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(VIDEO) William F. Buckley and Ron Paul

Pour yourselves a cup of coffee.


http://youtu.be/4VIvqyrxbL8

I love, love, love William F. Buckley's interviewing style and often watch these old Firing Line episodes on YouTube.

Old interviews with Ron Paul are particularly interesting because they demonstrate the consistency of his views over the years.

Hope you guys enjoy

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Does anyone else find the Buckley Praise On Here Disturbing?

I can't be the only one. Buckley is CLEARLY not on the side of liberty. Yes he has a very polished interviewing style. But instead of "swooning", we need to be extra careful. Remember that the establishment can convince more people with friendly voices.

Obama is a master speaker. "What a wonderful guy!"

Bill Buckley has a cool accent and has excellent control of his non-verbal communication (e.g. his facial expressions). "Hey great. Maybe the CIA is promoting liberty around the world after all!"

Hey Dr. Ron Paul isn't a great speaker. I guess he's just "not presidential".

Ernest van den Haag...

really falls apart upon expressing the notion that if you tell someone you are going to take from them before doing so, then the act of taking from them is not "stealing". What's interesting is that after uttering such gibberish, he immediately changes the subject.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZH9j_d-WUw&t=3m8s

hindsight

You make a very good point, but similar reasoning is often advanced, even on this forum.

Suggested response: "So if a thug comes into your restaurant with a dozen of his friends and tells you he is going to take 20 percent of your profits for "protection," and if you resist he and his friends will kill you, then you're criticizing me for calling that stealing because he has told you beforehand, and you have the option to close your restaurant and not make any profit? What would you call it?"

Also, with the prof's point on "helping the orphans" he seems to be saying it's OK to take others' resources if they are used for what *he* thinks they should be used for.

These same points have been made for a long time. They don't get any better for the repitition.

Good stuff....

I like these guys who claim to be for limited government, then find example after example, and make excuse after excuse for why we need this and that agency and installing dictators, etc.

Like someone saying they really want to lose weight, but need to just eat a little more ice cream, and a little more pizza, etc, etc.

Buckley says the CIA isn't the problem, its just what they do. I guess ice cream doesn't make you fat if you eat it a certain way.

I'm on part 3 but

it is choppy. I was not a fan of Buckley, so I don't know if this is his usual body language, but if he leans any further back, he is going to fall out of his chair. Dr. Paul is sitting upright and sharp as a tack with his logic.

Thank you for posting this video treasure.

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This is one of those "wow" interviews X 10!

I was in Congress for 4 terms, and I could never figure-out what the CIA was doing.
- Ron Paul

Armed with only the Constitution, Ron Paul takes on elitist, ex-CIA, Skull & Bones William F. Buckley and wins outright. Twenty-six years ago with Buckley at his brainiest height was still no match for Ron Paul; Buckley is taken apart piece-by-piece by Ron Paul. Great stuff. Thanks.

Thanks

(beverage modified)
Not much has changed. They both wanted smaller government but gun supported taxes were a necessity for their pet oxen.

Reminded me of dwalters principle -- An individual should never have to fund anything with which he or she disagrees.

I hope Diplomatic Rand has learned to define and defend his views half as well as his Father did here.

I'll take my Liberty, it's not yours to give.

Ron Paul was decades ahead of

Ron Paul was decades ahead of everyone else on the big stage. He did it through diligent truth-searching in a pre-Google era, all while being a doctor and a good father. Those vocations must have fed his soul because he certainly didn't get any back-slapping from fellow legislators or the media. Only watched one segment of this and, though I've seen Buckley being sharp on other occasions, he wasn't here, stooping to squabble over whether Ron's candidacy was "didactic" or not and ignoring the civil liberty implications of a politicized CIA and FBI under Hoover.

10-15 million more voters need to believe in non-interventionism (liberty) at home and abroad to change America. Minds changed on Syria. Minds changing on privacy. "Printing money" is part of the dialogue. Win minds through focus, strategy.

Buckley and the CIA

I poured myself a couple of coffee and ended up watching all four videos.

Ron was brilliant in these.

Interesting to watch Buckley defend the CIA and the FBI. Buckley doesn't disclose that he was an FBI informant at Yale and worked for the CIA in Mexico City. He was also a member of Skull and Bones. I wonder if Ron knew he was criticizing the CIA and the FBI to a guy who worked for both agencies.

Strange to watch that guy with the foreign accent at the end argue for American support of dictatorships as if this is something we Americans need to do for our own good.

"I ain't the dying type."

Reader, writer, soldier.

i do enjoy. thx

and DR RP

didactic.....why not

LOL!

I'm still on his second sentence, laughing.

Buckley says, "never has he received so many letters to have someone on, as for Ron Paul." He, he, he.

We're not using snail mail anymore!

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

Consistency makes video time-traveling fun.

Ron Paul being the most consistent out there is the best. You know no matter what someone say what he believes and what he doesn't.

The only view I know of that he has changed was immigration I believe.

And The Death Penalty

In light of the advances in DNA evidence, I can't say I blame him.

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"Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard

Buckley Just Seems So Creepy

He certainly is polished but so is Obama

Appearances can be deceiving.

Appearances can be deceiving. He was an intellectual giant.

Creepiness Example

Play for 2 seconds (until 3 mins 26 seconds)

http://youtu.be/4JeNIX2x9j8?t=3m24s

I never said he wasn't intelligent

Just that he's creepy. I don't trust the guy one bit.

If so...

he was hiding it extremely well.

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The real beauty of this debate is that

Buckley was a CIA spy. Ron Paul is standing up to one of the most eloquent authors, columnists, and intellectual giants of the day who comes directly from the belly of the beast.

I grew up reading his National Review. His run for NYC mayor against John Lindsay (which he mentions briefly in the video) is something we can all learn from. Despite his background, Buckley is libertarian on some issues. (Ending drug prohibition, for example. I'll never forget his story about buying a huge amount of cocaine to send to his maid's mother who was dying of cancer in Cuba and had no medical care.)

What a fantastic find. Thank you so much for this post!

I'd rather be a hungry patriot than a satisfied slave.