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That's it. The towel is in. I quit growing corn.

Three out of four years now. Six foot high beautiful corn, so dark green it's almost black, just ready to start tasseling, and Voila!

Boom Boom! Rivers through the yard! Whoosh! And in one brief 30 second down burst of wind, an entire season of work is waste.

I've about had it with these thunderstorms and deluges of three inches in an hour here.

I quit. I'm never growing corn again. Unless I run snow fence along every row and staple it to the damn fence as it grows.

*yells* And who's the idiot that thought corn should grow seven or eight feet tall when they hybridized it!

End rant.

Have a big LOL! at life and luck, and a nice evening.

Now I'll have to run off all those nut job crop circle people that drive by and stop to get all spiritual and hippied out for the next month.

And all the college paleontology majors that think they discovered a Pterodactyl Nest.

And those pain in the ass lunatic Bigfoot Hunters that say to the driver "DUDE!" "Stop!" "There's a bed-down." And start making silly monkey yells and noises and clacking sticks together in the front yard at 2 in the morning.



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Maybe that's a good thing... about not growin' corn no mo'

When the news was posted here at the DP that Mexico had banned GMO corn, I didn't appreciate this negative comment by js290 saying, "Corn isn't that great. Not sure non-GMO corn is much better,"... even with its more positive sounding conclusion, "Maybe should try for a sustainable, perennial source of starch." :(

Plus, I thought it was a little nervy to give no further hint, even, of an explanation... unless the reader was willing to make a TWO AND A HALF HOUR time investment (!) to watch the linked video. Yeah, get real, I thought. But my curiosity got the better of me. And... wow!

Maybe you're already familiar with RESTORATIVE AGRICULTURE, or PERMACULTURE. But if not, I hope you'll make yourself a bowl of popcorn--- or maybe get yourself a bowl of mixed nuts! - and check out the video. [For me, it was just the beginning of a wonderfully uplifting exploration - around the globe.] Oh, I also now see his book.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb_t-sVVzF0#t=0

http://www.amazon.com/Restoration-Agriculture-Mark-Shepard/d...

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

corn update

I was thinking my corn was looking pretty tall, so I went out with a tape measure a couple days ago. The measurement I got on the tallest stalk was 14 feet. It rained yesterday, and I went back with one of my children and measured that tallest stalk again today. 14' 5". I'm not attempting any special treatment to deter the corn borers, and I know there were some in the starting stalks, so it will be interesting to see the effects on the harvest.

Corn is Not Human Food

I gave up eating corn around 1999. (I still get some traces of it; it's in EVERYTHING: some pickles, table salt, "old-fashioned" lemonade; honey-mustard dressing is often 95% or more corn--hard to avoid.)

Dr. D'Adamo pointed out that the fossil record of corn is not good for humans: when introduced into the diet about 10,000 years ago, periodontal and other bone diseases jumped.

Many people have a respect for native cultural traditional foods, and corn is one of those (it's even sacred), however, you can see the problem: what if their politicians came up with the idea of what should be eaten? Is there any guarantee they knew what they were doing? Lots of bad foods can delay starvation, but that's a pretty low bar.

Yes, sometimes cultures know what's wrong with a food (did you know we all have anti-bodies to pork?), but not always. Corn can be rendered less bad when processed with lime (the mineral, not the fruit), as some cultures did it, but it's not really a good food for people (or cattle).

Don't mourn the corn.

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Mike, it should stand

back up if you get enough sun. Just harvested all of mine. Got about 400 ears. Lost about 20% for the same reason. Back to back to back storms. The ones I lost just couldn't take it anymore. My stalks were about 14 feet high. Think I planted on a full moon.

Made about 350 pounds of tomatoes so far. Just finished the salsa this past Sunday.

Jim

1976-1982 USMC, Having my hands in the soil keeps me from soiling my hands on useless politicians.

I'm 6'1"

questions

Mind if I ask some questions?

What is the spacing on your corn? Do you get a lot of ears to harvest? What fertilizer do you use?

I was thinking I planted mine too close at about 18" (both between rows and between plants). It's done OK, and I only use a little natural fertilizer and it's planted in virgin soil just cleared two years ago, but I was thinking to increase the spacing next time I grow corn, which will probably be in a couple years. I'm thinking to increase spacing both to give it more room and to give me more room for access for weeding and fertilizing.

A friend told me that most of the really close planted stuff we have around here is for ethanol. Does anyone know if that is correct?

Dude! That's insane !!

Are you sure you're not wearing your shoes on your knees to fool us?

That's awesome!

Is there a little hill behind the first row?

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ

No hill in fact we use this

No hill in fact we use this section for a runway between seasons. (bush planes).

They should stand back up

They should stand back up once they get some good sun, but at that stage they may not do so well.

My first set of corn got beat up and knocked down twice in about a weeks time. It was at about the point yours is, and it never fully recovered. The ears seem short and arent filling out well on most plants. But my 2nd and 3rd patches recovered no problem and are thriving so far.

It's generally a lost cause

It's generally a lost cause for a feild of corn. Maybe a small garden may be worth the effort. We collect insurance on a feild that would resemble the OP's damage.

maybe Monsanto will make a "corn"

with a tree-like, bark covered stalk...we can only hope ;- /

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Naw, they don't want to improve the plant

they just want to sell their crappy herbicide.

Actually, GMOs could be used for good, to make better plants that produced more nutritious vegatables, with less fertilizer and water.

But nope, they just make it resistant to roundup - and other effects on the plant be damned.

Hey BMike! Try this.....

If you have any fences(or the side of your house) that get a lot of sun, plant the corn in a row next to the fence , or house wall. (any wall) about a foot or more away from wall/fence. While you may not have as much corn to harvest(at least enough to eat though) You will most likely have it survive the winds. I did this a few years ago, and they all survived!

Good Luck! (may still have time for a mini crop now, if you plant right away)

Mike, I am having the same problem

I bought cheap tomato stakes and individually staked the stalks that got blown over. It's a pain in the ass, but so far it's working. But my corn area is not that big, so it may not be practical for huge plots. You could also just stake the row ends with sturdy stakes and run bank line or something similar between the stakes.

Also, I am growing Candy Roaster squash with the corn and the squash tendrils wrap around the stalks and seem to act as a stabilizer. Runner beans, on the other hand, end up pulling the stalks down, so I only do two of the three sisters.

I agree that corn should not be that tall. This year, I am trying to grow flint corn, which only gets 5 feet tall.

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Wow. Really flat corn. Maybe

Wow. Really flat corn.
Maybe a t-post on both ends of each row with twine on both sides of the stalks would help?

It's happened to me. Stand

It's happened to me. Stand those stalks back up asap with cane or bamboo. You don't need a pole for each individual plant, you just want them back up in bunches and they'll keep growing just fine. Albeit a little sideways, but you still get a crop.

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Looks like too much

nitrogen,tall stalks,dark green,but way too tall
D

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

corn needs a fuckton of nitrogen

not enough nitrogen and the stalks get weak

“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants.” — Albert Camus

There's always something with corn...

when I grew it, the night before you were going to go pick it, the deer would discover it and take it all!! I mean, the day before, I would check the corn, and think, tomorrow it will be perfect, then poof...all gone. Where I live, it's the opposite problem: we just had the first real rain of the summer about an hour ago; it rained an hour, hard, thank you God!!!

It's going to continue

and get worse.
Instead of pointing it's fingers at itself about why the weather is changing, we ought to be preparing.

Climate change will only get more severe.

My personal belief is that in 10 or 20 years we will find ourselves in a mini-ice age.

Humanity as a whole should be preparing for this; mankind will not stop it, no matter how much carbon tax they apply.

Sorry about your crops though. Can it be grown near a tall, wire fence? if it can lean against something during the strong winds, can it survive? I'm no farmer. ;)

Just open the box and see

I'm goin crazy over a rabbit that keeps eating all my cucumbers

and melon plants.

The little bastard is Bugs Bunny. And I am Elmer Fudd.

Wasted the whole season's growth of those plants. I feel your pain, though my plants didn't get near as big and healthy yours.

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fence the area

nothing else works

“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants.” — Albert Camus

Oh, I did... it eats through the plastic fencing...

I've patched the holes with some success, but after a few days another appears, and a little more gets eaten. The cat is no help either. Too lazy, lousy hunter.

The bee bee gun is the tool for the job, but he is one elusive rabbit.

I am like Bill Murray trying to kill the gopher in Caddy Shack.

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yeah, you need metal mesh

at least two feet tall

“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants.” — Albert Camus

shooting it works

and then put its head on a stake in the garden to warn the other rabbits.

a dog will keep it away and maybe kill it, Cats will kill all of its babies and chase it away.

Red tail hawks love rabbits, but they are hard to keep around.

My cat is useless...

The rabbit came bursting out of the garden the other day when I went to let the cat out and noticed some of the growth was eaten away... I ran at the garden and the rabbit came bursting out, flying through a hole in the fence right past me... Scared the cat so bad it's tail puffed up and hair stood up on it's back, and he ran to the door to be let back in... Unbelievable... I still love him though...lol

Neighbors are too close to use my shotgun so I am to use a bee bee gun, but the rabbit is one elusive SOB.

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Good luck taking down a rabbit with a bee bee gun

What the hell is a bee bee gun anyway?

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

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Lol...

Actually it's a pellet gun, not a "BB" gun.

It's a .177cal pump... Pump it like 10-12 times and it's pretty powerful and will easily kill a rabbit... If I can hit it.

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A gun that shoots bees...

A gun that shoots bees...

Beware the cult of "government"...