Libertarian communes, new tribes, socialism as a lifestyle, sharing and picnics.Submitted by Smudge Pot on Thu, 07/17/2014 - 14:44
Once again the DP Chat brings up an interesting topic. More of you people should jump on the chat and just watch it scroll, some really intriguing and amusing things happen.
ANYWAYS the subject came up about if there was such a thing as a libertarian commune, what would that look like?
OK first of all, I'm one of the few of us that has lived in commune. Twice. Next, I have been consulted on a number of such projects and man oh man have I seen them fail.
In fact there's been at least a half dozen attempts to do this. There's been minimal success. The Galt's Gulch Chile thing is going. I'll stay off that topic as it's an active project and a microscope is neither wanted nor needed. Besides it's the only bright spot.
ALL OTHER ATTEMPTS HAVE ENDED IN TOTAL CATACLYSMIC DISASTER, UTTER TRAIN WRECKS.
The output of these has been universally charactarized by:
1. An initial outpouring of joy and wealth.
2. Mega massive arguments about who owns what.
3. Class action lawsuits, old friends becoming enemies and a major dose of bitterness and regret.
This is the fault line: we can't do anything without private property and ownership and when we combine to do a project or initiative, everybody says "unless I have an ownership stake in the resultant product, why should I bother contributing?"
This seems to be a perfectly legitimate question but successful communes just blow it off. Hippies, for example, don't care a whit about who OWNS anything, it's presumed that WE ALL OWN IT AND WE SHARE IT. And I gotta say, the hippies have it over all of us on this one. I can give you a dozen examples of hippy communes that have lasted beyond decades, they are actually GENERATIONAL at this point. Earth People's Park in VT comes to mind as does The Farm (RIP Steven Gaskins) and Oak Ridge Commune and a newer one called Dancing Rabbit in MO and they are part capitalist. They really got it going on, I'm a total admirer.
Most of these successful hippy communes have a founding donor, a person that simply gives the people land and they assert no ownership or control of it whatsoever so thing happen, in our parlance in kind of an anarchistic state where those who lead lead and those who follow follow.
All of our arguments about socialism and conformity and submission to group-think are instantly dismissable due to the fact that these are VOLUNARY ASSOCIATIONS and anybody can leave at any time.
Now why is this important to us? Why am I pushing this on you?
Smart people. By now you know that Uncle Smudge always has an agenda.
Here's what I saw in Tampa.
Paulfest 2012, Tampa Florida we had a camp ground and while I was busy running around trying to secure the largest political action area I have ever had to worry about in my semi professional life, I saw the people coming together and sharing and it was one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen in my life. These attempts were so faultering and tentative like is it OK for libertarians to share? To just walk up to a camp fire and say hey guys, mind if we joing in? Or we're making breakfast, are you hungry?
There was this line for one of the few showers we had available but this one guy as I am blasting by on a golf cart emerges and the guy looks so radient that I could just smell the soap on him from 20 yards and he raises his arms in triumph and shouts FREE SHOWERS FOR FREE PEOPLE! and everybody gave him a rousing cheer and I just saw it. Especially in you young people. You are ready for a LIBERTY LIFESTYLE. And you want to LIVE TOGETHER and you want to FEED AND CARE FOR ONE ANOTHER and you want to HAVE FUN DOING IT.
Elders, this is what our youth are geard for and WE MIGHT BE STANDING IN THEIR WAY.
As a former tribal person (last of my line, the tribe is no more), this all just comes naturally to me. When I do large event security I'm functioning as a warrior protecting my tribe and it's a great honor and blessed responsibility, it's literally SACRED to me because you are Wichasha Wakan, Oyate Washte Wakan, the Holy Men, the Holy And Good People. That at least was my station (retired warrior) but others had their stations in feeding people and others provided just endless pouring streams of booze and a few others turned us onto some smoke that had us all dancing on clouds....right in the middle of the PD and security footprint of like every law enforcement agency in Florida and like 52 flavors of feds because they were mobilizing to protect the RNC. That was un-phreaking-believable. There were VERY NEARLY some major conflicts and some mega diplomacy happened...
Anyways I just saw it in our youth. And this who-owns-whatism is an obstacle to our happy enjoyment of life. Just in the same way that our young people consider gayness to be UTTERLY IRRELEVANT IN DAILY LIFE, just in the same way that DOING DRUGS AND SMOKING POT ARE UTTER, TOTAL NON ISSUES, just in the same way that some of us listen to heavy metal or whatever, TOTAL NON-ISSUES.
And who owns what, our youth understand to not be mooching, it's GIVING. And doesn't it make sense that as we have these kids totally prepared for TEOTWAWKI that they should have a sense of coming together, relying on each other and knowing there's gonna be somebody there to love them tomorrow?
As preppers we say to get your preps together first and then "push out the perimiter" by networking and making trust relationships with other preppers?
So when is that actually gonna happen people? And when are we, as elders, gonna rededicate to our youth? Maybe as soon as you accept them as OUR YOUTH. And that's called taking responsibility.
One thing I have learned is that responsibility is like a commodity and it's just like plucking an apple from a tree: you just TAKE IT. You SELF-AUTHORIZE and say "that is mine".
To rock this tangent, taking responsibility is a magic thing: you get endless access to this commodity and you get it for free, all you have to do is take it. And if you do it well PEOPLE LITERALLY GIVE YOU POWER and you can use this power to do or get just about anything you want. They will feed you, they will put a roof over your head, they will drive you places and pick you up from airports IF YOU ARE A GOOD THING IN THEIR LIFE.
Oh and if people get the idea, if you actually show them you love them?
PEOPLE WILL DO PRACTICALLY ANYTHING FOR YOU.
And this I would call the true definition of wealth. And POWER.
Do you want power?
Well I just told you how to get some.
In this movement we have all talent, skill and capability.
We are the motivated people. We are healers, engineers, scholars, we are every trade and every talent. And another thing I'll tell you for nothing, have you noticed that many of the most successful and energetic scholars and influence makers have spouses that support their mission?
Just like anybody else, we're stronger together.
And it's often been noted that LIBERTARIAN ISN'T A RECIPE FOR LOVE OR HAPPINESS. Well it just so happens that living together in harmony is.
I'm gonna leave this one open ended and NOT tell you guys what to do. I'd like to entertain questions, I can tell you about the communes I have lived in and how they were successful, hear whatever on this topic. And it would be neat to hear from you young people about how you might see or not see what I'm talking about.