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Rand Paul: Dick Cheney brought about chaos in Iraq, not Obama

By KENDALL BREITMAN | 6/20/14 2:19 PM EDT


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Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) wants to turn the tables on those who are questioning President Barack Obama’s handling of the draw down of troops in Iraq.

In an interview with NBC’s “Meet the Press” that will air Sunday, when host David Gregory asked Paul if he found former Vice President Dick Cheney to be a credible critic of the president, Paul responded “I think the same questions could be asked of those who supported the Iraq War. You know, were they right in their predictions? Were there weapons of mass destruction there? Was the war won in 2005, when many of those people said it was won?”

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Instead of placing blame on the president, Paul suggested that blame for the unrest in the Middle East can be placed elsewhere.

“I don’t blame President Obama,” Paul said. “Has he really got the solution? Maybe there is no solution. But I do blame those who are for the Iraq War for emboldening Iran. These are the same people now who are petrified of what Iran may become, and I understand some of their worry”

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/rand-paul-dick-cheney-...

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Oh come on. Seriously?

Talk about a deceptive headline. Rand Paul went very specifically out of his way to *not* blame the chaos in Iraq on Dick Cheney. He could have been said to blame the "emboldening of Iran" (a ridiculous neocon talking point) on Dick Cheney, but he said absolutely nothing about blaming Cheney for anything about Iraq, except perhaps deceiving people here on WMD---fair enough.

I'm not against Rand per se, but really he didn't say anything very admirable or significant in that inverview.

I applaud Rand on taking a

I applaud Rand for taking a politically risky path in telling the truth about the REAL root cause of the chaos in Iraq. Where he begins his nonsensical lying is when he claims Iran is a "much greater threat" as a result. It only makes sense in the falsely painted paradigm where Iran is some warmongering belligerent power, which is simply bullshit.

Yes, the ousting of Saddam and installment of a Shia government gave Iran an automatic ally, but this by no means equates to Iran becoming a "threat." It's more hilarious than anything. Iran's our "enemy" yet everything Bush did in Iraq benefited them.

I get Rand's lying here, but his lies feed into the neocon/israeli lies about Iran.

You're absurd. They are a

You're absurd. They are a much, much, MUCH bigger threat now that we have bombed their children and destroyed their homes and made their entire country into a war torn hell and given them nothing but revenge to live for. You're insane to think otherwise.

You're just one of the anti rand crowd who can't appreciate a good thing because of your collectivism and needs to find some way to insult him.

Pot, meet kettle

"You're just one of the anti rand crowd who can't appreciate a good thing because of your collectivism"

First of all, that doesn't even make sense. Do you even know what collectivism means? Second, you're making a boatload of assumptions about the other poster's thoughts and motivations. Lastly, not everyone loves Rand and agrees with him just because. Deal with it.

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'Meet the Depressed', ha, nice skit title possibly.

Rock on!!

kind people rock

Great speaker

I love the way Rand is able to take and field a question and actually say something that makes sense.

Rand Paul

is smarter than you people think.... Highly clever

"Rand Paul: Dick Cheney

"Rand Paul: Dick Cheney brought about chaos in Iraq, not Obama"

I must be really dumb because I didn't hear him say that at all, or even close to that.. Someone point to that please...

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

He didn't say it

The op just titled it that to get people to read it.

Excellent Strategy

By denouncing the Iraq War Rand puts his 2016 primary challengers as well as The Wife of Bill on the defensive. They ALL voted for the war.

Rand Paul is not attacking Cheney, he will be dead in a few years. By discrediting Cheney he can then label all his opponents as having voted with Cheney. That's a kiss of death with the majority of Americans.

Excellent strategy.

"One resists the invasion of armies; one does not resist the invasion of ideas" Victor Hugo

this post is misleading

He said questions should be asked...not that Dick brought chaos. He's walking a fine line in getting ready for 2016. You are painting a picture that exists in your head...not the scene directly in front of you.

The titles here on DP are just as misleading as MSM...

yeah but he also said

he blames the Iraq War and the people who supported it for the chaos in the Middle East and emboldening Iran.

not yeah.

You are still being misleading, even after admitting it. There is no justification for it.

Dick may have been the 'architect'. But the majority of congress agreed. and many Americans also agreed. You're making it sound like the people only incude Dick, and that Rand has sided against only him and blamed only him. In reality, he blamed everyone.

I dont think the world needs to be policed...but this sort of misinformation is what got us here to begin with.

What is your agenda? The truth would be better for everyone...not this bias crap.

Just admit you will never support Rand, because of his

supporting Romney in 2012 instead of his Dad!

What's the difference between your stance and hardcore Democrats or neocons, they will never change because they believe their party has all the answers.

By not supporting Rand your giving more support to these hardcore factions!

Rand is for ending the FED, that should be enough to get every libertarian on board, but you are hung up in 2012.

Gold standard: because man can not be trusted to control his greed

He is an idiot ...

Not supporting rand after his meaningless endorsement of Romney. which he said he would endorse the GOP nominee no mater who it was before the election cycle, and that's just what he did!

Ill say this for the tenth time...Ron Paul: I do not know what people want to drive a wedge between Rand and I ,because we agree on 99% of the issues.

Rand supported his dad until they knew he wasn't going to win and Ron has no issue with it...so why should he?

Does he really think Ron could win with the system the way it is now?? Even if he did make potus and buck the system.. he would be assassinated and we all know that! Ron opened the door for rand and changed a lot of minds so that the people will be ready for a Rand..and the PTB wont dare touch him!

Rand is the best horse in the race and the only difference is Rand is better at playing politics than his father...and how far gone things are now...this is what we need!

Rand appeals to larger crowds than his father and is playing 3 sided chess.

That being said no one is Dr. Ron Paul...he is a legend and stood up to the establishment and remained pure to the end...predicted the future and he will always be the modern day thomas Jefferson.

Rand is more clever and a little more street smart...but make no mistake who's side he is on! I stand with Rand!

Our founding fathers are rolling in their graves...the land of liberty needs a regime change!

Rand is correct on this. These very issues are where he will...

...run into opposition in the GOP if he runs in 2016.

It will be the same old mantra from GOP Arab-hating, war-lovers:
"I like Ron/Rand Paul but I disagree with him on foreign policy"

Translation: The United States should kill Arabs any chance they get, and simply say they did it in the name of "national defense."

This is idealogy of today's republican party.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Wow, just when I was starting to doubt Rand...

he comes through...I am very impressed with him. The neo cons are going to come after him full-bore, but I don't think there is anyone other than the war-mongerers who really want to side with Dick Cheney on anything. (or his daughter).

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Glad you can see that now.

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Stomp Darth Daddy into the

Stomp Darth Daddy into the dirt! And his spawn, Lizardly.

Sounds Like Pop

I am generally turned off by Rand, especially because he seems to be pandering to Neocons more and more.

But this very much sounds like Ron Paul, and impressively so.

This is trending as a Top

This is trending as a Top Story on USAToday. He will surely take heat for this but the upside is huge.

http://onpolitics.usatoday.com/2014/06/20/rand-paul-iraq-oba...

10-15 million more voters need to believe in non-interventionism (liberty) at home and abroad to change America. Minds changed on Syria. Minds changing on privacy. "Printing money" is part of the dialogue. Win minds through focus, strategy.

Neoconservatives are not to

Neoconservatives are not to be underestimated, but June is shaping up as worst-month-ever for them. Not only is the Iraq mess going to land in their laps, but the one National politician who knows that they deserve the blame is saying so on Meet the Press, AND is among the leaders in all GOP presidential polls. Rand is going after everyone who was for the Iraq war, I f-cking love it. Still tricky terrain though, can't get overconfident.

10-15 million more voters need to believe in non-interventionism (liberty) at home and abroad to change America. Minds changed on Syria. Minds changing on privacy. "Printing money" is part of the dialogue. Win minds through focus, strategy.

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It's a good one too, thank

It's a good one too, thank you.

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