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HUGE record breaking dinosaur bone unearthed.

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"The new species are estimated to have been 40 meters in length and 80 tons in weight, surpassing the previous record-holder for the world's largest dinosaur — the Argentinosaurus"



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Tee-hee

You too, huh?

It's amazing how quickly and easily some people on both sides of this issue can lose sight of the principles of freedom when discussing matters of faith. So much for live and let live! So much for anarchism.

Freedom is the ability to do what you want to do.
Liberty is the ability to do what you ought to do.
"Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." 2 Corinthians 3:17

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Its called....

Cognitive dissidence -This is the feeling of uncomfortable tension which comes from holding two conflicting thoughts in the mind at the same time.

Dissonance increases with:

The importance of the subject to us.
How strongly the dissonant thoughts conflict.
Our inability to rationalize and explain away the conflict.

When everything you know is being challenged sometimes you do crazy things. As on here you can see some people get irrational instead of slowing down taking a deep breath and sorting things out.

THE CLASS OF CITIZENS WHO PROVIDE AT ONCE THEIR OWN FOOD AND THEIR OWN RAIMENT, MAY BE VIEWED AS THE MOST TRULY INDEPENDENT AND HAPPY.
James Madison

Yep.

And I like it that you self-corrected.

You started off with "Cognitive dissidence" and later correctly spelled it "dissonance".

Wish more people were as self-correcting as you. :)

Freedom is the ability to do what you want to do.
Liberty is the ability to do what you ought to do.
"Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." 2 Corinthians 3:17

Except Ron Paul's POV is evidence based

Except Ron Paul's point of view is evidence based and founded on reason, YE creationism is anything but. McCain makes false assertions and distorts facts to justify his zealotry, like YE whackos do: I suggest that it is YE WHACKOS that are akind to McCain.

Although their wilful ignorance is pathetic, I can tolerate it but don't ask me to respect it though...

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, an

Ok gimmie the coordinates

So i can slap the stupidity outta you .. plz show me the un-provable evidence of an old earth .. Stupid wackos like you remind me the global warming idiots .. oh yeah proven science, nothin to see here, move along

email me

at manniman84@yahoo.com, I'll give you my coordinates over email (unless there's pvt messages here which I'm not aware of).

plz show me the un-provable evidence of an old earth ..

Start by completing a high school physics course, then move on to more advanced classes, have a solid understanding of quantum theory and GR, AND THEN research the inflation theory and the questions/research regarding that theory. Compare that to the ridiculous creation story in the bible and you won't help but to just laugh at the silly myth in genesis, trust me XD (although anyone with common sense can see the absurdity of it, no need for any advanced sciences for that).

Other than the fact that there's a complete lack of evidence for that myth, I just shake my head at morons that believe that millions and millions of species (current estimates range from 3 to 100 millions), got on a ship and sailed for seven months; as a side note, the ark would have been the biggest ship ever built, being ventilated by a 18 square inch window XD.

I also wonder what the carnivorous animals ate when they got off the ark and during their journey when they spread onto the world, you know seeing as there were very few animals alive (only those that got off the ark actually). I already know your answer to this one: Goddidit , of course.

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, an

Also not just a "pair" of

Also not just a "pair" of each kind

Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.

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There was no reason to take adult versions on board

Juvenile animals were sufficient for the purpose.

The Ark's dimensions per Genesis 6:15 translate to a volume of around 400,000 cubic meters, or about 570 modern railway boxcars.

Ron Paul - Honorary Founding Father

Plenty of room for all the

Plenty of room for all the kinds.... :)

The Electric Universe has a

The Electric Universe has a pretty interesting theory on why ancient animals were so massive. I'll post his presentation where Wal Thornhill explains his theory of how we came into the solar system. Its not a good way to introduce yourself to this theory as it requires you to have familiarized yourself with the Electric Universe theory. Those who don't know anything about plasma cosmology and are still stuck in the flat-earth paradigm, this will probably go right over your head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoY2s3l3c9g&list=UUvHqXK_Hz7...

Pickles me tink

to see folks here looking into the EU stuff. Science that actually fits the evidence - what a concept!

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

Me too!

"Science that actually fits the evidence"....perfectly stated, Fishy!

Yeah :)

This would be the only other place where I would find other people who know about it ! It is the science of the future IMO.

Freedom is a byproduct of acceptance - judge not.

and...

who pays for all these records when they get broken?

:P

I use Blue Wave, but don't expect one of THEIR silly taglines.

If you are a YEC...

If you are a YEC (young earth creationist; thinks the earth is 6-15k years old), then you must conclude that this animal walked the earth some time in the last 6,000 years or so, and just a few thousand years later the bone appears in this fashion.

(No subject)

Prehistoric beasts with man are depicted on petroglyphs and other ancient art.

No feathers on the dinosaur?

There should be feathers.

[F]orce can only settle questions of power, not of right. - Clyde N. Wilson

LOL yes... It does look like

LOL yes... It does look like a chicken... :)

Yes and also in the pre flood

Yes and also in the pre flood age man lived to be 900 years old. Theory is much more oxygen among other things that caused life spans to be much longer. Reptiles never stop growing so in that age they grew much larger.

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No doubt the atmosphere was ideal

in the Beginning, but I think the primary reason we don't live as long now is genetic decay. We each carry tens of thousands of mutations and about a hundred more are piled on with each generation.

If you look at a graph of birth defects since records have been kept, it's obvious that we're headed for extinction. We have perhaps another thousand or so years before global birthrates won't be able to keep up with deaths due to genetic defects.

Ron Paul - Honorary Founding Father

Understand and agree. A

Understand and agree.

A water canopy consisting of vapor (most common interpretation) or ice that surrounded the earth above the troposphere and potentially up through the stratosphere. The earth may have been a bit like todays hyperbaric chamber.

Then God said, "Let there be an expanse in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters." And God made the expanse, and separated the waters which were below the expanse from the waters which were above the expanse; and it was so. And God called the expanse heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day. (Genesis 1:6-8: NASB

You sound like a student of Kent Hovind

The ideas you are presenting sound like those of Kent Hovind. You can also check out "Nephilim Free" on youtube to find some more information on the topic you are presenting.

I do enjoy Mr. Hovind's work.

I do enjoy Mr. Hovind's work. Thank you for the info I will use it. :)

If

If you are an Atheist then you believe this bone evolved from a hydrogen atom millions of years ago ... of course there is NO proof of this either, so it really is another Religion, but a Religion with no explanations just a lot of BS

Whoops, incorrect...

IF you maintain Darwinian evolution... then you find it to be likely true that matter evolved to life and produced such an animal...

But atheism does not inform you on a position on abiogenesis or evolution.

What have you observed in the past or present that makes you

find it "likely true" that matter evolved into life?

Is there any place on earth where that has been observed, recorded and duplicated?

Freedom is the ability to do what you want to do.
Liberty is the ability to do what you ought to do.
"Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." 2 Corinthians 3:17

Hope you're really interested, this post is 5 months old

This is an old post. The topic got onto "atheism and evolution."

What is the point of your question? What point are we trying to address or clarify? Atheism? Religion or a deity? Evolution? The age of the earth?

Let's be specific if you really want to chat.

I'm interested, or I wouldn't have commented.

So can you answer the two questions I posed? I think if a person makes a statement, he/she ought to be able to back it up with some evidence or at least a sound reason. Otherwise, its just useless chatter.

What have you observed in the past or present that makes you find it "likely true" that matter evolved into life?

Is there any place on earth where that (matter evolving into life) has been observed, recorded and duplicated?

If not, then that position or belief is unscientific.

Freedom is the ability to do what you want to do.
Liberty is the ability to do what you ought to do.
"Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." 2 Corinthians 3:17

I didn't make the statement

So you're going after something that was not said.

I didn't say "that I find x likely true." I just explained the landscape. "Those that believe x, find y to be likely true." It was not an explanation of my conviction.

I was trying to clear up what I saw as an incorrect distinction; that "atheist = evolutionist."

The two are not related or dependent. One is a position on deities, the other a position on biology.

So my point was not to bolster either of these positions, just to explain the landscape correctly.

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Since you seem interested specifically in "what I believe" on the topic of abiogenesis, I will let you know.

I personally do not have an explanation for "non-life to life." I am not informed on scientific theories that explain this phenomenon. So I honestly have no idea what science has proposed on that topic.

Probably a pretty boring answer. But I honestly don't have a horse in that race.

Thank you.

I appreciate your clearing that up. I try to understand why people say what they say, and give opportunities to clarify any ambiguities or possible misunderstandings, especially if the misunderstanding is on my part. Again, thanks. You didn't have to give that much of an answer - and it was not boring - not exciting, but not boring either. :)

Freedom is the ability to do what you want to do.
Liberty is the ability to do what you ought to do.
"Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." 2 Corinthians 3:17