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Interview with Miko Peled: If Israel Doesn't Like Rockets, Cancel the Apartheid Regime



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Israeli kids taught to kill and hate - "I picture a dead Arab..

...and that makes me happy". Saturday at the museum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR1UHA6syvE

Then you are a Jewish

Then you are a Jewish Supremacist and not a zio-Christian. I stand corrected.

"The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that." — Alan Greenspan

Oh Geeze Louise, that is the utter frozen

limit.

No I'm not, but..

...you are lying, slandering ignoramus who ad hominem and personally attacks people who make points you can't refute with points of your own.

And you apparently have no problem slinging insults, and accusations to people you don't even know, about issues you can't effectively, objectively argue about.

TROLL.

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Israel Treats Members Of The Injured ISIS

Israelis gives ISIS hospital care in Tel Aviv.

A curse on Israel for aiding and abetting a criminal enterprise run by our CIA...

There will never be peace as long as Israel plays the harlot..

That's sarcasm, right?

?

You guys will spin anything...

First of all, evidence of claim?

Secondly, If they didn't treat them , you guys would spin it as "Racist Israel refuses to treat Muslims claiming they are ISIS terrorists, how sick".

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Thanks, Nonna

Just finished watching! For those that are not familiar with Miko Peled:

"Miko Peled is a peace activist who dares to say in public what others still choose to deny. Born in Jerusalem in 1961 into a well known Zionist family, his grandfather, Dr. Avraham Katsnelson was a Zionist leader and signer of the Israeli Declaration of Independence. His Father, Matti Peled, was a young officer in the war of 1948 and a general in the war of 1967 when Israel conquered the West Bank, Gaza, Golan Heights and Sinai.
Miko's unlikely opinions reflect his father's legacy. General Peled was a war hero turned peacemaker."

The Generals Son (video- 28 mins.)

If Wars Can Be Started by Lies, They Can Be Stopped By Truth.

In another interview:

"AARON MATÉ: That was Rachel Fraenkel, the mother of Naftali, who was one of the Israeli teens who was murdered in the West Bank last month. We are joined still in Jerusalem by Miko Peled. Miko Peled, the mother here of a murdered settler emerging as a voice of peace, your comments on that?

MIKO PELED: Yeah, I don’t think she’s emerging as a voice of peace at all. I think if she wanted to be recognized as a voice of peace, she would condemn, completely condemn, all Israeli violence towards the Palestinians. Ever since these three boys went missing, the Israeli military has gone completely mad. The Israeli soldiers have been marching through Palestinian towns and villages like Roman legions, destroying everything in their path, destroying homes, beating children, arresting, torturing. Countless have been killed, of innocent civilians have been killed. This has been complete madness. And if these parents were really interested in calming things down, they would tell Netanyahu to pull back his troops, to stop bombing Gaza, to relieve the people of Gaza of this brutal and inexcusable siege. People living 45 minutes from me, and they don’t have—they can’t have water fit for drinking or the most basic medicines, not to mention any way to deal with the horrific attacks that they’re subjected to right now. So, if anybody is really interested in calming things down, this is where they need to point the finger. This is who they need to be talking to."

Full Transcript here: http://www.democracynow.org/2014/7/8/absolutely_unjustifiabl...

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

Palestinians will not

Palestinians will not convince me that their cause is just by killing Israelis.
Israelis will not convince me that their cause is just by killing Palestinians.

"Nonviolence means avoiding not only external physical violence but also internal violence of spirit. You not only refuse to shoot a man, but you refuse to hate him." — Martin Luther King, Jr.

"The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that." — Alan Greenspan

Agreed...

But what can one side do when the initiation of force is brought upon them?

Israel has been living peacefully alongside Palestine for last few years, with the occasional incident on either side.

But, nearly two weeks ago rockets started pouring into Israel from Gaza. For nearly a week the firing continued without a response from the IDF. 3 Israeli teenagers were kidnapped and brutally tortured to death by Hamas or other radical Jihadists.

Then Israel warned they going to retaliate. The rocket fire continued. So Israel defended itself from attack. They utterly out-gun the opposition, but that doesn't put them in the wrong.

The rocket fire from Gaza continues, even as Palestinian civilians are used as human shields against Israeli artillery.

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israel

In your words,utterly outguns the opposition...so why would opposition persist,if they all know they would be defeated?
How does gaza get rockets to shoot into israel?
Care to prove they lived peacefully along side each other for a few years?
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If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

Why? Part of the strategy...

After provoking Israel into having to defend itself, Hamas Palestinians use civilians as human shields around their missile sites, specifically to drum up civilian casualty numbers for the press so they can get liberal bleeding hearts to boo-hoo Israel and put more international pressure on Israel to give up even more land. When Israel gives up the land (or not), repeat (until int'l pressure builds up to the point they are forced to, presumably). That is their strategy, and reason for the rocket attacks.

Think not? These people literally teach their little children to commit suicide bombings. They don't think rationally. They are taught they will be rewarded in Heaven by Allah. Their lives suck, they have no problem going to the afterlife, they long for it.

The Palestinians can end the Israeli retaliatory bombing by simply ending their own rocket offensive.

Gaza gets the rockets from Hama, Hezbollah, and the assistance of Muslim governments' smuggling operations. Duh. Remember when Israel raided that boat in that Gaza port. They were smuggling in people and weapons.

Literally anyone who claims to know anything about the Israel-Palestine conflict should know these things.

Care to prove they lived peacefully. Relatively for that region. There had not been a significant military offensive or defensive operation for nearly two years. Every single day Palestinians cross over into Israel to visit and do business in Jerusalem, and elsewhere.
What more do you want to prove there was relative peace between Israel and Palestine for the last year and a half plus?

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Sorry, lawmanjed, but I'm not

Sorry, lawmanjed, but I'm not buying it. I know you believe the garbage you spew but I know better. Please don't even bother trying to justify what Israel is doing to the Palestinians. It just makes you look like a heartless fool.

"The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that." — Alan Greenspan

"heartless fool", are you serious?

I absolutely do not agree with Israel bombing and killing innocent civilians.
I hate it.

Problem is the Palestinians use their civilians as human shields around their missile sites. Specifically to drum up civilian casualty numbers for the press so they can get liberal bleeding hearts to boo-hoo Israel and put more international pressure on Israel to give up even more land. Then they just keep doing the same thing. That is their strategy, and reason for the rocket attacks.

Think not? These people literally teach their little children to commit suicide bombings. They don't think rationally. They are taught they will be rewarded in Heaven by Allah. Their lives suck, they have no problem going to the afterlife, they long for it.

The Palestinians can end the Israeli retaliatory bombing by simply ending their own rocket offensive.

The fact you don't realize these things makes you look like the fool.

In my opinion Israeli IDF forces should just roll into Gaza and annex back to Israel every inch of land they take, and keep going until all rocket fire into Israel has ceased.
Make everyone Israeli citizens. Full rights. Freedom of Religion. You commit murder (terrorism) and you are tried and executed or life in prison like any murderer.
One state solution.

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Really?

Let me copy/paste your comment

Submitted by Lawmanjed on Sat, 07/12/2014 - 22:27. Permalink

I absolutely do not agree with Israel bombing and killing innocent civilians.
I hate it.

In my opinion Israeli IDF forces should just roll into Gaza and annex back to Israel every inch of land they take, and keep going until all rocket fire into Israel has ceased.
Make everyone Israeli citizens...Let me see,you hate the bombing of innocent civilians? and on the same hand,israel should bomb them all into submission?
BTW,it was not israels land,that land was stolen,and it was stole per the bible

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

Yes really...

There is a big difference between dropping bombs which kill indiscriminately from a distance, and then just leaving the enemy to rebuild and fight another day, versus rolling in with ground troops and more effectively targeting enemy combatants, and not allowing the enemy combatants to return to the area where they launched the rockets from.

Get it deacon? I mean I know you can be a bit slow in your communication skills, but come on. I never said Israel should bomb them into submission. Those are your words.

I support a one state solution, instead of the current unsustainable madness.

BTW, why don't you stop nit-picking and attacking the messenger, me, and try comprehending all the points I've made that you've yet to refute.

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Point by point?

1) I am not slow(as much as you'd like believe) You know,because it would make your job easier...(in your limited view)
2),I asked you very pointed questions, and in fact,very limited,like what I copied and pasted from you ^^^^^ up there.
I know you support a 1 state solution,and you support it with a loss of a nation,and a bigger creation of/for israel(you siding with the state itself),instead of being for/with the people.
3) most who read your words about the IDF,know exactly what your are sanctioning,and condoning.
4) I can freely nitpick,the creator made me this way (if there is a creator,then he did create me) But,you weren't the messenger (NONNA :) was
So, here is suggestion for you, You can change the way to try to talk down to me ( you know,because you are so up there,so out of site,and the CHOSEN,that all should kiss your ass (while smiling).Or,nothing that comes out of your yap will be heard,at this point,I could care less either way.Happy posting day
the weirdest part of our exchanges is, you are like the" monkey on your back" scenario. practice,my man practice
Jus,say'n
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If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

You speak out of both sides

You speak out of both sides of your mouth. I usually ignore you because you are not worth my time. You are insincere and dishonest. You can lie to yourself all you want. I don't have to put up with it.

"The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that." — Alan Greenspan

projection...

look in the mirror Mr. Ad Hominem

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Where are you getting your information?

You aren't heartless but, you do seem to take the side of agenda driven, heartless, Zionists. What is your credible source of information and have you taken the time to read and/or listen to the videos posted here, with an open mind?

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

What specific fact are you questioning?

You and I have discussed this topic many times, you know where I am coming from.

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All of your facts and "facts". What's the source

of your information. Somebody or something(s) put those ideas in your head.

We do agree that a two state solution is not the answer. Miko Peled agrees with us on that, as well, and his recent interview is the subject of this thread.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

I get information from all over the place, including right here.

If you're wondering where my world-view for the support of Zionism, meaning the Jewish people resurrecting the nation of Israel and living in their G-d given homeland, comes from, the source is the Bible.

I am Messianic Jewish. I am not some wicked Jewish Supremacist, radical Zionist expansionist. I believe in the Word of G-d and the Blessing of the Remnant of the Jewish people.

I know there are factions of wicked Zionist supremacists in Israel. And there are just as bad if not worse Islamic supremacists all over the mid-east and north Africa. I don't support either of those ideologies.

But I do support the existence of Israel. The goal is a one state solution. Freedom of Religion for all. Peace and equal rights for all. 1.6 Million Israeli-Muslims have already figured this out. Most of Israel has already figured this out.The radicals on both sides haven't.

Understand, Jews are the vast minority in the region. Islam has proven it does not tolerate other ethnicities/religions, in most countries under Islamic control. Israel is the Biblically given homeland to the Jews, forever, it is written. It is also the only region in the mid-east Jews can practically exist, not under Islamic Law.

Most of my view is developed in my mind, as with anyone else who thinks for themselves. As a Messianic Jew, I am already going against the grain of the vast majority of the world.
But I get my everyday information from all over the place...

The Bible
The DailyPaul
DailyBell
Drudge
Infowars
Beforeitsnews
youtube vids
WND
RonPaul.com
Blaze
Fox
CNN
RT
aol.com/huffpost
many different books, tv shows, encyclopedias etc...
talking with people, strangers, neighbors, people I know...
I live and breathe...

And every bit of relevant information I take with a grain of salt, and compare and contrast and mull around, and ponder.

Where do you get your "information" and "facts" from Nonna?

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The Hassidic Jews would not agree with your

position about the Jewish people resurrecting nation of Israel. They believe that is for the Messiah to do. Not Ben Gurien, et al.

I would whole heartedly suggest you at least take the time to read "The General's Son" and watch the videos LittleWing and I have posted here and let us know what reason you think Miko Peled has to lie.

There is a lot of propaganda out there and a lot of it is directed towards good people, like you. I know you can think for yourself but, very often, what we think is thought of for us and we don't even realize it. Please broaden your sources and don't leave your brains outside of the Church doors when you go in.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

Not true...

And I am not Hassidic...

Israel "put on new leaves" in 1948.

In many ways though it is for the Messiah to do. As Messianic who reads the New Testament, the Jews had to return to Israel and a bunch of other things need to happen still for this the Messiah to return.

The questions about Peled I answered in the 403'd comment but I'll try to repost it at the top, again.

Your last paragraph, don't forget to take your own advice... "Just in case".

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Seriously? THAT's your answer?

A down vote?

Way to go!

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

Ummm

Call me crazy, but this is Granger.

A brother from another mother!

Zio's stick together.

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

What? Lol...Sorry you guys have been living in a bubble...

...where Granger is the only pro-Israel, let alone the only non-anti-Israel person you communicate with..

I am lawmanjed. But you all know me already, so don't go acting like you don't know about my positions.

Granger was more pro-Israel than I am. Too much. She was sometimes irrational, on other issues as well, and we had our spats. But you guys are so anti-Israel you refuse to see things objectively.

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Not anti-Israel.

Anti-Zionism. The difference makes a difference.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox