So... The first video is about R+ training in general, and the next is about loose-leash specifically. (BTW, I click with my tongue and gums rather than a clicker device.)


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"Fully half the quotations found on the internet are either mis-attributed, or outright fabrications." - Abraham Lincoln

Watch The Dog Whisperer

It's free on Hulu.

This is a common problem and many episodes address it. I don't even have a dog, and I keep thinking all these police officers need to watch it, rehab a few dogs, and stop shooting them because they're scared.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

Tough Cat! A Cat with

Tough Cat! A Cat with Integrity. Bad dog watch out!

The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good things is my religion. Thomas Paine, Godfather of the American Revolution



I take back all

my comments about the uselessness of cats. Ladies, you get the thumbs up!

i second this comment

i second this comment whole-heartedly

The slogan press on has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race. No person was ever honored for what he received. Honor has been the reward for what he gave.

- Calvin Coolidge

Nothing more efficient

than a cat. The ninjas of the animal world.

someone needs to kill that

someone needs to kill that dog

no no no

someone needs to put that dogs parents in check.

Sure the dog needs to be dealt with, and I believe it has been. But the dog is not the problem. Its behavior is the side effect of something worse. The problem is the way the parents raised him/her.

Dogs Parents ? ? ?

Seriously, you should not refer to the owners this way - sort of morally repugnant to me.

The dog needs a bullet between the eyes.

Sure its not really the dogs fault, it had not been trained properly, so it was just acting natural, looking for a tasty morsel, but its just a dog after all.

It would take too much time and energy to rehab the dog, and there are already way too many dogs on the planet.

Can you imagine how many good things people could do, and how much better place the world would be if they would take the time and money they waste on Dogs and devote that to needy children ?

many people will agree with me on this one

A family's pet is part of the family. That's how it has always been in my family and many others. All my dogs I have considered my children. You may not agree, but I find it morally repugnant and inhuman to not treat living beings with a certain level of dignity and respect. Perhaps the "owners" of that dog didn't treat it like family, so it didn't get any love and thus turned into an aggressive a hole. Just speculating, but i would bet money that is not far from the truth.

that dog has already been killed by the state, or is in line to be. So relax, i guess you can have your "justice"....

I accept that you may not look at dogs the way I do. I am not some kind of animal activist. I eat meat. Granted I stick to ranging cattle and chicken. But lets think logically. What good does it do society to over emphasize the side effect and not try to look at the source of the problem. In this case the "owners/parents/care taker" should be held accountable and people should be focusing on that. DO i think they should go to jail....no. But serious restitution of some kind is in order. Pretty sure you will agree and feel the same way.

At one point in time, dogs were a part of human survival. In some parts of the world they still are. Their children are in NEED of food. For them, I'd say its a pretty wise investment to raise dogs to help you hunt. Never mind all the other good things a dog can bring to a family. Although I will concede, at least here in the US there isn't much need for a utilitarian dog,at least for the average person.

Can you imagine a world where people didn't waste their money on material crap and instead invested in their children and or their community.......Dogs make people happy....if that is the case, is being happy and having a happy family not a worthwhile investment?

I have no doubt that I am in the minority

in this opinion. That is a reflection of the anti-human philosophy so prevalent in the world. in many cases Dogs are taking the place of children for young professional women, and since dogs are relatively easier to care for then children, they are much more convenient.

Many of the "dogs are people" crowd are even rabidly pro-abortion. Vets for dogs is a billion dollar industry, when at the same time, children go with substandard, government subsidized health care. What kind of society favors its pets over the communities children ? Its difficult to justify Hip replacements for Dogs, when there are many older citizens who cannot afford that treatment.

Now I'm not completely heartless towards animals. I despise people who would be needlessly cruel to animals, but people should come first, and I don't think that they do. don't believe me, Consider what would happen if we labeled the dog in the video a terrorist.