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So what is Israel supposed to do?

First, a disclaimer: right now, Israel sucks. I'll be the first to admit that. I am not, by any stretch of the imagination, pro-Israel, and am a HUGE advocate of cutting all funding and military aid to the country.

However, the sheer fanaticism and hatred of Israel that I keep seeing is somewhat baffling; objectively, they're no worse than their neighbors, and the US is also funding several of said neighbors. I don't get the single-minded hate.

Anyway, that's actually beside the point. So you don't want Israel chucking rockets into Palestinian neighborhoods. Okay, fine, I can get behind that. I hate collateral damage no matter who's doing it (though Hamas should probably stop using neighborhoods as human shields, too), and rockets are a heck of a recipe for innocent casualties.

Here's the question: what, exactly, are the Israelis supposed to do in response to the attacks? We've agreed that counter-rockets are bad on account of collateral damage. What then?

Should they launch outright ground attacks in an attempt to clear out Hamas? Their special forces are certainly good enough to do so and keep civilian casualties to a minimum; however, I suspect the international (and anti-Israel) outcry would hit ridiculous levels.

Obviously the Israelis can't just take the rockets and suicide bombs without responding at all.

So the final option, and the one I suspect the anti-Israel fanatics want, is total capitulation to Palestine's demands.

From an objective, completely neutral standpoint, this is stupid beyond all reason. Palestinians have no more claim to the land than Israelis do - the entire freaking Middle East as we know it was basically created by Great Britain, including (GASP!) Palestine. It's not like the Israelis have some kind of ban on Arabs and Muslims, either.

So what, exactly, is Israel supposed to do in response to the rockets? The military options will be condemned, and the peaceful options are mind-numbingly stupid.



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Some people in Israel are awake and trying to get others to

wake up, too.

"We don't have enough activists here who can counter the Israeli apartheid regime," he said. "That's why we need support from the outside world."

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―Emmet Fox

That's Israel's business

The spirit of non-interventionalism is that other nations can and ought to manage their own affairs without our interference. I am completely against any further US involvement (especially financing both sides -_- ), but I'll recognize Israel's right to its' own response to the attacks. They don't need our permission to defend themselves, nor do they need to apologize to us if they do something we don't like. Israel is in a better position than we are to manage their relations. I'll assume that, whatever they decide, it was the best choice they could make under the circumstances, and I'll continue to wish for the best for that region (that somehow peace can be made).

"Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." -- Thomas Paine

Well said.

None of our business to talk about the action of Self defense. Look at the affair of other countries. What position are they? Meanwhile criminals exist in every other country.

You do realize don't you that

You do realize don't you that Hamas did not start this latest "battle" don't you? Israel had killed 6 Palestinians in response to the death of the three Israeli teens. Yet they were not responsible for those deaths. So blame Netan Yahoo.

They should apologize and recognize Palestine.

They should issue an official state apology for bombing their neighbor - Palestine, in retaliation for 3 deaths they offered no evidence on.

They should NOT bomb people over three deaths.

Are we bombing Mexico if three people are killed on our side of the border?

How about Canada? If a Canadian citizen, or even a group of them kills three Americans, do we bomb Canada in response? I mean, WHAT should we DO about that?

What should Mexico or Canada DO about the U.S. bombing them over such an issue?

Your question isn't just a bad quesiton, it is absurd.

Israel is a created state, assuming territory where people were already living, and which refuses to recognize the right of those people to their own government, or even their own territory.

Israel continuously demolishes the HOMES of people who "live in the way" of Israeli territorial plans.

If a neighboring city bulldozed YOUR home because it wanted to annex your land so it could locate it's own residents there, WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

You'll find the answer to your absurd quesiton by asking a question that is higher up the food chain, so to speak, and then you'll realize why you no longer need to even ask your question, becuase by answering the more basic questions, the other problems go away.

DJP333's picture

An Eye for an Eye

will make the whole world blind.

"It’s not pessimistic, brother, because this is the blues. We are blues people. The blues aren’t pessimistic. We’re prisoners of hope but we tell the truth and the truth is dark. That’s different." ~CW

Kill Palestinians without American money

Or, quit killing Palestinians without American money.

Convert all those Palestinian

Convert all those Palestinian Arabs to Jews so there will not be fighting. Israel should take over the whole Middle East.

You forgot your sarcasm end tag on that one.

I hope.

egapele's picture

Wow, hopefully it is at least minumum wage

you make to come here with that ignorance.

Ugh.

Who cares, I guess, the benefits are good I bet.

I downvoted...

You're not serious?

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

Allow the Palestinians to return to their homeland, . . .

and shoot themselves.

btw, this would also leave neocons babbling and wondering around aimlessly (having lost their reason for existence).

egapele's picture

You have a point, albeit a sick one

People shooting themselves out of despair from this war don't seem to make headlines, namely our own soldiers.

Abandon National Socialism

Millions end up dead to prove it can't fail. Then it fails.

Whatever group has tried it failed, german, eurasian, semites, arabs,...

Talk with people, trade with them earning mutual profits.

Free includes debt-free!

I find it ironic that you are

I find it ironic that you are calling jews nazi's. lol

I don't. I do find it ironic that they ARE national socialists.

And that they are employing similar ethnic cleansing tactics save the "camps."

Now THAT would send the neocons babling aimlessly. (well, they do that now, but then even they might admit it)

Israel is a State.

However, several Israeli citizens and scholars have derided that State for the tendency of embracing national socialism.

The SS rule of retribution was 10 lives for each life taken.

An eye for an eye became 10 eyes for an eye. Is the Law abandoned for Israel's neighbors? If not ironic, it is at least sad.

Free includes debt-free!

Israel is the aggressor.

Israel is a bunch of nazi supremacists bent on slaughtering a nation of semitic people; namely Palestine. Do you all forget the Ron Paul "Imagine" video? Imagine if israel were slaughtering Americans, yet we didn't have an Air Force, Army, Marines, or Navy? What would you do to Israeli soldiers?

Hamas was created by Israel, and they keep the false flags going to gain public sympathy. Wake up, for God's sake, man!

When did common sense become a super power?

Racism:

rac·ism [rey-siz-uhm]
noun

1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.

3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

When did common sense become a super power?

Race?

The inhabitants of the Middle East were Semites, brown skinned people. The Arabs and the Jews, including Jesus, were and are the same race.

straw man arguments aside...

Brown isn't a race. They are all from the Human race, sure. But Jews think of themselves a superior race. The white Jews in Israel are Ashkenazic Jews who were from eastern europe, germany, and converted to judaism in the 7th century. The reason i said Semitic, is because Jews are so quick to hide behind the "anti-semite" label, but in reality they are the ones that are anti-Semitic. Get it now?

When did common sense become a super power?

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How about move?

They could purchase an unused piece of land somewhere far away from the middle east and live there instead of living in the middle of a bunch of enemies. Maybe in Brazil or on a nice tropical island.

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The same could be said for

The same could be said for the Arabs. Why can't they move and let Israel live in peace?

maybe because what is now

maybe because what is now Israel was the home for a majority of Palestinians, and the occupied territories were homes for the rest. THEY, not the Ashkenazi Jews, are the indigenous people of the land.

Argentina... Brazil...

That's where the other Nazi's went, right?

When did common sense become a super power?

Why should I care ?

Convince me to give a damn.

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This!

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“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

Right.

Can you imagine the last bastion of an apartheid state continuing hundreds of years into the future? With the genie of the Internet out of the bottle, you just can't keep people that stupid so as to keep this nonsense going on, one people beating down another forever.
I remember in grade school being shown the good Israelis making the deserts bloom whilst the evil Arabs plotted against them for no reason but their own racism. I believed it until I became more curious about the world and accidentally educated myself. I've never assumed a teacher or talking media head to be right since. All I had to see was the MSM attacking RP to make me curious about him as well.

This is the only solution

This is the solution that will bring peace. Eventually this is the solution that will rise to the top, but not until it is forced upon the Israeli's. They will not voluntarily end their 60 year campaign of genocide.

I think the people of Israel are more interested in death and destruction because at this time they hold the power. They hold the military advantage, political advantage, and economic advantage... and while they have held this advantage for 60 years they have shown their true colors. As long as they are in a position of great strength they will use that strength to kill and murder every last Palestinian. I don't believe they are interested in Peace while they are winning at War.