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Juice Fast Day 8 - Ending early

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Inspired by DavyC's post on fasting, I started a juice fast last Thursday. I tentatively planned to go for 21 days, but I'm getting a tooth pulled on day 13, so I'm cutting it short at 10 days. Below are brief daily updates.

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6/19/2014 - Day 8 I had planned to go 10 days, until just before I got that tooth pulled. I was ignoring what I have today, which is getting a little growth on the back of my head burned off with liquid nitrogen.

Cleansing is good, but I'll need healing powers for that, and for the tooth next week. I hadn't considered tomorrow's procedure, but I am now!

Ending a fast should be gradual. I'll start tomorrow with juice, and fruit, and the vegetables from the broth, which is what I will have for lunch as well. Dinner should be a salad. I think oil is ok, but certainly no meat - not yet.

NOT TO MENTION John Powhida is having his CD release party on Saturday night at the Lizzard Lounge in Cambridge and it would be, you know, nice to have a whiskey sour, or at least a glass of wine for the show.

So tomorrow it is. Which just goes to show, if you want to do a longer fast, you really have to plan ahead.

My problem is that I'm starting a Quest on July 14, and I wanted to do the cleanse before then. (And the 7ths is a special day). Oh well, there will be time for more, in the future, and for a longer one.

Obligations make it difficult, if not impossible, to enjoy the peace.

Thank you all for following along. I hope that your experience was as good as mine.

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6/18/2014 - Day 7 Two fortuitous events: Yesterday in Lexington, a copy of Carlos Castenada's A Separate Reality was waiting for me in a conspicuous place. Later in the day, I learned that a friend from an earlier season here in Boston, who later left for the midwest to go to med school, is back in town. I'm looking forward to seeing him.

The cleans is going well. "You look so good!" I hear that several times a day. Granted it is from Samantha, but I have to concur. My body is slimmer, tighter and my face has a healthy glow. Cruising. Remembering to keep hydrated with as much pure water and organic tea as I like, so I'm constantly going to the bathroom, flushing everything through.

I feel great.

PM Update. The book is good. I like it. I spent the afternoon with A---, my friend from before. It was almost 90 today in Boston, but not very humid. It was quite pleasant. We went out to Walden Pond, and did one revolution.

It was a beautiful day - lots of people were out swimming and sunbathing. Did they do that in Thoreau's day too?

We caught up. We're both on our own respective journeys, but it is nice to take the time to catch up.

6/17/2014 - Day 6 AM

I had a dream right before I woke up this morning. One of the side benefits of this juice cleanse for me, as I mentioned before, is that I'm dreaming again. Normally I don't dream (or more specifically, I don't remember them), and I suspect this is because of my daily caffeine habit.

This morning, Rand Paul made an appearance. I dreamed that I was in the lobby of the office tower that I used to work in, in downtown Seattle, waiting for the elevator. It was crowded, and I saw an old, old friend from college waiting for the elevator as well. She was a friend from my first year in college, when we were both art majors, but I haven't seen her since freshman year (25 years).

I was trying to figure out a way to signal her when who should show up beside me waiting for the elevator but Rand Paul! "Hello Rand," I said, a little louder than necessary, trying to catch her attention, so that she would see me.

Everyone boarded the elevator, and Rand and I continued to make polite small talk, the way you do when you're dressed in a suit and a tie in an elevator in an office building. The way I had to when I used to work in that building. I could see that I had caught my old friend K's attention.

Rand got off the elevator and said, "We should do lunch sometime." Ok, I said, thinking to myself how annoyed I am with that phrase "do lunch."

K & I continued to ride up and eventually we got off the elevator onto a balcony that overlooked a vast open area, and the dream continued on its mysterious, rambling path, as dreams do. I won't bore you with the rest, but I thought it was interesting that Rand showed up.

Dreams can be helpful, and I'm happy to be dreaming again. I guess this means I should give up coffee permanently :(

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Another development: I soaked my shirt last night in sweat, which is the first time that happened since I started my fast. Normally I do have night sweats, but never this bad. I attribute that to the caffeine as well, though night sweats are also a hallmark of the alcoholic. But I don't think I drink enough to qualify for that.

For whatever reason, my sweat glands decided to let loose in the middle of the night last night. I woke up in the wee hours to go to the bathroom and changed my shirt. It was soaked.

The boy is full of so many mysterious processes. Having a body truly is a miracle that I'm grateful for.

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Today is a little overcast - perfect for what I have planned: A bike ride up to Lexington and back. It should take an hour each way, up the bike trail. I'm going to take it easy.

When I was a young man working in that office building that showed up in my dream this morning, I did a fast and rode my bike to work and back each day. It was an intense half and hour each way, with a monster hill to climb on the way home. I was so tired by the end of the week!

I want to emphasize that doing a cleanse like this doesn't mean that you have to be sedentary and weak. On the contrary, after the first few days -- and I cannot stress this enough -- I have more energy, and more stable energy than when I'm eating. Weird.


6/16/2014 - Day 5

I think I accidentally drank some caffeinated tea yesterday, which partially explains why I had so much energy yesterday, lol. I had the darndest time falling asleep last night, and it felt like a caffeine high. No dreams last night either. I was careful today not to ingest any caffeine.

Another good day today. Lots of clean, clear energy. It is interesting watching my thoughts around hunger. When I'm not fasting and a hunger pang hits, my mind is immediately occupied: What should I eat? Should I make this? Should I go there? Mmmm, it is going to be so good...

Under these circumstances, that is not possible. Instead of thinking, you feel it. Just relax and feel it. Ride it, drink a glass of water, and it goes away. The mind is on to other things. Not only do I feel a cleansing of the body, but a cleansing of the mind. My consciousness is raised.

In other news, I notice a mossy film developing on my teeth and in my mouth. I imagine this is some kind of detox reaction. The smell of my breath has improved. My pits have a very distinctive smell - not terrible like the first couple of days, but different from normal.

I haven't lost any weight in the past 3 days, which is interesting, considering I'm taking in well below 1,000 calories a day, yet remain very active. The metabolism slows, and the body adjusts.

6/15/2014 - Day 4

AM: Woke up this morning and felt great! No hunger pangs, no headache, lots of energy. Drank a glass of water, made a big glass of juice (the usual - celery, carrot, cucumber, kale, apple & lemon), and a pot of vegetable broth (same as the juice, but with onion, broccoli and a little garlic).

Drew a bath to soak out some toxins through sweat and laid in the tub for an hour, sweating and reading the Sunday paper. Got out and had a cup of cooled broth.

Brunch has been shifted to afternoon tea. It is a gorgeous, sunny day out. Time for a bike ride in the sun.

I feel great!

PM: Had a nice bike ride to the public library (statist!), met a friend for tea, walked around the new development in Somerville - Assembly Row, which I think is a massive case of malinvestment, but it may work, too. Felt a little faint and had one of Starbucks's new raw "Evolution Fresh" brand juices. They have a pressure based preservative method, which is supposed to kill bacteria, but leave the enzymes in the juice alive. It was $6 and did the trick, but not as good as fresh.

I had so much energy today! I went for another bike ride in the evening, zooming up the Minuteman trail. I would have gone all the way to Lexington - I felt like I had the energy for it, but it was getting dark and chilly.

So much energy! More energy than when I'm eating food. This is what I love. This is the sweet spot, these next few days, when I'm cruising.

6/14/2014 - Day 3 Completed!

I'm cruising now. The headaches are gone. A few hunger pangs every now and again, quickly doused by a glass of water or a cup of tea. I'm feeling light and fine. Just a short nap this afternoon, a doze, really.

It is funny how much of a role food plays in our lives, unconsciously. Naturally, all day, I'm thinking, "I could go there and have a ..." And then I have to catch myself -- I'm not eating!

I've lost four pounds in 3 days, but I imagine at least half of that is from evacuating my bowels completely.

And then you start to get the feeling, "I wish I never had to eat again." And later you get to the point where food actually kind of grosses you out.

But we'll see how tomorrow goes. I'm meeting family friends for brunch... They'll be eating; I'll be drinking water.

6/13/2014 - Day 2 Completed!

This morning was a little rough. I got up, it was cold and rainy, and I evacuated my bowels with a salt water flush. I didn't feel so great after that, and went back down for a two hour nap or so.

After that, I've been feeling pretty great. Made a big glass of juice, the standard: Celery, carrot, kale, apple, & cucumber. Downed that and went for a nice long walk. No headache today. A few hunger pangs that pass with a glass of water, vegetable broth, or tea.

My breath is putrid, Samantha told me so. I can taste it, too. That is the body clearing these toxins. The skin and the lungs are the body's big eliminative organs, along with the colon.

All's well. I just moved a bunch of heavy boxes down into the basement, worked up a good sweat and am feeling fine :)

6/12/2014 - Day 1 Completed!

Made it through the day with a few glasses of fresh juice, a few glasses of water and a couple cups of tea. Had a very long and deep nap in the afternoon.

Got up and made a pot of vegetable broth in the evening: Onion, celery, carrot, broccoli

I have a wicked headache. That'll happen. My body is missing its daily dose(s) of caffeine.

But overall, I feel great! Day 2 tomorrow.

Goodnight Daily Paul!

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Well I may join you in your

Well I may join you in your fast. I wasn't planning on it when you wrote your first day's post, but now it appears more like a message I need to hear. I'm having digestive issues, or more accurately, the issues I've had forever are getting worse, and I couldn't eat more than half a salad so far today. They're big salads, but still, sometimes I'll have 2 in one sitting, and several in a day.

Some fresh veggie juice and a little fruit juice actually sounds really good! So maybe I'll buy a cold press juicer. I think I remember seeing a post on this site about a good one recently. I used to have a Jack Lalanne juicer, but it was a pain in the ass to clean.

The last fast I did was like 5 years ago, about a week. I actually didn't get any of that energy boost that people talk about. I just felt weak the whole time, although I was a little surprised that I had enough energy to do some light active stuff and in general be able to function fine without food for a while. After the first couple days the food pangs weren't as bad, but I never got to the point of being able to stop craving food like you did.

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Digestive issues are

Digestive issues are something to be taken seriously.

All health, and all disease, begins in the colon. The colon is the main elimination system in the body. If it gets clogged or broken, any disease that begins there will spread throughout the body. That is what happened to my mom, and Samantha's sister. Colon cancer that later spread to the liver. Believe me, you don't want any part of that.

A person should have at least one bowel movement per day, preferably three, one after each meal. If you are not eliminating, then toxins are staying in the body.

I went for a 20 mile bike ride today. The hunger pangs came and went, but I didn't lack for energy.

If you felt weak the whole time, there might have been a lot of toxins coming out into your system. It is imperative that you get them out during your fast either with an enema or a salt water flush.

I recently learned the salt water flush kills the bacteria in your gut, so I don't want to use that method any more. The enema is not pleasant. I did one today, and I felt pretty crappy, excuse the pun, but much better later. Not pleasant, but again, the body needs maintenance.

I cannot recommend this book higher in terms of motivating and explaining the purpose of a fast:

This is the juicer I use & love


It is a snap to clean up. Under 2 minutes - seriously.

Whatever problems you are having it is your body's way of communicating with you. Listen and take it seriously. Best of luck.

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You are right. If you have

You are right. If you have GI issues, you will fall apart from head to toe. I used to have all sorts of problems. The MDs always told me that diet had nothing to do with my problems. What a crock. Diet had EVERYTHING to do with it. I got away from processed foods, took probiotics etc. That helped, but I still wasn't there. It was when I ditched grains and dairy that things really straightened out.

I ordered the Omega J8005

I ordered the Omega J8005 earlier today. It will have to do!

Thanks for the tips. I think I will try a salt water flush too. I've got plenty of probiotics to take after. I'm on an anti-candida regimen already, and this should complement it fine. I did a liver flush a year ago with epsom salt, which is more complex and involved more salt but worked as the instructions described (some little stuff came out), but I have some pink Himalayan salt to use for this one.

I've got some veggie broth cooking. I've never made it before, but it sounds yummy right now!

This may need a link on the top of the page for continued

Info on our fasting. Journals of all our trials and tribulations through the day 1 and beyond to help inspire others as well as speaking to the hardships encountered, it might just inspire some that are ready to quit it to go on.

More interesting would be the ailments that disappear from doing it, as I have read that many that suffer from auto immune issues such as psoriasis and other ailments disappear when doing a 5+ day cleanse. I myself suffer from mild psoriasis which started after surgery for diverticulitis in which they removed 14 inches of my colon, and I often wonder if I could have cured myself without surgery. 3 years of pain and weeks being hospitalized speaking with nutritionists that can not give anyone direct instructions on what to eat out of fear of lawsuits is sad. In the end I had the surgery, and 3 weeks after returning home I developed a quarter sized spot of psoriasis next to my staples running down my belly, and this soon spread to my legs and arms. I control the outbreaks with steroids and creams, but I am scarred with dark patches from the outbreaks. I am wanting to see if the fasting will stop the outbreaks and with the use of topical organic vinegar if I can remove the dark spots. Will certain update everyone here as my adventure into juice fasting starts July 7th. Please continue sharing your experiences with everyone.

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Stay IRATE, remain TIRELESS, an

terrific report,

at times it sounds like you're breaking through space and time!

to peel or not to peel?

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It really feels great Davy

How do you like your juicer. If you responded elsewhere, I must have missed it.

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Great article! The only thing I ever peel is the lemon, but I guess I should rethink that according to what it says.

Lemons & Limes & Tangerines: Citrus peels are high in powerful antioxidants called super-flavonoids which can contribute to reducing “bad” cholesterol levels. According to a U.S. study, the antioxidants from these peels were 20 times more powerful than those from the juice.

Good stuff! Thank you Davy.

At the same time, the oils from these citrus peels can be tough on your stomach, so make sure you go easy on them. We recommend juicing only half a peel a day

Duly noted. Have a great day Davy!

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you're welcome

no, i have yet to take it out of the box. i've been swamped with a lot of work and want things to calm down a bit first. i am following your reports, and i keep researching and looking at all the varieties of concoctions one can make. i like your idea of adding some vegetables and making a broth. i'm looking forward to having juicing being a big part of my eating plan, and i am getting psyched. i read somewhere that vegan fiber pills are a good alternative to the enema or laxative. what do you think?

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Fiber pills

Yes, you could go that route. I did something like that years ago, with psyllium and bentonite, which is a kind of liquid clay that they say absorbs toxins. You could also use soaked chia seeds.

The only thing is that you would miss this nice empty feeling in the gut. Also, part of the point is giving your digestive system a rest, so it doesn't have to be working all the time.

But certainly acceptable, yes.

Let me know when you open that juicer!

The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. - Alan Watts

Just a note on the peels...

If you are going to juice or eat raw peels be sure to purchase organic. The peels of the grocery store lemons, limes, etc. can and have been found to contain high levels of pesticides which is what we are trying to get rid of. If you are going to eat or juice the peels I highly recommend organic (if you can trust what you are buying is truly organic), to avoid the pesticides used on the fruit or veggie. Just a tip as I enjoy eating the peel of lemons and sometime cheat and sprinkle a little sugar on to enhance the flavor.

Always remember:
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." ~ Samuel Adams
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Stay IRATE, remain TIRELESS, an

Thanks for these updates...

...and the great information. I've eaten organically for a few years, but never denied myself completely. I have been diving into spirituality a lot the past year, and just trying to explore what is inside us all.

It might sound strange, but I feel like I am being "pulled" to fast for as long as possible. Right when I started ignoring that feeling, several fasting posts showed up on the DP, strange stuff.

You have finally motivated me into pulling the trigger! Thank you!

im with you on this mike

I'm deep into a VLCD myself. not strictly juice but very low calories. google the whoosh affect of fat loss. It could help explain your weight loss plateau.

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Interesting, thanks

While I have observed that phenomenon, I didn't know that about the fat cells.

I learned something new today on the Daily Paul :) Thank you!

It appears that I dropped one pound between yesterday and today.

The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. - Alan Watts

Bought a juicer today!

I bought a Breville model centrifugal juicer. Had good reviews and so far it's handled kale and spinach pretty well. Tried my hand at some green juice today.

I used kale, spinach, lemon, carrots, celery, apples, and a bit of ginger root. Delicious!

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Good work!

Delicious, isn't it? You can feel that energy, before it even hits your stomach, can't you!

Beware Pete_J's caution below about the fruit. The lemon is a good call.


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I've only had one (and a half) so far..

Yesterday, after bying the juicer, I made that green juice in the pictures for my brother and I. When my other roommate came home, we made her pretty much the same juice, but with an orange instead of lemon and a little extra carrot. My brother and I ended up splitting that one too, and it was good with the orange in it.

Today, I feel much better than I have in a long time. I definitely feel like I have more energy. This might sound weird, but my abdomen (stomach and bowels) feel "better" today too. It's a little hard to explain, since I don't really have "stomach issues" to really feel "better" from... but my insides just feel.... good, lol.

I'm not going to dive into a juice fast yet, but I'll be playing around with the juicer and trying out a lot of new things. I think I'll be ready to try at least a one day fast in a week or so. I'll decide to go longer after I complete that first day.

What's all this about Pete_J's fruit caution? I'm new to this juicing thing, so I'm a little unsure what all that means.

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Not weird at all

Even if you don't have 'issues' I think we all have 'issues' based on the SAD - the Standard American Diet. Getting the live foods into your body gives you an extra boost. Samantha and I make a juice like that every morning before breakfast. I definitely notice the days that we miss it. I just don't have the same "oomph" as the day wears on.

I'm not going to dive into a juice fast yet, but I'll be playing around with the juicer and trying out a lot of new things. I think I'll be ready to try at least a one day fast in a week or so. I'll decide to go longer after I complete that first day.

Good idea. No need to rush into anything. I think the one day fast a week is a good idea. I have seen what is called the '36 hour fast' - where you don't eat dinner, and replace it with juice. Then the next day, drink nothing but juice for the whole day. I think I'm going to try to incorporate that into my routine when I've finished this fast.

As for Pete_J's fruit caution, I was just referring to a comment he made below somewhere about not putting too much fruit or carrots into these juices, as it can spike your blood sugar level.

If you're splitting that with your brother, I think that is fine with that amount of apples and carrots that you have in your picture.

Some good books that I recommend:

Juice Fasting

And it doesn't have to be just juice. Blended raw foods are also a wonderful way to drink your greens!

Green for Life

This is a super awesome book as well. ^ ^

Good luck. Thanks for sharing!

I haven't asked about how the non smoking is going in a while, but well, I assume!

The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. - Alan Watts

Thanks for those e-books

I'll look into them when I activate the kindle app on my phone. I had thought I had already set it up, but I guess not, lol. I did see some articles talking about the fruit thing, so I'm definitely tracking on what you guys were talking about now.

As for my smoking... I'm no where close to being where I was prior to quitting, but I HAVE been partaking as of late. There's a laundry list of reasons why I hopped off the wagon, but those reasons don't matter. What does matter, is that in a moment of weakness, I chose to buy a pack of cigarettes. Once a junkie, always a junkie.

That being said, I appreciate all the support this site has given me the last few months. Sorry it all ended up being a waste! I do not have plans to continue smoking much longer (again), and I know I can quit again since I've done it before. I simply made things a little tough for myself and need to begin moving forward again. I'll let you know when that happens, but I may not keep progress tracked on my thread anymore when I do. Too many people here have given me great support and advice, and I just don't want to waste anyone's time again.

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I forgot to say that lemons

I forgot to say that lemons and limes are ok. They are very healthful and cleansing.

One time I set out to make the worst, most bitter tasting juice that I could. Did , kale, cabbage, broccoli, radish, garlic, onion, ginger, celery, lemon, arugula, watercress and celery. Funny thing is, it was really pretty good!

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Sounds pretty good, actually

But you forgot the beet!

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Be careful with the fruits

Be careful with the fruits and sweet veggies like carrots. Juicing concentrates the sugars. Lean harder on the dark, bitter greens. The more wicked it tastes, the better it is for you.


I'm new to this whole juicing thing, so please forgive my naivete. What do you mean when you say that "juicing concentrates the sugars"? Is this a bad thing, lol? Thanks Pete!

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Yes, it is not a good thing.

Yes, it is not a good thing. Along with concentrating the nutrients, you are concentrating the sugars/carbs too. And you don't have the fiber to slow down the sugar absorption. This makes the juice higher on the glycemic index than the veggies and fruits themselves. So your juices can spike insulin. This can be a problem for some folks, not so much so for others. Just be aware of the concept. Just because a little is good, it doesn't mean a truck-ton will be better.


Ok, I'm tracking I think. Thanks for the help Pete. Anything else I need to be aware of?

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Hmm. I don't know. Don't

Hmm. I don't know. Don't stick your winkie in the juicer?


There goes my Friday...

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The Mean Green Juice

is the Real Deal Juice!

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Thx dude

im 24 hrs into this as well. Thanks for the updates.

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So far so good!

Day 2 went fine. I'm surprised how easy this has been. Caffeine withdrawal headaches have been minimal. Haven't really been hungry at all, just have to battle my mind's desire for something crunchy and salty. I've also lost about 4 pounds.

I'm only doing 5 days since I have a camping trip next weekend, but I hope to use this as a jump start to a MUCH healthier relationship with food. And I could see doing frequent short detoxes in the future as well as trying a longer juice fast at some point too.

Michael - before they pull that tooth - get a 2nd opinion.

Unless you are 100% sure there is no way to save your tooth, I would get another opinion. I wish I had.

Last year I had a tooth pulled (1st one ever) which my dentist said was cracked below the gumline.

It might be that there is no way to save your tooth, but having my tooth pulled was very traumatic.

Eventually I hope to have a fake tooth put in because I do miss it. I had a bone graft installed to accomodate a future tooth,

Mine was the farthest upper left tooth.

I just wonder these days if dentists are a little too quick to pull teeth.

So my recommendation is to get a 2nd opinion and make sure there is absolutely no other options to save it before you proceed.

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