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# Subjectivism vs. Objectivism, Benoit vs. Helfeld, Debate

Subjectivism vs. Objectivism, Benoit vs. Helfeld, Debate

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### NO, ITS AN AXIOM.

NO, ITS AN AXIOM.

Jan Helfeld

### ok, fine

Now what? Where does this very obvious axiom, which no one would dispute, lead you?

"All our words are but crumbs that fall down from the feast of the mind." - Khalil Gibran
"The Perfect Man has no self; the Holy Man has no merit; the Sage has no fame." - Chuang Tzu

### OK but there is a "Univeral class"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe_(mathematics)

### The fellow supporting subjectivism started off with...

a contradiction to Relativity. When measuring the same physical phenomena from different frames of reference, the same results must be arrived at.

Last I checked muons make it to the ground.

### Subjectivism vs. Objectivism

Subjectivism vs. Objectivism, Benoit vs. Helfeld, Debate: Subjectivism - reality exists simply because of agreement; there are no absolutes; two contradictory conclusions can both be true and 2+2 = 4 is not always true. Objectivism : reality is what it is independent of what anybody thinks or agrees ; there are absolutes; two contradictory conclusions cannot both be true, and 2+2 = 4 is always true.

Jan Helfeld