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The Four Agreements and the Daily Paul

The Four Agreements is a sweet little book. Compact wisdom that is applicable to the Daily Paul.

1. Be Impeccable with Your Word

Speak with integrity. Say only what you mean. Avoid using the word to speak against yourself or others. Use the power of your word in the direction of truth and love.

2. Don't Take Anything Personally

Nobody knows you here. They have an image of you based on a few data points that you have provided. That image exists only in their mind.

3. Don't Make Assumptions

When you assume, you make an ASS out of U and ME. (My typing teacher taught us that.) Look again at #2. If no one knows you, the converse is that you don't know anyone else, either. All you have is a mental projection (a reality hologram, I call it) that exists nowhere but in your mind.

If you must assume, assume the best, not the worst.

4. Always Do Your Best

This speaks for itself.

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jrd3820's picture

It can be personal

It often is personal.

Aren’t our screen names just manifestations of our physical selves? Aren’t we as a society moving towards internet being primary socialization and interaction? If so, no matter how you word it, this kind of interaction will (and in my opinion already is) become very personal over the years.
It is personal when a few people decide to team up on someone and downvote based on username alone.

It is personal when some people only come out of hiding to argue with specific people.

It is personal when some people only make certain posts to mock other people, with no intention to lead or educate or enlighten anyone with those posts, just to be passive aggressive (and in some cases just aggressive aggressive) jerks.

Yes people only know what they know about other people here based on a few data points, but if you really pay attention to people and put all those data points together you can get a bigger picture.

The internet is how society interacts. Interactions are personal.

egapele's picture

:-)

You're a gem.

Hi.

Before discovering deacon's fresh comment, I simply clicked over to this post to stalk you say "Howdy!", seemed like a convenient place to do that. I was just thinking about you and wished to express that simple notion. You don't even have to reply as I'm not exactly jonesin' [I got my fix a few days ago ;)].

Warning: If you have your "personal" dial cranked too high this might totally creep you out...

http://spiderjohn.com/70s/thinking/boutu020.wma

I suggest turning the dial slowly counterclockwise until you start to smile a bit. From that point, if you turn it back just a hair more, you might even laugh a little.

This is how I add cover songs to my thang. I do all these things with all the lightning speed haste I can muster. I listen to the original and write down the lyrics. I figure out minimal chord structure to support simple run through. I gab a guitar I haven't used for a while [I have too many guitars, they get neglected as I don't really play much]. I grab an effect pedal and an amplifier [same as guitars, too many], hastily set their dials [to a sound I've never heard before], turn on a cheap room recorder, and quickly play the song before I forget what I just hastily learned. This approach produces many crappy recordings, but it's never boring, and the point is not to make a good recording anyway but to etch a basic form on my mind, to break soil and plant an initial seed of sorts. More sprouts end up neglected than I care to remember. :D

jrd3820's picture

When we don't run away together and get married

I think we shouldn't (but most definately should...) go to Wyoming or Montana or a Dakota.... What do you think? We could live off the land under the stars and skies.

I loved that song. Did I ever tell you I download your wav files and convert them to itunes so you are on my ipod? Well, it's true. I do. John Robb is one of my favorite musicians on my ipod.

don't not run not together but get it to get her what?

We could live off the land under the stars and skies.

You mean like on a boat?

That would be very cool actually.

I can't get married right now anyway though. I'm playing anadrome with has.

http://spiderjohn.com/70s/bookoflo.wma ;)

Holy Crap!

Did you download that bloody mess linked to "butcher"? 0_0

jrd3820's picture

Mmmmhmmmm :)

Anything I have caught you linking here eventually gets downloaded.

I love nomojo. I Screwed Up The Mojo!

You sure did!

"When we don't run away together and get married..." :(

Then I can't play this Ronnie Wood song
at our wedding...
http://spiderjohn.com/70s/mm_hold.wma

I'm not really sure if that follows logically from your quote, but hey, just listen, I can't play the song at all really. It's a toughie! It's got some strange timing. Kinda works out okay though, playin' solo.

Following a different line of logic, the first line of the song suggests a different potential outcome. o_o *buys new running shoes* Either way, I started the song standing tall but ended it humbly on my knee. True story. What's that tell ya? ;)

Linoleum hurts my knee. It didn't used to hurt my knee, but I'm as old as Flea from the Chili Peppers. I lied. He's older [by more than a week! :D].

Now take a hike! Go fly a kite! or Go jump in a lake!

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I'm choosing the latter, myself.

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Michael Nystrom's picture

It is personal to the extent you make it so

don Miguel Ruiz created, or translated these 'agreements' from the real world. They are actually advice for the real world. I thought they would work well here too.

Aren’t our screen names just manifestations of our physical selves?

Yes, but what is your physical self a manifestation of? That is really what he's getting at.

His point is that you shouldn't really take anything personally, because people are only reacting to their own mental image of you. Really it has nothing (or very little) to do with you, unless you choose to make it so.

Yeah, but...

oops, I have to run out the door for a couple hours. Don't take it personally. I'll be back though for a more personally impersonal reply.

edit: jrd!!! I've missed you!!! :D

It is personal when...

...but we don't have to take it personally. Here's an extreme example of what I mean [and what I think Ruiz means]. Someone might call me an asshole to my face. The less I take it personally, the more I'm able to receive some benefit from such an opinion as general feedback no different from somebody telling me I'm a really nice guy or that I'm funny.

Time to stalk you a bit. No harm in taking that personally, or not. ;)

If it has to be personal, latch onto some of the love that flows

so freely around here. Ignore the bad. There are lots of positives to make up for any negatives... awesome posts from beautiful people... like this http://www.dailypaul.com/270001/time-for-my-nightly-jam-session... :)

I myself make some of the mistakes listed above and will try to apply them more in the future. Thanks Michael

Welp I already screwed up #1 today*

even though I know the power of life and death are in the tongue, I called myself a "Dipsh*t Hick Dumb@ss". Consider it a form of grieving.

*And it appears upon further reading I may have violated all 4 points.

Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

Uh yeah any chance I can get an exemption?

The whole "rough around the edges" thing is integral to the Smudge Pot persona. Smudge pots are nasty fowl and horrible objects but they are occasionally necessary to the proper functioning of life.

Alternatively they have this nice looking porcelein pots on Amazon but those are known as chamber pots. Just imagine what having one of those around would do to the ambience.

Jee Host of chat calls me "smoodj" which turns out to be a pot of pickled fish in Russia. In English this translates to "moldy old fish pot".

COINCIDENCE?

I THINK NOT.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

Michael Nystrom's picture

Hey Butterfly!

What would you do if someone else (not yourself) called you those things?

Would you ever call anyone else (not yourself) those things?

Be kinder to yourself. If for no one else, then for me. And if not for me, then for who you are grieving for.

There is no call to be mean to anyone, most especially yourself.

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The good part about your admission that you may have violated all four points is that at least you are aware of it. That is a huge step! Most people do that all the time without even knowing.

So kudos to you!

Yay

awareness :( It hurts.

Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

5. And realize that only 7% of any message is conveyed through

words! Yep, that would explain at least some of the arguments.

http://www.nonverbalgroup.com/2011/08/how-much-of-communicat...

And this gem from one of the comments
"I used to teach at Gallaudet University where the students are deaf or hard of hearing. It's difficult to "lie" to a deaf person because they're so attuned to peoples' body language."

Michael Nystrom's picture

Yes, that would explain A LOT!

Here you can't see a person's nature; the twinkle in their eye of gentle sarcasm; etc.

Thanks for the link.
The important part is that most communication is nonverbal. In fact, nonverbal behavior is the most crucial aspect of communication.

Am I more or less of the person I project here

than the person I project face to face? I think it is an equal trade off.

Here I may be better know by thoughts vs. in "real life" I am known by appearance and actions. Neither is a complete picture.

Perception vs Reality

...I was informed some years ago that:

There is the "YOU" that one imagines/projects him/herself to be.
There is the "YOU" that is perceived by others.
There is the "YOU" that you really are.

INTEGRITY is the sum of all the parts; the "whole person" in their entirety.
These days "Integrity" seems to be a "catch-phrase" used in news "stories".
Quite a difference, isn't it?
p.s.
Good Luck with your "move".
I'd most certainly grieve if you "moved away" from the DP.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Michael Nystrom's picture

I agree with the part about the 3 "you's."

But you don't really have much control over the YOU that is perceived by others.

I think the best way to deal with that is understanding that whatever people perceive of you is only a projection. Like their own, personal reality hologram of you. It really has nothing to do with you, yourself.

Some people here like me; others (especially those I've banned) think that I'm the devil incarnate.

Don Miguel Ruiz is great. I

Don Miguel Ruiz is great. I love the toltec lineage, very powerful. I have had the honor of working with one of Don Miguel's students for a toltec mentorship.

SteveMT's picture

Simplicity makes these 4 things doable.

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