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Can you imagine existence without humanity?

No, you can't. It is utterly impossible. Why? Can you elaborate on the importance of this concept?

Edit and update for a question that might actually get people to make attempts at answers: Can you imagine humanity without existence?: this question is just as important as the one above it!

*Update* The answer is: You are human. If you say that you can imagine existence without humanity, then you have denied the existence of your human self. It is impossible to make a human interpretation without a human--this is an absolute tautological truth and the importance of the realization is massive. If you "imagine" then you require, in no uncertain terms, a human--specifically, your self.

If you answer "yes" to the question in the title of the OP, then you are claiming that you are not human.

I'm trying to tell you how important you are!

If anyone is uncertain about this then I would be happy to further explain!



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Can you imagine a world without any hypothetical situations?

Can you imagine a world without any hypothetical situations?

Death to all pandas

Asclepius's picture

But, you are presenting a fallacy of false choice...

Also called black-and/or-white thinking, the either-or fallacy, false dichotomy, fallacy of exhaustive hypotheses, or the fallacy of the false alternative. It is a type of informal fallacy that involves a situation in which limited alternatives are considered, when in fact there is at least one additional option.

In this case, one can be a human biologically, but have very little or no "humanity" as a virtue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanity_(virtue)

So, yes, it is quite possible to imagine a world that has lost much of its "humanity" as a virtue. Historically, this happens as an empire begin to collapse. Consider the inhuman atrocities that occurred during the fall of the Roman, Mayan, and Aztec empires.

I admire your faith that all humans must have some virtue of humanity in order to be "human" and we certainly should strive to maximize this virtue as a species, but there are forces in this world that work against this objective and being aware of this fact is of utmost importance to humanity's survival.

Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery; none but ourselves can free our minds. - Bob Marley

Cyril's picture

Existence without humanity? Sure, it's been done before.

Existence without humanity?

Sure, it's been done before. It's (reportedly) unpleasant, yet in a weird kind of way, considering it was first advertised as for "everybody's safety" and a desirable "welfare society":

Cf. the cleansing of reactionaries in la Guerre de Vendee (France), the Nazis' camps (Germany, Poland), Mussolini's (Italy), the Soviet gulags (Russia), the Stasi's centers (East Germany), Mao's camps (China), Pol Pot's (Cambodia), etc. You name them.

Still today, in North Korea, they're running such experimental resorts.

The common attribute of those is they tend to make the (inhumane) existence somewhat shorter, but physically a lot more "interesting" (read: challenging) - for a significant number of people at a time.

Hopefully, we shall soon have the great opportunity to know about how these experiments work out for us here, in America, in turn.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Cyril's picture

I can't wait.

I can't wait.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

What a stupid waste of time

If you laid out the timeline for life on Earth and stretched it to a football field, humans have existed for about 1/4 of a single yard out of 100 yards. So yes, it is easy to "imagine".

Now to your metaphysical response about how dinosaurs only existed because we found their bones.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

*Update* The answer is:

*Update* The answer is: You are human. If you say that you can imagine existence without humanity, then you have denied the existence of your human self. It is impossible to make a human interpretation without a human--this is an absolute tautological truth and the importance of the realization is massive. If you "imagine" then you require, in no uncertain terms, a human--specifically, your self.

If you answer "yes" to the question in the title of the OP, then you are claiming that you are not human.

I'm trying to tell you how important you are!

If anyone is uncertain about this then I would be happy to further explain!

imagine existence without humans...got it. Doing it right now.

let me know when you do your big reveal.
I would like to know what your observation is.

I would like to add that, if

I would like to add that, if you say that you have imagined existence without humanity, you have failed miserably. :) I don't intend to be mean, I'm just having good fun!

Would you like a private

Would you like a private message upon the revelation? Im not sure I would do that. LOL!

sure, send it my way.

I really would. Thanks

I can imagine it...

Some days I think I'm living in it.

No, you have never imagined

No, you have never imagined it!

imagine humanity

without Obombya !

I have, and unfortunately it

I have, and unfortunately it was not so much different than things are now. If you think a change in the president is the answer, then you're probably mistaken. New presidents tend to be same as old.

Quantum physics suggests that

Quantum physics suggests that matter only takes shape when observed (or if it will be observed, depending on your interpretation). I think this ability to "observe" and force existence to take shape makes us sentient. The sentience is required for existence, if that is what you call humanity.

It is interesting to note that either god has disqualified himself from this category or he is not all-seeing or he is not there. Otherwise, our scientific studies that show different results when something is observed versus not observed would always return as observed due to an ever-present observer.

I would like to add that

I would like to add that there is no study that shows observation vs. non-observation.

Did you think you needed

Did you think you needed quantum physics to tell you this? It seems obvious to me, although I might put it in different words.

First, is that humanity, or

First, is that humanity, or humans?
Without humans, I imagine it would be much like those nature shows you see where life goes on.
Without humanity, well than its survival of the fittest and I think we wouldnt see any hospitals or at least there wouldnt be any care beyond things for basic injuries. The population would be smaller and in general this would strike me as a world without much if any emotion.(example, the movie Equilibrium)

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

Can humanity be without

Can humanity be without humans?

The obvious answer is no. And

The obvious answer is no. And if it were possessed by aliens calling themselves Wertisons they would probably call it Wertisonity.
But my question was, did you mean no humans, or lack of that human 'quality'.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

I meant no humans.

I meant no humans.

The human race isnt the only

The human race isnt the only life in existance. If no other intelligent species were to come upon earth, life would continue on this planet until finally it was all snuffed out once the sun got too hot for the planet and all the water vaporized away in about 1-1.5 billion years from now. The universe would continue onwards as it always has. Other star systems would form etc etc. And assuming the trend that astronomers seen is correct, the universe may end in about 50-60 billion years from now. There is also signs that everything in the universe is being drawn to a point about 40 billion light years away from us. Perhaps the universe doesnt have an end, maybe we will know one day.

Why is it hard for people to imagine there being no people? Well, it requires stepping outside of everything they know and have experienced. It is an exercise in abstract thought that asks you to completely remove yourself from it as well as any other person.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

I think you're right, except

I think you're right, except for your pretension that it is possible to imagine a world without humanity. You haven't. You can't. You never will.

Unless you are not human.

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Are you the guy in the commercial who says, "Ha ha,

madest thou look"? Is this a philosophical question or a joke?

Being human, I am able to imagine lots of things. If I weren't human, I wouldn't imagine anything.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

You've touched on it, but to

You've touched on it, but to answer your question: I would say that this is more philosophical than a joke, although I hope that it could be either!

Can you imagine existence

Can you imagine existence without bowel movements?

bigmikedude's picture

That would be a sad world where

magazines were illogical, pointless, and of no purpose.

Then everybody

would be full of s-h-i-t.

We'd have to discuss: "what

We'd have to discuss: "what is a bowel movement?" But my initial reaction is: NO WAY!