Is anyone here not familiar with who Miko Peled is and the work he is doing?
What reason does Miko Peled have to lie about the Palestinians and/or the Israeli government?
Personally, I would have to think someone who is proud to be the grandson and the son of Israeli heros, who has known high ranking officials all of his life, and who has witnessed first hand what is going on in Israel and the what the Palestinians are subjected to, is someone who knows what he is talking about. What reason could he have to lie about it?
What do you think?
“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
How about you, Lawmanjed. You have a lot to say on the subject. Is Peled a liar?
maybe in a minute
PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?
Until recently, you haven't given a direct answer to anything anyone asked. Not the best way to handle the situation.
Just because something doesn't fit into your mindset, doesn't make it a "loaded" question.
Ok, I watched the Russia Today (RT) Russian state news piece.
First off, Miko does not once mention the rocket attacks on Israel from Palestinian militants in Gaza, that initiated the recent conflict.
He does mention the 3 Israeli teenagers being tortured and killed, but excuses it as 'what do you expect when you bomb their people'. He conveniently fails to mention that it was Hamas fired rockets into civilian areas in Israel with the intent of killing as many people and causing as much damage as possible, that are the reasons for the bombing in Gaza by IDF. And the 3 teens killed were kidnapped before the Israeli retaliatory strikes!
Miko has plenty of sympathy and compassion for the Palestinian people, and rightfully so, but seriously seems to be lacking in his sympathy for the Israeli people.
Israeli citizens have been living in fear, forced to stay in bunkers and bomb shelters as the rockets continue to rain down. Contrast this with Palestinian civilians allowing themselves and their children to be used as human shields. Gee, maybe that's why there is such a discrepancy in the death toll on either side?
Miko says that Israeli politicians are gaining "political points" in Israel. Maybe that's true. If you're a citizen stuck in a bomb shelter for a week because rockets keep falling on your neighborhood, you might support your leadership doing something to stop it. But the international, internal, and regional pressure they face, makes it a necessary move, not one to score political brownie points.
Miko Peled grew up the privileged son of an Israeli military General. He witnessed ruthless decisions made at the highest levels of military, and government. But he did not grow up living with the same fears and threats as the ordinary Israeli citizen. He was privileged, protected. It is not so uncommon for some of these privileged types to sort of rebel against their parents or what they see as their controllers. We have the Jane Fonda types here, who go off and side with Communism against the 'evil western imperialism', etc...
But that's not what I think Miko Peled is...
I think it's very possible he's a psy-op.
Think about it. General's son. High ranked in the Israeli military and then he just up and decides to play an activist role for the other side?
We both know there are actual radical Jewish-supremacist Zionist factions in Israel, as well as globalist MIC profiteers. While I don't share the opinion that these groups are the majority in Israel, nor that they run it completely, I have always acknowledged their presence.
These are the some factions in Israel that do want an excuse for conflict, the most radical Zionists wanting to destroy the Palestinian Muslims, whom they see as corrupted to their very soul, and who will never accept peace. The globalists just want to start WW3 for both profit, and to forge more World Government.
By attempting to delegitimize Israel, instead of legitimizing peace and a one state solution, Miko and others are emboldening Hamas and Israel's other enemies. Israel's enemies see a political weakness that isn't really there, and so they attack. This is the excuse the radical factions in Israeli government need to retaliate and commence bombing.
Eventually, things will escalate (as we in the US keep having our tax money sent to fund both sides) and we will get WW3, and the excuse for the globalist elite's World Government. All the while the Islamists and the most extremist of the Zionists, are playing the useful idiot.
So when are folks like yourself going to wake up and start supporting a peaceful one-state solution, instead of blaming Israel and giving blind support to the Palestinians?
A one-state solution under Islamic Palestinian control would never work for the Jews, the Christians, or the mostly secular majority. It has to be an Israeli one-state solution.
Freedom of Religion for all, as is the case in Israel now, not so with Palestine.
Equal rights under the law for all.
That's what needs to happen.
That' should be the goal the "international community" should be crying out for.
The most honest thing you could have said instead is that you know very little about Miko Peled and the work he is doing, and that you know even less about Matti Peled. If you really want those things you keep saying you want, you'd do well to educate yourself about them and their work.
With all mental boxing you did in that comment above, you knocked your own self out and probably destroyed any shred of credibility you have left here.
As long as you continue to view the world from the narrow tunnel your Zionist masters have put your mind in, with all the prejudices that go with it, there is no way anyone here can have a rational discussion with you. And no, we don't hate Israel but, neither to we hate Palestinians. We don't even have a horse in the race. Try to remember what the "P" now stands for in "Daily Paul" and you might get a clue.
Better yet maybe your radical muslims masters or radical muslim or islam masters whatever? Are you with the side of the islam?
There is no middle street. middle ways. Only one way. The up or down or left or right way. Either The GOD way or the satan way. As I see it, is not hating at all. What I see is the media spin is way out. The Great Deception in full force.
No one has given a direct answer to any of the questions I asked!
I've answered and responded to everything.
You did a bait and switch, for the most part.
Sorry your long, edited response got lost.
It's after 1 a.m. on the East Coast. I'm tired and will be signing off soon.
but asking me my "source" for "all" my information is bit of loaded question..
to this as part of an *edit to the above comment... But since you responded it got 403'd...
Something they've NEVER had before ISRAEL gave it to them.
10s of thousands of JEWS were forcefully relocated from the Gaza strip by Israeli IDF to accommodate the Palestinian radical Muslims who refused to live next to Jews and Christians.
What more do "Palestinians" want?
Israel GAVE them their own state.
Something "Palestinian" Muslims have NEVER had before in history! Palestine was ALWAYS under foreign rule.
The VERY NAME 'Palestine' itself came from the Roman occupation of Israel, in Jesus' time, and was a reference to the Philistines, the ancient enemy of the Jewish people, as an insult to the Jews.
There has NEVER been a nation of Palestine under Palestinian control until ISRAEL gave it to the Muslims.
Palestine STILL cannot produce enough to feed their people.
They STILL cannot get industry up and running to provide jobs for their people.
They are completely reliant of FOREIGN AID!
Much of which comes from ISRAEL!!!
And HOW DO "Palestinians" repay Israel?!
BLAME ISRAEL and MURDER their children!!!!!
WHY ON EARTH would any of you support Palestine Muslims over Israel?!
Every Muslim country is dirty hell hole. They constantly kill and oppress their own people (when they aren't killing and oppressing other people), constantly oppress their women and children, and have nothing but Totalitarian Theocratic Dictatorships as governments!!!
Freedom of RELIGION is NOT ALLOWED in Palestine!
There is FREEDOM of RELIGION in ISRAEL!!!!!!
Are some of you STUPID, or just TOTAL shills!!
Why is a great LIBERTY site like this so one-sided against Israel on this issue? I don't believe it is representative of the actual demographics within the liberty movement.
were being forced out of Gaza, told me that she was sure that that was the key to peace between Israel and the Muslims of Gaza. I told her that it would not be. She was surprised that I thought that.
what you have to say about this Lawmanjed? http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/leaked-report-israel-acknowle...
Looks, like Putin put an end to this scheme, and the reason the Zionist controlled Congress and media has attempted to make Putin out as the 'newest' Hitler. I heard Dr Paul on his headline commentary 'Ron Paul's America', where he stated, 'I agree with former Reagan cabinet member, Paul Craig Roberts. Everybody knows Washington is behind the Ukraine crisis, except for the manipulated American people.'
Here's the people you support. http://www.infowars.com/gaza-mass-murder-theater/
Real reports, not like the phony propaganda from the Zionist controlled US media.
Calling Israel apartheid is complete bullshit.
Are Palestine and Israel one single nation?
Palestinian Muslims demand separation: THEY GOT IT!
Palestinian Muslims want their own state: ISRAEL GAVE IT TO THEM!
It is an international border fence!
Yet, 'Palestinians' keep starting shit, like the current mess you see happening!
Firing rockets, sending suicide bombers, kidnapping innocent civilians...
So Israel put up a fence!!!
On top of that, Palestine is so inept and incapable of self-reliance as a nation, that they STILL rely on ISRAEL's good will and generosity to FEED THEIR CHILDREN!
"Palestinian" adults are too busy worried about killing infidels that they completely disregard building up their own nation, and making it prosperous and peaceful. Religion of PEACE? They don't know the meaning of the term!
It is just unbelievable how you liberal morons can keep calling it "apartheid".
Remember what the Muslim Gazans did to the state-of-the-art greenhouses the Israelis left to them when they exited Gaza? Those things were worth a fortune and could have made the Muslims a lot of money (they were employed at the greenhouses so they knew how to run them) but they deliberately trashed them. The brilliance of that move is so blinding that I have to put on sunglasses just to think about it.
Are you an Evangelical "born again" Christian? Yes or No?
they think straight.
So I'll take that excessively-defensive reply to mean 'Yes'. That answers all I have to know about your support of terrorist war criminal Jewish-Israelis in Israel. Evangelical "born again" Christians don't think straight when the subject is Israel. Bye-bye.
How dare they Palestinians resist the government-sanctioned taking of property,kidnapping, and murder by Israeli Settlers?
How dare they resist being thrown into Concentration Camps?
How dare they resist being bombed and starved?
How dare they not allow all their people, including children, to be punished for the actions of a few?
What is going on in Gaza is the continuation of an Imperialist Policy with western support because the people to be relocated are brown and (mostly) Muslim.
To quote Tom Woods, "If there was an earthquake over there we would all be tears and pity; but when they are being burned alive, they are human garbage. ".
So you're just gonna make stuff up, sensationalize, and spin things out of context to suit your position...
There are NO concentration camps!!!! LOL!
You must mean Gaza?! The place the Palestinians DEMANDED and Israeli conceded to them?
You do realize 10s of thousands of JEWS were forcefully relocated by Israeli IDF to accommodate the Palestinian radical Muslims who refused to live next to Jews and Christians. What more do "Palestinians" want. Israel GAVE them their own state. Something "Palestinian" Muslims have NEVER had before in history. They were ALWAYS under foreign rule. The very name 'Palestine' came from the Roman occupation of Israel, in Jesus' time, and was a reference to the Philistines, the ancient enemy of the Jewish people, as an insult to the Jews. There has NEVER been a sovereign state of Palestine until ISRAEL gave it to the Muslims.
Being bombed and starved?! ISRAEL is who FEEDS THEM!!! They don't produce SHIT!
In case you are freaking BLIND, DEAF, or DUMB you would know that it is the PALESTINIAN Muslims who fired FIRST! It was a WEEK before Israeli responded, and only AFTER warning Hamas to stop, or else!
"Imperialist policy". "Western Support". You must be one of those Putin lovers I'm guessing. The US and the "west" screws Israel as bad as everyone else.
NO ONE is calling human beings GARBAGE! No one but the Muslims who call for the destruction of all Jews and non-Muslims. They
Try to be honest. How are Jewish only colonies not just one manifestation of Israeli apartheid? And care to explain the apartheid marriage and immigration laws?
Korean neighborhoods, Vietnamese neighborhoods, Chinatowns, and rich people-only gated communities. That MUST mean that the whites and rich people have used the state as a cat's paw to establish apartheid. Or it could mean that people tend to congregate with others who are like them.
So you're full of it.
If Israeli Jews or Christians or Muslims want to live in little private Church communities or Kibbutzim that is their prerogative.
Lawman, you are avoiding my questions as usual. And when did Israel recognize Palestine as a state?
But since the Palestinian Authority cannot distinguish itself from Hamas, nor rid the country of the criminally terrorist element, they should not be looked at by anyone as a legitimate government.
What question have I not answered? I must have missed it responding to all the different usual HIFer "questions" and accusations.
I always wonder why it takes a half-dozen or so of you guys to argue with me. No I know why.
You should go live there, Jed. You'd fit right in with the other Jewish supremacists. ...except they'd despise you for being a Christian, non-Jew and American.
They just love Zio-Christians like you, Jed.
"The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that." — Alan Greenspan
Because you can't refute the valid points I've made.
Oh, and for your information, I am Messianic Jewish. 100% Jew.
I thought everyone of the HIFers knew that already.
Here's a little vid to show what the Palestinians teach their children with my American tax dollars:
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