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The Genocide Escalates in Palestine. Israel Apologists in FULL Propaganda Mode.

It is sickening, I have posted a couple very innocuous articles on Facebook about the Israeli attack on the Palestinians and I have been viciously attacked within seconds by the Israeli apologists. Meanwhile, the social media pages are alight with the Israeli propaganda.

I come to the Daily Paul expecting to see some conversations going on about this civilian massacre and nothing... Is the Daily Paul being silenced as well?

9 killed while watching World Cup as Israeli missile hits Gaza beach café (VIDEO) http://rt.com/news/171908-gaza-killed-world-cup/

Gaza death toll over 80 as third day of Israel offensive continues http://rt.com/news/171684-gaza-death-toll-israel/

I have a question for the Daily Paulers; Should we remain silent as bombs rain down on the civilian population of Gaza?

Should we be silenced by the vicious attacks from the Israeli apologists?

is it not our duty to at the very least the truth about the genocide in Palestine?

UPDATE:

"Israeli army says the killing of 8 Gazan family members was in error" then ADVOCATES THE KILLING OF CIVILIANS>>> http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.604128

"A high-ranking IDF officer said on Tuesday that the defense establishment would continue to bomb the homes of senior Hamas operatives, adding that even though the IAF realizes that sometimes residents of a targeted building try to prevent the bombings by standing on the roof as human shields, “We will take down those houses.”

“If these people, like those yesterday, try to confront a plane in the air, and the pilot signals [that he plans to blow up the house] – get out, because that house will fall,” the officer, who was speaking on condition of anonymity, said."

The genocide apologists will use sophisticated tactics and arguments to defend the murderous actions taken by the state of Israel and their soldiers.

The argument we are making is simple;

Israel is committing a slow genocide of the Palestinian people to eventually be able to take over the land and have a bigger Israel. T

o accomplish this Israel and their soldiers have turned Palestine into a prison and have made Palestine a hellish place to survive in.

Once in a while, to push their GENOCIDE forward Israel bombs Palestinians and their infrastructure to make sure that they always live in fear and so they are never able to make life better for themselves. Keep the place as a subhuman prison with barely enough water or electricity for any one to feel any comfort.

Control the borders and the goods that enter Palestine to let in just enough food to keep them always busy trying to get food and hungry.

Despite of all of this many Palestinians manage to make their lives more or less normal to some level and to keep their human dignity. We know this because of the magnanimity many of them show in interviews. Most realize that the regular israeli is not their enemy, but that the psychopaths in power are.

The only good news in all of this is that many Israelis are becoming aware, and as upset as we are about this and they know that peace and justice is what is truly in the best interest of all Israelis.

Having said all of the above, pay attention as to how the GENOCIDE apologists will defend the killing of women and children and when that fails, how they start to call names and to muddy the waters in these threads.

WHEN THE APOLOGISTS FOR THIS PALESTINIAN GENOCIDE AND HOLOCAUST TRY TO MUDDY THE WATERS BY POSTING NASTY COMMENTS, PLEASE REMEMBER: WE ARE THE ONES WITH TRUTH ON OUR SIDE, WE WILL NOT BE STOPPED FROM SPEAKING THE TRUTH BY THEIR PSYOP COMMENTS.

No matter what they say, we must always remember the past holocausts and say... NEVER AGAIN shall we remain silent in the face of a state that sponsors a new Holocaust and GENOCIDE.

Please stand up for the truth, and call for peace and justice in Palestine, if we let the apologists get away with their propaganda, it will only be sooner that the world will be turned into a giant Palestine by the elite.

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But it's brain dead simple negating BS "anti-semitic" claims

Palestinians are semitic people; they're Arabs, and Arabs are semites. Jews are not the only semites. If you're defending Palestinians or other Arabs who are semites, how exactly are you an "anti-semite"? If the racist terrorist war criminals you're attacking are Jewish, and they're committing racist terrorist war criminal attacks on semitic Palestinians BECAUSE of their race, who is the real anti-semite? Brain dead simple.

This is from a Jewish-Israeli, talking about racist Jewish-Israelis' anti-semitism toward Arab Palestinians:

"Every part of our [Israeli] society is racist"

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/is-gideon-levy-the-most-hated-man-in-israel-or-just-the-most-heroic-2087909.html

I'm not afraid of being falsely labelled an anti-semite, because: a) I'm not racist or an anti-semite, and b) I'm defending and fighting for semitic people while also attacking real anti-semitic racists. Lookin' at you, Israel. Quit the bullying.

Resolution

Resolution introduced in House for "victims"

http://www.jta.org/2014/07/10/news-opinion/politics/congress...

I can't speak for anyone else

But I have been going hard on Twitter.

I suggest you start posting these:

Jewish-Israeli: "Every part of [Israeli] society is racist," "[Israel] isn't distinguishable from a terror organisation." Many other quotes:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/is-gideo...

Brilliantly made info-graphics:

Blame Israel, Cause Of The Problem:

http://thrivalroom.com/understand-israeli-palestinian-aparth...

After the World War II, 750,000 Palestinians were forced from...

...the lands they occupied at that time and had occupied for centuries.

This was known as the Palestinian diaspora 1948 in which 750,000 people were displaced or emigrated from their former territory. The diaspora was enlarged by the effects of the 1967 Arab-Israeli War.

Many Palestinians continue to live in refugee camps maintained by Middle Eastern nations, but others have resettled in the Middle East and other countries.

Of course, this kind of thing doesn't just go away after a generation or two the way those who caused it had hoped I'm sure.

And this explains why the fighting will never stop. Israel hates the people they displaced as though they were the cause of the issue.

It's like poking a dog in the eye with a stick until he bites and then blaming it on the dog and giving him a sound beating (or killing him in the case of Israel vs Palestinians).

You can argue with my assesment all day, but that is the fact of the unrest today and unless the Palestinians are somehow recognized and given at least some of their land back it will never stop.

In addition, immoral weapons-makers, bankers, military-industrial complex and politicians don't WANT it to end because they make too much money on it (I'm speaking mostly of the United States).

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

easy answers are an illusion

It's black, no it's white! It's white, no it's black! You're an idiot disinfo agent if you think it's white! No...no...no...you are a shill if you think it's black.

Any intelligent and honest person can see that it's completely white. No, only a fool would think that! The truth is black and anyone who says otherwise or even dare question that is an idiot.

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reminds me of an X-Files quote I heard the other day

"the best way to lie is to stick it between two truths."

You illustrate that point very well.

Cheers to liberty!

A true flower can not blossom without sunlight and a true man can not live without love.

I'll bet on your answer

If Israel were to lay down their weapons and say, we will fight no more.
What would happen? It is ridiculous to say everyone would live in peace.

And after your answer, mine would be, when the muslims have no one else to kill they will kill each other because fighting and killing is all they know (not the peaceful Muslims). Even their savior would lead them in fights. There is no heaven in that kind of attitude.

Notice how easy it is for you

Notice how easy it is for you to spout such anti Arab bigotry. it is not so easy to spout "anti-Semitic" bigotry.

You don't know what you're talking about.

Condemning Islam as the Satanic, violent rot that it is, is in no way the same as being anti-Arab. Surely you aren't THAT stupid. Arab and Muslim are not equivalent.

How is it bigotry for us to do the SAME THING you're doing - namely, condemning a large group of people for obscene amounts of violence caused by said group?

I don't condemn all Jews, but

I don't condemn all Jews, but I do condemn the majority of Israelis who continue to vote for leaders who enforce apartheid and build Jewish only settlements.

If I dared write about "Jews" or even Judaism, what you have written about Muslims and Islam, you and others would be the first to shriek "anti Semite!"

I'm not taking it lying down any more. I am not the one with hate or feelings of supremacy in my heart.

nice comment

No one really owns the land...whoever will use it better in terms of human freedom...that's who I'd choose. But it's not an easy situation to understand and I don't know enough about it to know what to do...

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Actually, all the land in Israel is owned by

the State of Israel. You may own your house but, not the land your house sits on.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

You are right

Israeli occupation of Palestine is sickening, as well as people's support of the horrors Israel and the U.S. have wrought on the Palestinian people. Unfortunately I don't talk about it much because it gets old arguing with people that have no knowledge of the situation or it's historical progression, and insist on verbally beating folks into submission for their own religious agenda.

But for what it's worth, yes it is disgusting.

I'm growing more and more ambivalent on this issue.

Honestly, I don't have a dog in this fight. I've been more sympathetic to the Palestinians in the past because of how overly forceful Israel's responses have been to them and also their overall treatment of them. However, my sense of political reality has me seeing any support for Palestine as being futile since they don't really conduct themselves much better.

Furthermore, contrary to many of my Dispensationalist friends, I don't see any prophetic significance to the current state of Israel, so the religious angle doesn't really help here either. The Jews running Israel are, at the very least, equally as hostile towards Christianity as the Muslims are, if not more so.

I say stay out of it. If they can't handle living next to each other, it's not our problem.

“My attitude toward progress has passed from antagonism to boredom. I have long ceased to argue with people who prefer Thursday to Wednesday because it is Thursday.” - G.K. Chesterton

"...equally hostile towards Christianity, if not more so."

Most of your comment makes sense. But honestly, I cannot believe the fallacies some of you will convince yourselves of, let alone publicly comment.

Israel's attitude/treatment of Christians/Christianity is far better than Islamic nations. Just ask any western Christian where they'd feel safer.

Examples:

- Sudan, an Islamic State, was about to brutally torture and execute a pregnant woman for merely refusing to deny her Christian faith!

- Muslim groups are literally kidnapping little girls to be sold as slaves.

- Islamic theocracies such as Iran have recently executed Christians merely for their faith.

- Radical Islamic groups around the mid-east and north Africa have brutally murdered, tortured, and even crucified Christians throughout the region, during their rampages.

Whereas - Israel actively preserves the Christian faith, it's Churches and holy sites, and promotes Christian tourism.

Whereas - Israel allows people of ALL religions, including Muslims, the same equal rights as every other citizen, in Israel.

Whereas - The Messianic Jewish movement in Israel is growing by leaps and bounds. My Baptist Christian born, Messianic Rabbi recently visited Israel, and came back head intact, praising the beauty, history, culture and diversity of the small country.

It is just NO COMPARISSON when contrasting Islamic nations' treatment of Christianity, versus Israel.

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

Although you've been a member for a long time,

it doesn't seem as though you were around when anyone who showed any understanding of the Palestinian side, and much more, actual compassion for the Palestinian suffering, opened a floodgate of non-stop, hate filled comments and attacks from one particular member. It got so bad, Michael said not to mention the word Israel anymore.

It never really stopped, until that member finally(!) got banned. Seems like the whole subject left a bad taste in people's mouths after all that drama.

As to the subject of your post, what is going on (and has been going on) over there is truly an abomination. But, with the ark door about to be opened to new members again, I'm not sure Michael would want that subject revisited here.

What say you, Michael? It's your call.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

She got banned for a disgusting gay-Nazi site link...

Not for arguing about Israel....

But, how you can blame the constant hate posts on the one person who contested them is beyond me. And it still hasn't stopped.

With escalating tensions in Israel as we speak, it is certainly a relevant topic RIGHT NOW. Which is not usually the case with the Israel-bashing. In this instance it is at least relevant to current events.

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

Very few were engaged in bashing Israel, Lawmanjed.

Let's be honest, here. You were never the receiving end of the ranting and delusional ravings. While I understand your defense of Israel, we aren't going to resolve anything going on over there. Things are not so black and white. There are way too many shades of grey in between.

Again, it's Nystrom's call.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

Nonna, we could start to discuss potential solutions....

But that requires both sides conceding their own faults.

Will Palestinian supporters ever recognize their own violence? Israel certainly knows it's being violent. They can't make a move without international outcry from the left. But another rockets gets fired into an Israeli city, or a couple Israeli teenagers get kidnapped and tortured to death by radical Palestinians, and it is "no biggie".

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

Who said their deaths were no

Who said their deaths were no biggie? We really don't know who killed those Israeli teens, but we do know that the IDF has killed 6 unarmed Palestinian children so far this year. Why is that no biggie to you? I think you may be sub-consciously a Jewish supremacist.

YEAH... RIGHT....

Whatever you say NONNA! I've never been attacked for my support of the Israeli people? Yes, I have, many times.

The true thing you said is that it is not black & white, but shades of grey. NOBODY on either side of the violence over there is innocent. They are all full of blood-lust and revenge. BOTH sides.

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

Excuse me but, I thought you were referring

to the banned one, not yourself. You have been attacked for your support of the government of Israel, NOT for your support of the Israeli people. Until you understand that, you won't understand where your critics are coming from.

And why are you getting snarky with me? Don't think you're going to sucker punch me into a fight on this subject. My position is already known to you. Please don't turn it into something it isn't.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

I don't think some of those critics understand the difference...

...between the Israeli people, and the Israeli government. My problem has not been with you, who I have usually been able to engage in reasonably objective discussion with. But there are some who blame "Da jooz", as you should know.

And, as I think you know, I have often been critical of the Israeli government myself.

This time my criticism is that I think they are again going about it the wrong way. Instead of dropping bombs on neighborhoods and innocent people, further escalating tensions, they should just roll in with their army, tanks, troops, and take it back already. This would at least allow for more precise targeting of enemy combatants, and less indiscriminate bombing. Plus, it would more effectively prevent future attacks.

One state solution. Equal rights, freedom of religion for all.
If you commit "terrorism" (i.e.- murder) you get charged with murder, fair trail, then executed if found guilty.

That is my proposition. That is the idea for many on the Israeli side, and I'm sure for some on the Palestinian side.
Many on both sides want a two-state solution. I don't believe that can ever work.

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
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Lawman, Israelis have

Lawman, Israelis have repeatedly voted for leaders who have only increased Israel's illegal occupation and Jewish only colonization over the years. So, I don't get why Israelis are seen as innocent victims. The Iranian people have far less power. So Israeli democracy actually makes it more responsible for its leaders' crimes.

Israel apologists?

No one wants to see violence, ESPECIALLY innocent people get killed...
So why don't we hear complaints from certain DPers when the Palestinians fire rockets into Tel Aviv provoking Israel?!!
Why no complaints about the "human shield" tactics the Palestinians use around their missile sites, while Israel rushes it's people into bomb shelters?!

Who fired rockets into a populated city FIRST?

Do some of you people honestly expect them to just sit back and take it?!!!

There is NEVER any outrage or complaints from the usual suspects on here when it's Palestine who attacks Israel...ONLY when Israel retaliates does the bitching start!

The kind of double-standard, biased logic you use is the same logic used when people call Israel "apartheid", when it is the Palestinian Muslims who refuse to live next to Jews in Israel, and who demand a separate state!
The same ridiculous hypocritical thinking that complains about Israel, then demands Israel send "aid" to Palestine.

Some of you are just BIASED!

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

Israel started bombing Gaza

Israel started bombing Gaza BEFORE the recent volley of Rockets from Hamas. Netanyahu immediately blamed Hamas for the deaths of the three teens, and decided to commit collective punishment, which is a war crime. That doesn't mean I like Hamas, but really, why dont Palestinians have the right to resist illegal occupation and Jewish only colonization? I'm not saying I want them to use violence, but no one paus attention to their misery when they choose non-violence .

For the same

reason there is little outrage when a bank gets robbed that is part of a banking cartel which plunders entire nations and gets bailed out.

If a bunch of Mexicans illegally immigrated to California, took the joint over by force, seceded from the union, were provided arms including nuclear weapons from other nations, and treated native born Californians like second class humans would there be any outrage if a couple missiles were lobbed into San Diego?

Does history look upon American Indians with contempt and outrage who fought against colonials that illegally immigrated to America? Does history look upon negro martyrs with contempt and outrage who rose up against masters in slave uprisings? Do you honestly think history will look upon the plight of Palestinian people any differently than any other unjustly occupied or conquered people? Do you honestly think any aggressor that has tanks, jets, or nukes will be more favorably reviewed by history than an occupied retaliating defender with shoulder fired rockets or suicide bombers?

I do not expect Israel to sit back and take anything. Israelis are a nation of invading illegal alien occupiers. I expect them to act as such. I expect them to behave like any good invader and occupier from Rome to the United States. Some Palestinians are still defending against invasions of their homeland. I expect both sides to keep on killing each other until Palestinians become the next American Indian on special Palestinian reservations or Palestinians pull off an American Revolution by defeating the Israeli state.

If you were commenting about law you would say the only source of just law is god. I find it ironic you can call one side hypocritical when clearly a primary source of the entire modern regional conflict is illegal immigration. Not that I subscribe to illegal immigration but all of the statists around here certainly do. Point being it is funny how the source of the conflict has no bearing on your opinion of Israel/Palestine but it means everything when it comes to your opinion on something like law.

You're forgetting the fact

You're forgetting the fact that it's not "the Palestinians" lobbing missiles into Israel, it's Hamas, yet Israel is killing women and children in a show of collective punishment. This has been their tactic from day one. You're forgetting that Gaza is effectively a massive concentration camp subjected to embargo, restriction of movement, and constant watch from Israeli towers and walls manned by snipers, etc. I don't know why breath has to be wasted on folks like you but I'm sick of all this making of Israel the victims.

Yes, Hamas is fucking stupid for lobbing missiles. Yes, Netanyahu is a murderer and a fascist. The problem is that everyone pretends that you have to pick a side here and that those are the only two options.

How convenient...

It's not "Palestinians" involved in the attacks, but it is Israelis involved on the other side right? PUH-LEASE...

I will re-phrase:
Why no complaints from certain DPers when HAMAS fires rockets into Israel, supported by their Palestinian population, provoking more violence?

The "Palestinian" people support Hamas' agenda. It's radical Islam.
They refuse to live next to non-Muslims in peace, let alone join Israel and the millions of Arab Muslim Israeli citizens.
Palestinians literally teach their children to hate Israelis/Jews in text books. They have Mickey Mouse tell their children to "martyr" themselves by strapping bombs to themselves and going into an Israeli synagogue or church, or restaurant and blowing everyone away...
These people wean their kids on Jew-hate.

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?