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Rand Paul: "Amazing resistance from both Republicans and Democrats" to the Stand With Israel Act.

Rand Paul: "Amazing resistance from both republicans and democrats" to the Stand With Israel Act.

Listen @ 1:10 mark:

http://www.mikeonline.com/taxpayer-money-may-going-terrorist...

Anyone care to sort this one out?

My answer: Hamas is controlled opposition, that's why AIPAC opposes the Stand With Israel Act. AIPAC represents the Israeli government. They want US foreign aid to flow to Palestine, so it can flow to Hamas, so Hamas can use the money to attack Israel, so the Israeli military-industrial complex will have an "enemy" to fight. Wake up!

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He Is Indeed

In his interview with Ben Shapiro of Breitbart.com, Rand said that ultimately he would like to see an end to all aid, including to Israel.

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"Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard

Just an FYI, the current

Just an FYI, the current budget for foreign aid is around $70 billion. In Rand's 2011 budget, he reduced it to aero. In his 2013 budget, he reduced it to $5 billion.

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What does it

mean to 'Stand with Israel'? Here's a look by Anthony Lawson, a former would reknown jingle writer, who first hand saw the Jewish states prowess throughout the world, and upon retirement decided to document the unreported events by the Zionist controlled media. This video is titled 'What does it mean to be a friend of Israel'?
http://youtu.be/DhwW9JFEGkI

I believe Rand did this, because he has bought into the Zionist myth. But, he has found out that the majority of the collective supports Israel, and he has found out it's not just about the narrative of 'homeland for the Jews', it's about the Israeli/MIC propaganda campaign, to promote continous warfare in the Middle East. However, he is now caught in the Zionism trap, where he must continue to support the aparteid state if he wants to get support of the appostate evengelicals for a presidential run.

I am (slowly) learning not to question Rand's strategies anymore

At first I thought this was ridiculous - to STAND with Israel as Rand proposed.

But the fact that the GOP is resisting this tells me it may be a good move.

I THINK Rand is bringing to light the folly of foreign aid.

It just happens to be Palestine he's using as an example.

But I THINK and HOPE Rand is just as much against ANY aid to Israel too.

I think it's a chess move.

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The Muddled East - The Perfect Establishment war.

The Establishment power brokers of the U.S. military-industrial-Wall Street-banking-political-complex have a never ending supply of suicidal Semites threatening other homicidal Semites and their chief ally the U.S. military and banks. The EPB has managed to create the perfect scenario for a never ending war with a never ending back lash to respond to.

The Palestinian war is just frosting on the cake except that now Israeli youth's blood may be shed instead of our youth's blood. So far it is kinda lopsided with eighty mostly civilian Palestinian dead compared to three Israeli dead.

The never ending war that the EPB has going makes the power broker profiteers salivate every time there's an explosion. They know that regardless of whose bomb it is they provided it

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Rand Paul: Via PA, US May Be

Rand Paul: Via PA, US May Be Funding Hamas

At least some of the money the US giving to the PA each year is making its way to Hamas, says a US Senator

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/182734#.U79...

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Come on fellas. We covered this once before in another thread.

Its very simple.

If the US cuts aid to the Palestinians, then Israel will be obligated to spend billion of dollars of their own money, to provide basic necessities to the Palestinians.

And Israel sure doesn't want to have to spend its own money.

THATS why Israel and all organizations Jewish don't want this measure passed.

Rand Paul is trying to cut

Rand Paul is trying to cut foreign aid! Bad, bad, boy! Only NeoCons think we should cut off aid to anyone besides Israel!

(Sarcasm off)

Sen. Rand Paul today issued a

Sen. Rand Paul today issued a letter to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman, Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), and Ranking Member, Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), requesting committee action on the Stand with Israel Act.

http://www.randpaul2016.com/2014/07/senator-rand-paul-reques...

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What a bunch of hog wash.

SO we have a family of bully's that has moved in the neighborhood and has stolen 80% of the neighbors homes murdered most of them and continues to act like a bunch of rabid animals.

Now the big bank who has been giving money to both sides, whats left of the original people that lived in the area and the family of supremest, racist, bullies, this big bank says we stand with the bullies and will stop giving any money to those victims who still live in the area and are being persecuted by the supremest, racist, bully family.

The rational is that we keep giving money to the criminals and stop all aid to the victims because NOW THE RACIST SUPREMEST BULLY FAMILY WILL NO LONGER HAVE AN EXCUSE TO ABUSE? INSANE LOGIC!

To stop the problem you have to stop ROTHSCHILD.

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And all the lamenting Paul's

And all the lamenting Paul's recently done over Israel's "restrained" policy toward the Palestinians? What of that? Is his support of Israeli "crackdown" some sort of brilliant subversive strategy even when it's currently resulting in the bombing and looming invasion of Gaza?

Simple ...

... if the US cuts off the cash flow, then Israel becomes legally obligated to send the money instead.

Neocons don't want Israel to have to pay anything.

It was a clever idea by Rand, but he didn't get it past them, hasn't really made much in the way of political points with it, and now they are on alert against him (of course, they always have been, but this really made them notice he was smarter than they thought).

He is gaining points with the

He is gaining points with the more mainstream gop voters, not the establishment leaders. Interesting strategy.

lol

Yep :-)

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Down voted because you called Rand a troll.

...just kidding! ;-)

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Well, maybe, if we start cutting foreign aid

to any country, then we may end up cutting aid to all of them, including israel, and AIPAC won't allow that to happen.

So just be quiet children, and let the folks who own your leaders call the shots. Just keep sending that money....and quit your whining.

AIPAC does NOT represent the Israeli government...

AIPAC represents the private GLOBAL MIC BUSINESS PARTNERSHIP between partners in the U.S. & Israel.

OP said this:

"AIPAC represents the Israeli government.
They want US foreign aid to flow to Palestine, so it can flow to Hamas, so Hamas can use the money to attack Israel, so the Israeli military-industrial complex will have an "enemy" to fight. Wake up!"

Close, but you're missing a few major points...

It makes no sense from the standpoint of the Israeli civil government. Funding a terrorist insurgency against themselves and their people is not profitable, nor wise. Especially when you are a tiny nation the size of New Jersey, surrounded by much larger hostile nations, and you could personally be targeted.
Also, the military industrial complex is an international corporatist, semi-private entity, and it's economic and political infrastructure extends far beyond one or two nations.

However, the OP's premise does make sense if you consider that AIPAC does NOT represent the Israeli government, but represents the private globalist MIC partnership, WHO ACTUALLY DO PROFIT from sending American tax-payer dollars ('aid') to "controlled opposition" forces such as Hamas, in order to keep the conflict (and the profits) going strong.

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The Israeli government represents someone...

Nutmanyahu [sic] represents Israel, just like Obama represents the United States, like it or not, AIPAC represents "Israel's interest" --does this word play work for you? Give me a BREAK! AIPAC and all the Jewish lobbies represent Israel's interests--NOT the United States's--just go read all the crap Bills and laws passed by the Congressional-whored-n-pimps on Israel's behalf! Here's a disgusting one for you to lick at--Public Law 112-150 is absolutely horrific AND IT IS FOR ISRAEL with our blood and money! Keep your word play for the stupid. "Private globalist MIC partnership"--give me a break--if it does not serve Israel's interests *first* the MIC wouldn't have a market! PLEASEEEE! A lot of the for-Israel-Bills and laws are apart from the MIC--NO ONE would roll in sh*t unless it serves some self purpose!

I say: if you can't make it better, don't make it worst!

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I agree with your assessment

Controlled opposition is necessary to perpetuate the cycle of violence.
Create incite and control 'the problem', exploit the reaction and implement the solution..which is NOT for a peaceful resolution.

Here is an excellent article by Justin Raimondo, take a few minutes and read the whole thing.
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2014/07/08/who-started-th...

If Wars Can Be Started by Lies, They Can Be Stopped By Truth.

The Reason

The reason they're resisting it is because Rand is the sponsor. Dems don't want him to gain traction prior to 2016 and neither do the establishment Republicans.

Remember one of the favorite criticisms levied against Congressmen who run for POTUS is that they've never sponsored/passed any key legislation. This would be a feather in Rand's cap and a chance for him to show how Pro-Israel he is. Maybe if he can get some street cred with Israel the media won't constantly lie about and smear him like they did to his father.

He wins either way. He either

He wins either way. He either completely shuts down any against israel talk or he gets a key peice of legislation and shuts down all against israel talk.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

Well asked, Mike, well answered, Rand

How we wish it wasn't needed to be answered this way. Self-evident, EH?

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Peace to all nations

monetary aid to none.

“The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time: the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them.”

– Thomas Jefferson

Good slogan.

Even a nice bumper sticker.

Hamas is not controlled opposition...

They are the only real organization fighting for a free Palestine. The PA and Mahmoud Abbas are anti-free palestine/israeli puppets who have no interest to be in the coalition government that they were forced into recently with Hamas.

As far as why aid needs to keep flowing? Maybe because without US aid Israel would be held to a higher standard when engaging in the destructive behavior they are in. Maybe because the puppet PA which is really only concerned with doing Netanyahu's bidding and getting paid off for it would have a harder time managing the task and Israel would have to foot the bill for all the carnage the state of Israel has wrought on the Palestinian people.

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It's not just Hamas--it every fair minded human being...

I am at awe how much sh*t the Palestinian have taken: Palestinians drop in a ratio of 1 Israeli to 100 Palestinians, a 1:100 ratio: Palestinians live with the Jews for thousands of years peacefully until the mid 1900's when the pretend-jews were called to Palestine enmasse then with the U.S. backing Palestinians lost rights, home, land, life, basic necessities of life like water, electricity, etc. I didn't start out hating Israel--I felt bad for the Jews but the wanting more and more--greed factor is endless. Look what happened in the U.S.--these zio-fuks are in permanent denial, it ain't us with the cookies in their mouths and their heads jammed into the jar! They take over the schools to teach the holocourse [sic] and how the jews had suffered but later for American history like the slave trade or the Native American plight--using the media and education to mislead, redirect, misguide young minds to think on behalf of Israel! Soon the American flag would have one star--but they'll allow us to keep the red, white, and blue. (Iran has the world 2nd largest Jewish community and they are tight, solid--they don't have this sh*t these Zio-israeli-jews-fuk-god-devils running that country! The Jews in Iran say they are Iranians like the many different people and races in the United States say we are Americans. But the zio-Jews in America aren't Americans, they are Semites because whenever you say anything that tickles they're a** they call you an anti-Semite--NOT anti-American--WORD PROOF for their word play! Iranians, Arabs, Palestinians, people in Norther Africa, Hebrews, are the real Semites--not the mixed-up-confuse-Israeli me-me-jews!

I say: if you can't make it better, don't make it worst!