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First Factions Fight Club

Thanks to Bill3 for reminding us what Fight Club is NOT about. Factions Fight Club is not about name calling. Leave that to the little children.

If there is one misunderstand, then there may be more. Therefore, the First Factions Fight Club (F4) will be an examination of the definition, nature, and function of factions.

At its most basic level, a faction is a group within a larger group. Factions themselves can contain sub-factions: Groups within groups within groups.

Factions are collectivist organizations in which the group assumes a higher importance than the individual. Dissenting members are expelled and attacked by factions.

Factions serve a variety of functions, but the the first rule of being a faction member is that you always protect the faction.

More discussion tonight - 9pm here, in the Hidden Knowledge forum.

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as a musician I force myself to listen to an hour of music

every day that I hate.I find that I learn as much from what I like as from what I don't like.

transitioning the metaphor, well, I think you can see where I'm going with this. You idiot.

Chris Indeedski!

Daily Paul cured my abibliophobia.

Great idea

Whom ever thought this up did good!

Plantin the seeds for our Savior. In the End Jesus wins!

I think this thread could serve as an effective sounding board

for frustrations.

The question I have is - does what happens in the Fight Club stay at the Fight Club? For instance, beyond profane personal attacks, will there be any banning for harsh, yet constructive, criticism of ideas?

Michael Nystrom's picture

There should be no profane personal attacks

What good would that do?

If you are attempting to communicate constructive criticism, what is the point in being harsh?

Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of being constructive?

Michael Nystrom's picture

The portal is now open (for the next hour)

for anyone willing to participate:


Just give this thread a bump if you're going to stop by. The Fight Club itself won't show up in the active forum topics.


I'm in the Greenwich Mean Faction.

I started hours ago, suckers!

jrd3820's picture

John Robb Dear

Can you explain this?
Is this true?

First tell me which time zone faction you are/were in.

No. I can't explain it.
I don't know if it's true.
I'd even be loath to travel with me on Thursdays though.

jrd3820's picture

I'm not part of a faction. I'm an individual.

Factions are divisive. I'm a uniter, not a divider.


Then it doesn't matter if you are in Mountain Standard or to the west where it is still Thursday. You are/were completely out of time, so to speak. I'd like to say I'm a uniter, but Greenwich mean is actually more of a reference, nothing active, nothing really. It's well on into Friday here, and I'm clearly still a bit insane.

Michael Nystrom's picture

Open for mortals

(I should have clarified)



1. Criminals united to consume everyone
2. Defenders united to avoid being victims or criminals
3. Survivors after the latest pogrom


F4 ?

Aren't we missing an F?

Michael Nystrom's picture

Use your imagination

I wouldn't Fucking know!

Nope, there it is.

That's what I was thinking - missing an F-bomb in there

but wondered if there might be another secret meaning.


Not really a good day to start messin' with the other 8

You can experiment with various settings, but

the First Four Fucking Function keys will be all that will matter tonight.

jrd3820's picture

Don't tell me who/what to mess with.

Oh, you weren't talking to me? I thought I heard you say chiclet so I came running over, maybe it was down there somewhere else. Ooooppppsss.

What should I call you I wonder?....I'll have to come up with a nickname for you I suppose. "Dear" is no good, it is boring, it must be better than that.

It's not boring. It's fine.

Just add the "John" to it.

jrd3820's picture

John Dear....

Have you built us our cabin in Montana yet?

I admit I didn't read much of the other stuff

on the other post about "fighting about fighting" so someone may have already dropped this:
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Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

Its on like Donkey Kong!

Its on like Donkey Kong!

C_T_CZ's picture


Am I the only one here confused by this post?

I admit I'm Polish, so being confused is typical SOP...

Wait- does being Polish mean I'm in a faction - The Polish Faction?

Is there a webcast or teleconference or something?

9pm what time zone?

After all, we all know it's always about 5:30 somewhere....

Proclaim LIBERTY throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof

I wrote a really long essay about all this stuff

And how it applies to government and society.


I am curious Michael if you ever read it. I spent about 5 paragraphs on factions...


And it's really

good, Sea.

This one got me thinking:

"One will never be sightless of the affinities one shares with someone else. Common language, common landscape, a common environment creates common values and perspectives. Identity not only a result of coalition, it can be the foundation of coalition and it is always a quality from which to draw strength."

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

jrd3820's picture

Good to know.

No, really that is great to know. I was one of the ones who misunderstood because when you were talking about ppl fighting I imagined a bunch of pointless name calling. This just sounds more like organized debate and that makes me feel less stressed. And I know, I don't have to be here Thursdays if the idea stressed me out, but it just saddened me to think of ppl running amok calling each other names whether I was here or not. This is debate club.