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Ukraine Jet Theory - Please Spread

The best theory I've heard is the rebels thought this was a military plane and shot it down.

2 questions though:
Why was it flying in a warzone?
Why did they make this mistake?

Airliners squawk codes identifying themselves. So here's the theory:

Malaysian jet lost over the ocean was a test of equipment to remotely control a civilian jetliner. They depressurized the cabin, then piloted it into the ocean. It was a test, someone at Malaysia airlines is co-opted into the scheme. Maybe even some of the designers of the system were on board, not knowing MA was the place it would be implemented.

Meanwhile, another system is installed in another MA jet. They depressurize, steer to the war zone, then give off codes which the rebels would react to (knowing when and where the rebels would get this system, as the NSA surely must). Thus, the rebels actually end up shooting the plane, and it's blamed on Russia. But really, it's a set-up.



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Ukraine Releases Clip


http://youtu.be/BbyZYgSXdyw
Moments ago Ukraine released what may be just that missing "YouTube" link, when it unveiled a 2:23 minute video supposedly proving that "militants of "Bes" group shot down with a Russian anti-aircraft missile a Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 passenger jet heading from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur."
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-17/ukraine-releases-yo...
Tampered time stamp:
First, the Russian version of the clip which was released in parallel, and shown below, there is a major discrepancy in the time stamp, with the English-dubbed version showing the conversation between Major and Grek taking place at 5:11 pm and 5:32 pm, while the original one has it at 4:33 pm, 5:14 pm and 5:32 pm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwtxBA1m9x8
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-17/ukraine-releases-yo...

BUSTED!

BUSTED! Ukraine Caught Trying to 'Frame Russia' for Shooting Down Malaysia Flight MH17!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28MrASx-RiM

So not being familiar with the factions in the Ukraine conflict.

Who are these people talking, anti Russian Ukrainians or pro Russian militants? Who does this point to?

Thx!

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This is the video prior to the impact, it does not match the

Audio stating that the plane broke up and fell in pieces out of the sky...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XOnCckiYlk

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Yep, it could be.

Nice to have the internet to spread ideas around.

If this was 20 years ago, all we'd have is ABC, NBC & CBS crying about those dangerous Russians.

And the blind public instantly supporting everything

Without so much as questioning the reality. 20 years ago there would not have been a video showing a ground explosion with no smoke in the air, going directly against physics and every other plane ever shot down by a missile. Who is to say what happened, but it is nice to have video and be able to know what didn't happen...

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My conspiracy theory is as follows:

First Malaysian jet is high jacked and landed by whomever to be used as a weapon at a later date, but something went wrong in the coordination effort to make it look as a normal crash, such as eyewitnesses who saw the plane at certain times. That plane actually landed and the passengers were converted to shark bait. All the attention on the supposed crash was too over the top to use the plane for any type of false flag, so the plane today was hijacked, the passengers were left on the plane and the plane was crashed via remote takeover of the controls.

The video floating around the internet and main stream that shows the impact shows that there were no smoke trails to the ground, no missile trail of smoke in the sky. In other words the sky shows nothing but clouds and blue sky and then the explosion on the ground, but if an airliner at 33K feet was hit by a missile it would have broke into fiery pieces and smoke trails from the sky to the ground would have been visible, yet only the explosion on impact is seen per the video circling.

In my conspiracy, the first missing Malaysian jet was to be used to make it look as if Russia shot down a civilian plane and the global media and eyewitness accounts of the planes flight path screwed things up, so they had no choice but remote crash a jet with passengers in place of the plane they lost the media war hiding.

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If they hate us for our freedom, they must LOVE us now....

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I tend to side with something along this vein

so they had no choice but remote crash a jet with passengers in place of the plane they lost the media war hiding.

My opinion based on the info

My opinion based on the info I know of is that it was shot down by a buk but that it was fired by the European backed current Ukrainian government, likely the plane didn't id itself and the Ukrainians screwed up royally and now are trying to blame the rebels who don't even have these types of systems anywhere near the area that this was fired from. But you know who does have plenty of these buk systems in that area is the current western backed Ukrainian government.

They are trying to confuse Americans by pointing out that it was likely a Russian made buk that shot it down, implying the russian backed side did the shooting. Unfortunately for the western backed Ukrainian government they took over tons of these systems when they took over the government.

While I'm a fan of well-constructed and developed conspiracy

theories, you are just throwing darts at a dartboard my friend. Not even circumstantial evidence to back it up.

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What about the other Plane

that went missing a month or two ago? Do you think maybe that was a failed mission? Something is really fishy about Malaysia.

Who had the ability to...

shoot down the plane?

Who benefits?

Why is a commercial airliner flying over a war zone where aircraft are being shot down nearly every week?

In other words, you are a

In other words, you are a pro-Russian apologist even though you have never lived in Russia and have no real experience.

Your sole desire is to crap on America.

You support people that like to burn books, and kill people that have strong opinions. God forbid they have a sense of humor.

You are a hypoctite at best.

Armchair keypad QB's run amuck.

Communism sucks. Anarchy sucks.

America rules.

If you don't like it, leave. Go away, and join the rest of the zombies.

Get out of my house. I'm sick and tired of people who bitch and complain about America being the bad guy, and habitually treat Jews as the scapegoat.

You are a cheap sheep, nothing more, and so much less.

Baaaahhh.

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

I hate to do it but I cant resist finding out whats

Going on here....

To whom is this post directed? I have read every post here at least twice and there is not even one mention of American involvement. The only attack against anyone with a strong opinion is this one so far as I can tell. While I will agree that before we lost our nation to globalist bankers, greedy bureaucrats, and blind partisans the concept of the United States was a grand one, and while you tell others to take a hike as you hate Communism, that is where this little experiment is headed if people do not take action and vote the traitors out of office to make our "Republic" whole again.
Lastly can you point out the post here attacking Jews? Who posted it, or was it removed? Did I miss something?

Always remember:
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." ~ Samuel Adams
If they hate us for our freedom, they must LOVE us now....

Stay IRATE, remain TIRELESS, an

This is one of those cases

This is one of those cases where you wish the other person is being sarcastic, but you have a hunch that they're not.

wow

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