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Bill Maher and Iraq vet try to take down Glenn Greenwald, but fail badly

‘Bullsh*t!’ Greenwald and Iraq Vet Blow Up on Real Time over Snowden Leaks
by Josh Feldman | 10:53 pm, June 20th, 2014

During Friday night’s Real Time, Glenn Greenwald battled Paul Rieckhoff, Iraq War veteran and founder of Iraq and Afghansitan Veterans of America, in a massive shouting match over whether Edward Snowden‘s leaks damaged the country and helped the terrorists. And even Bill Maher had to push back on Greenwald, citing a Bush-era national security official he trusts who said Snowden actually did help the terrorists.

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Greenwald, Rolled them and SMOKED THEM!!!!!!!!!!!


B A M !

Day long buzz

Terrible rebuttal by Maher @ 6:25

"If they [people killed because of Snowden's leaks] were in the CIA, we would never know."

And how do we know that the CIA is telling the truth about every single one of their agent's deaths? (Especially if it were politically motivated or dealing with a Coup in another Country that violates treaty upon treaty)

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

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These people are desperate to win the 'gotcha' golden carrot.

They want to win the prize of whatever was offered to them to make Glenn Greenwald look bad or especially if they made him into a fool. The lowness that these people are willing to go to accomplish this feat is astounding. In the process, they expose their erroneous thinking that Greenwald easily refutes.

These same faulty attacks have been repeatedly used against Ron Paul with the same failing results.

How dumb

Baldy: Snowden's hiding in Russia.

Glen: That's bull.

Baldy: Why make this about Snowden?

This was outright embarrassing on Maher's end.

This is probably the worst fit of selective skepticism I've ever seen out of Maher, and he's been bad on this angle at times. This is like not believing in the invisible pink unicorn but suddenly concurring with the invisible pink camel. Unless the government starts giving names or at least statistics of people that have actually died because Snowden leaked the fact that the NSA has a huge, ubiquitous data-mining program on just about everybody living in America, I'm calling B.S., as should any other rational human being.

“My attitude toward progress has passed from antagonism to boredom. I have long ceased to argue with people who prefer Thursday to Wednesday because it is Thursday.” - G.K. Chesterton

No evidence...

There's no evidence that anyone has died because of Snowden but there is evidence that 4,486 Americans died in Iraq because of Cheney and Bush. And even if there had been a few casualties due to the New York Times, Guardian and Washington Post deciding what to publish from Snowden, their deaths would be the fault of the NSA.

What have we accomplished in Iraq?

What has Snowden accomplished?

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If Americans were killed

If Americans were killed during Snowden's resistance to the American government's attack on it's own citizens, aren't they heroistic war dead?

I did not hear a single cheer

I did not hear a single cheer for Maher or Baldie... Weak @$$ logical fallacy bs.

This is All BS

Are !@#$ing American Government puts American at RISK. We have !@#$ing Brain Dead Americans.

The argument that it put American lives at risk

is so outrageous. If they government is doing something wrong and people knowing that will put their people at risk, that's something they need to consider, not the whistleblowers. I dont want anyone to die, but im sorry, if the government if doing secret stuff behind our backs we should know about it.

Say the government was secretly putting chemicals in the drinking water of the residents of San Antonio to make them have long term effects and revealing that would cost the lives of a couple of agents. Thats not an excuse to keep doing it! maybe you just shouldn't do it in the first place!

Whatta bunch of tools...

all of them...except Greenwald...watch body language, the biggest give away there is.

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Darn. Bill Maher gives a really bad name to wh***s!

Darn. Bill Maher gives a really bad name to wh***s!

What a fraud he's "become".

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Worst part of the "Snowden caused deaths" argument?

Nobody has produced any evidence to support those claims. Nothing.

Maher referenced the CIA wall of fallen agents *after* I tweeted this:


You Can't Prove A Negative

How exactly do you prove a negative like that? The burden of proof lies with the person making the accusation. That is like saying prove to me space aliens didn't ever visit Earth. I am sorry it doesn't work like that. If you think space aliens visited Earth, YOU are the one that needs the evidence.


in stating trust your government...priceless!

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If in doubt.....

Trust your government!

Government is now the national religion. Just have faith!

And by the way, even if there were deaths from the release of information, so what? We send soldiers to die, supposedly for freedom. How would this be any different?

So, apparently, if an action that is claimed to be for freedom results in death, we should end it? Well, let's bring the troops home!

Baldy needs to grow a brain.

It's terrible that these goons don't have any open-mindedness to the debate...Baldy takes what Richard Clark had to say as gospel truth, without a thread of evidence.
Just spout garbage and he believes it.
Every time Glen Greenwald has an interview on this topic, he is always attacked by dumbasses like Baldy...Always try to distract with false accusations and the dumbass host should be supportive of what Glen has to say...Looks like these goons do not support the rights of the people, or the Constitution.
Too afraid they might end up on some Gov't list I suppose.

Somehow, back when BM had the

Somehow, back when BM had the politically incorrect show, somehow I was under the impression that he was a libertarian...then he morphed into a lefty...and now he is a neocon???


He is an independent thinker that was mislead by a person spreading propaganda. But, there may be nothing good about someone who shifts with the way the wind is blowing!

surfing today

i ended up at some website that were not fans of greenwald/snowden and they covered this story the complete opposite. they had the marine and maher crushing greenwald. one commenter was so thrilled he said now he would have a good weekend seeing the GG was put in his place. completely delusional, or just such a jaded agenda nothing maters?
thing is, only GG got applause, and strong applause at that.


Baldy there was acting like a child.

Baldy: "American lives were put at risk!"

Greenwald: "where is the evidence of that?"

Baldy; "where is your evidence"

Greenwald: "you made the accusation."

Baldy: "your ugly"

What a child




Stop giving them hits, searches, ratings, etc...

They will wither and die.

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Glenn Greenwald is AMAZING.


Google is government.

Yes he is!


BM is a Time Warner/ HBO puppet, just like his cronies at CNN,

also owned by Time Warner...

Glen is defiantly the smartest person in the room and could win any argument they could muster 24/7/365.


Maher... Under is breath "I agree with that.. In theory"

I.e. In practice he doesn't.


Maher is a troll and the more people watch his show the more he will act like one.

Maher is a slavish tool and fan of power

he worships the status state that supports his views that people should be told what to do as long it is what he agrees with!

Conscience does not exist if not exercised

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