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How many people on the Daily Paul are in South America now, or want to move there?

I'd like to see more libertarian communities outside the USSA.

Anyone here interested in starting one up?

Which country do you think provides the best opportunity to get one going?

I'm so depressed about this place I either want to run for the hills, or start over down South. Anyone here have the same thoughts?



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Here in St. Lucia...

I rent a large, fully furnished, 3 bedroom, 2 bathroom house in a lovely neighborhood with balconies overlooking the Caribbean for the equivalent of US$ 480/month.

You have Galt's Gulch Chile

You have Galt's Gulch Chile started by Jeff Berwick...

http://galtsgulchchile.com/

A few other communities I can think of aren't necessarily libertarian, but could make great places to live are...

www.pacificlots.com

www.miradorsanjose.com

Here's another in Ecuador...

http://www.riojuntas.com/

Belize...

http://biospharms.com/

Here's a good thread on Reddit where a guy took a lot of time answering people's questions about his move to Ecuador...

http://www.reddit.com/r/IWantOut/comments/18ucnu/i_got_outus...

Here's some interesting blogs...

Quitting my job and moving to Costa Rica...

http://www.happierthanabillionaire.com/

With Global Unrest and Militarized Police, Where Do You Go To Escape?...

http://www.escapefromamerica.com/2011/11/global-unrest-and-m...

Retiring in Peurto Cayo...

http://retiringinecuador.blogspot.com/2013/07/puerto-cayo-ec...

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

I can't think of one...

...country that has liberal gun laws and a libertarian friendly government. I say we should hold our ground, get activist and try to save this country from ruinous a-holes that want to live in China but are to damn lazy to move!

Well, how about the Congo? And you can live real well there too.

Well, how about the Congo? And you can live real well there too -- IF you have capital to begin with, and IF you can stomach being surrounded by teeth-gnashing poverty and impossible corruption.

If you like being surrounded by well-manicured lawns and smooth tarmac, AND endless fees, licenses, taxes, forms, paperwork, and bureaucracy, stay where you are.

Now, in the Congo, there are miles and miles of legal statutes prohibiting everything on earth, but enforcement is almost nonexistent except where there is business competition, and in those cases, affordable bribes take care of all potential problems. That, and an equally affordable armed security attachment.

But that's life in the Third World.

"Cowards & idiots can come along for the ride but they gotta sit in the back seat!"

"If you like being surrounded

"If you like being surrounded by well-manicured lawns and smooth tarmac, AND endless fees, licenses, taxes, forms, paperwork, and bureaucracy, stay where you are."

We'll see how well manicured lawns are when the US goes full third world.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

Alex Jones says we are

Alex Jones says we are already Third World. Property Rights are already starting to deteriorate.

The current policies and

The current policies and government actions is definitely 3rd world. We'll be full 3rd world in a few years (or sooner) when the currency collapses.

Let's hope the 4 star general is wrong...

http://sgtreport.com/2014/07/the-guerrilla-economist-vs-inte...

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

So are we like Mexico now?

So are we like Mexico now? Mexico is considered a developing country, more well off than a 3rd World African Nation, like Angola or Zimbabwe, or a Haiti in this hemisphere.

I lived in a third world country.

Iran was a great place for "rich" Americans in the early 70s. My father worked at the copper mine at Sarchezma, a "family status" job. I spent about a year and a half there as a boy, right before the Shaw fell and the Iatola Khomeini(not sure of the spelling) took over, and westernized Iran burned to the ground.

The trouble with third world countries is that they're unstable. I hope the United States does not (continue to) go down that slope. Call me a hopeless romantic but I still have hope that the pendulum will finally swing the other way.

Yes

Does Alabama count?

I started to get excited there for a minute

then I realized y'all aren't moving to South Carolina. :( "A.D.D. misread".

Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

I am!

I am!

Not sure where you're from Magwan

but get ready for severe culture shock. You'll be fine - just answer everything with the buttery "Well bless their heart" and you'll fit right in. :)

Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

A lady from Texas posted a mile-long argument for Chile

A lady from Texas posted a mile-long argument for Chile here last year. It got a lot of traffic. Should be easy to find.

--yeah, here it is:

http://www.dailypaul.com/295334/we-left-the-us-we-chose-chile

My last post there asked her how she felt since the Communists won the elections and the students were on a victorious rampage. I have to go see if she answered.

"Cowards & idiots can come along for the ride but they gotta sit in the back seat!"

been considering it...

lots of research to be done. if anyone has a head start on this it would be of great help.

me lady and I have thoughts of trying to import quality items from south america because we have a few contact in texas with retail stores that might be interested. plus could always start an online store

proverbs 20:15
There is gold, and an abundance of jewels;
But the lips of knowledge are a more precious thing.

Es me fascina

My start has been a bit faultering but I've sent people down for medical treatment and at this point have examined more than a few business plans. I'm sort of peripherally involved in the effort to bring bitcoin down there.

So a brief rundown: DON'T EVEN SET FOOT IN CENTRAL AMERICA AT THIS POINT. One exception: Costa Rica which has become an ecological paradise. How long this remains so is dubious. I can see any one of the central gang armies walking in and taking them on a Tuesday.

Panama isn't the financial haven it once was. Uruguay is an up and coming financial haven but it's way overpriced now due to capitol flight from Argentina.

Argentina is about to default on it's debt. Everything is about to be on sale and USD will buy you anything. The problem is converting your profit out of ARG Pesos.

Chile next door is doing pretty wonderfully but again it's over priced for many of us looking for a real deal. Call Chile the Southern Free Market Capitol.

Paraguay is kind of a question mark to me but one to keep an eye on.

BOLIVIA AND PERU really look to be up-and-comers to me. Ditto Colombia in spite of the fact that an insurgent army still controls about 25% of the nation.

Venezuela: don't even bother.

Brazil: I don't even pretend to understand Brazil, Portuguese or Brazilians themselves. En que kirsch ew fasu?

Most of those who think so actually don't and most people who think sew actually rip.

Funny you ask....

My Woman and I have been seriously thinking about Uruguay.
The government there seems to be more in touch with the people and reality down there.

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On my way to Ecuador...

Hopefully relatively soon now.

The Philosophy Of Liberty -
http://www.thephilosophyofliberty.com/

Keep us posted.

Keep us posted.

I hope you write us and let us know what you find out

Have you been there yet?

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Im still in the states..

but looking to broaden my horizons. Simon Black and his group have bought up tons of land in Chile. Im stuck here until my kid is outta school. Once out of school, im going to take my savings and get the hell outta dodge!!

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul

Me too

I'm trying to trade land here for a farm down there. I know a guy with an alfalfa farm in Brazil that thinks this place is better/safer. Maybe it is for him because he is rich, owns the only airplane and hanger in his town and he feels like he is a target so he spends a lot of time away from home.

I've got some construction/excavators, etc. equipment that I'll trade for farmland. If you come across a potential deal like that let me know

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown