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Why you should move to Shanghai to teach English

I am sorry if this is against the rules. I read through them and didnt see anything prohibiting a post like this so if it is against the rules dont banish me, just let me know and i wont do it again.

As some of you already know, I am a New Jersey resident living abroad in Shanghai. Currently my boss is looking for some native English speakers to help teach kindergarten English.

1st let me tell you the #1 reason u should move to Shanghai.

1. The girls. Not only are they 10x hotter than the girls in the US, they all desperately want foreign boys as their boyfriend. If you are Caucasian you will have hot girls staring at you and lusting over you everywhere you go. Getting a girlfriend is as easy as saying hi to one of them.

If you have no social life in America, come to Shanghai and you won't have that problem anymore. You will meet tons of people who want to be your friend or gf without lifting a finger and almost everyone speaks English well enough that you dont have to invest the time to learn Chinese before you come. I still dont know much mandarin and ive been here 2 years.

The other reasons why you should move...

2. The US economy sucks and you cant get a decent job anywhere. You can work part time and make way more than enough money to not only live but travel around China and do just about anything because everything here is so cheap! $2.50 for a full meal at mcdonalds!

3. Exploring new places youve never been and learning a new culture you never experienced.

4. It looks great on your resume to say you worked in Shanghai.

5. This job is so easy you can do it with your eyes closed and have the money you need to pay off all your college debt quickly while still having a ton of fun.

6. They will pay for the airfare.

7. No experience required.

so now if your interested go on your smartphone and get the app "wechat" and add me "wizzletoff". If wechat dont work for you get "qq international" and add me "2912046771". You can talk freely to me through the app using text or voice and ill tell you more about the job.

I pinky promise that my next post will have a more liberty-related topic. =)

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C'mon, June...

I upvoted your post because well, it imparts some
important bits accumulated of wisdom that you've
gained through your experience.

OTOH, give these guys a break! They're young and want to
get laid and not have to put up with a bunch of PC crap and
entitlement- fixated American women... doesn't mean they
can't be good/effective teachers, too.

I'd venture to say that most of the women doing this end up
finding it somewhat liberating to be out of the PC-dominated
academic environments that most of them are coming from.

I'd hate to think you were the type who would try to deprive
Charisma Man of his super powers :-)


I get it... but that's just

I get it... but that's just it.

Let me explain something to my young American liberty loving friends, you don't need to fly all the way to China and work for some sketchy Chinaman and his ripoff English school just to get laid.

You need to choose your route carefully, and make sure it benefits you the most. Because at the end of the day, someday you're going to hit 30 then 35, maybe 40, and the last thing you want is your resume filled with dead-end jobs and "easy" experiences.

There are tons of places in the world to teach English, but probably no better than Japan. Probably the worst place is Thailand, because Bangkok will rob you of your soul, sobriety, and ruin your life.

Tread carefully, very few make it out of that industry untainted. I made it, but some of my other friends and colleagues did not.

Besides, the Asian way is "Work hard, play hard." Not work easy, and play hard... when in Rome!

Re - Charisma man was out the year I got out. To me it was a warning sign. LOL!

I beg to differ...

I'm in my 50's and regret I didn't take advantage of the "easy experiences" in my younger years and I could of had many because I was considered nice-looking. I was one of those, "do the right thing, be a good moral man to find a good wife" guy. It didn't happen and being in my 50's, let's just say, the male body changes particularly the supply of testosterone.

I feel like I left the meat in the freezer too long and it's going bad fast. I should have fired-up the grill more often and enjoyed it but was saving it for a special meal that never happened.

Go for it young guys, all you can while you can, no regrets.

Brother, 50's are not the

Brother, 50's are not the 80's.

Testosterone isn't the problem, it's the lack of testosterone activities that kills it... and you!

I'm in my mid 40's and I wake up every morning with wood. Why? Because I work out 4 - 5Xs a week. I'm still killing it in my 40's. I also eat for nutrition not for pleasure.

Get yourself into shape, then buy a ticket to Thailand to test your new found fountain of youth.

Men shouldn't be dying in the 40's, 50's, or 60's inside a house on a sofa, it's not a way to live or die.

I was as well when I was in my 40's...

but when I hit 50, my joints ached from all the lifting I did in my 20's, 30's and 40's. The body wears down. You'll see. I thought the same as you when I was in my 40's.

Your joints ache because you

Your joints ache because you stopped. Your body is incredible, it can do great things. Of course squatting 500lbs at your age is not intelligent, but exercising smartly is.

I blew out my back on a leg press machine in my late 30's. Still to this day it bothers me but only when I stop exercising. To be honest, I don't think I'll ever be able to quit exercising. If I do I'll be in very rough shape.

If Al Bundy (Ed O'Neill) can start BJJ in his 50's, and get a blackbelt in his 60's, then I believe age truly is just a number.


I've been contemplating this for over a year...

but have 3 dogs I rescued and I can't abandon them, plus a 78-year old mom that needs me a while longer.

If I were "free" of those obligations, I would do it in a heartbeat.

do you

use Kik? I'm interested. Money like that sounds appealing. Never been to China and I'd like to check out S.E. Asia.

How many hours a day is it?

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul

Sorry, i have never heard of

Sorry, i have never heard of kik before.

I DL'd

wechat. can't figure out how to send a message but added u to contacts.

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul


But what's in it for a 59 year-old woman?

Also, aren't the women you describe the same personality types who show up in true-crime murder for hire TV shows?

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

If you're like most of us here

and are basically interested in freeing yourself, this is a darn good option.

Having lived and worked abroad for much of my career...I've come to know:

- You won't have to put up with a teacher's union.
- A healthy chunk of your income is not taxed, as long as you remain outside the US for 330+ days in a tax year. Easily done, and when school is on break, travel all over China, Korea, Vietnam, Hong Kong, Japan and other wonderful places you would never have thought to go
- Ride bullet trains at close to 400 km/h, cheaply, to Beijing and Hong Kong. Think you're gonna do that in the US any time soon?
- Visit Tianamen Square, and stand where the tank-stopping dude stood (just do it discretely)
- You'll have generally attentive students who aren't loaded up with Ritalin or other such nonsense drugs
- Chinese kids are taught to respect their elders. Remember that golden rule from your childhood? Think it applies in the US anymore?
- The parents of the kids won't make their problem your problem, in terms of their child's behavior
- Sure, you could teach at a private school in the US and perhaps get similar benefits, but you'll have to have the teaching credentials
- You'll learn about China and life generally outside the US in a way that most Americans cannot fathom, and cannot appreciate.
- You will meet interesting working expats from all over the world with little effort, and further broaden your international exposure
- The veil over your eyes will be lifted in terms of the US media from a unique perspective. You'll soon see how biased CNN is, and how Fox News is a puritanical, neocon, Israel-first joke; of course, you'll view English-speaking Chinese news outlets objectively as well...
- You will have almost no encounter with the police unless you do something totally heinous
- Chinese people will go out of their way to be nice to you and want to meet and speak to you.

I could totally go on....but that ought to get you there.

Dont know for sure about China

but here in Japan there are people your age teaching -
some of them have teaching experience/credentials, others

Some employers basically only want female teachers - they
are scarcer overall than male foreigners so that can enhance
your bargaining position.

I'm sure you can get your share of hot girls, too - if that happens
to be your thing.. ;-)

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I did this in Japan, in 1987

For pretty much all the same reasons. I didn't know about the girls back then, but I soon learned ;)

I dropped out of college after my freshman year, right after taking summer intensive Japanese.

I didn't let a company pay my airfare, because then they do, in a sense, own you. I flew over freelance and found my job the way all the freelancers did at the time: In the classifieds section of the Monday Japan Times.

On the other hand, those who got the full ride, with the furnished, rent-paid, air conditioned pad got paid more than me. I had more freedom and more spare time.

Regarding #5:

5. This job is so easy you can do it with your eyes closed.

I would just advise that anyone doing this take the job seriously. The students are paying money for a service. Don't abuse that trust. It lessens the experience for everyone, no less for yourself.

But yes, it can be a lot of fun.

I'll take you at your word that you're not here scamming people since you've been here this long, but to others reading, the standard caveat applies:

Buyer beware!

Thanks for the post, and the memories.

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.

How's the money?




Damn, really?

Somebody better jump on this soon. If I wasn't already doing my expat thing I'd probably be all over it.

Go for it, young dudes

and/or dudettes.

It probably seems an overwhelming prospect if you've never
been out of the Homeland - but once you've done it it will
seem routine.

Teaching kids is great (well, it's never boring, anyway) it's
also a good stealth means of learning the language faster.
I've been in the same town here in Japan long enough that
I sometimes run into former kindergarten students drinking
at the bar - needless to say I don't recognize them, but they
remember me...

Japan is somewhat similar WRT the women - the more so if
you're in a big city - but I imagine Shanghai is everything
the OP says in that respect. Taiwan, too - from what I hear.

And as a DP'er you can be an ambassador of good will and the
real American Way. Actually, if you are American and not an arrogant
asshole people will be surprised and impressed...