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Rand Paul Talks to Blacks and Democrats Flip Out

By : lauren victoria burke
Posted On 27 Jul 2014

Blacks Shouldn’t Be Fooled by Rand Paul, an editorial from Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake announced the day Republican Sen. Rand Paul spoke to the National Urban League in Cincinnati. And the room wasn’t even full.

On July 8, the Democratic National Committee’s chief flak Mo Elleithee led a conference call with black reporters after Sen. Paul reportedly said, “I don’t think there’s anybody in Congress doing more for minority rights than I am right now.”

While that statement was a bit much, Sen. Paul has been doing more than dropping names of Black civil rights legends. Paul has been pushing legislation on justice reform that many Democrats who get over 80% of the black vote aren’t even bothering to co-sponsor, much less author.


While Democrats fret about Sen. Paul them may want to check their own record given that support in black and brown communities is connected to issues disproportionately affecting them. Currently many Senate Democrats who are members of the Senate Judiciary Committee at a time when Attorney General Eric Holder is pushing justice reform, are not supporting leading bills on justice reform, including:

Justice Safety Valve Act (S.619) – Introduced 3/20/13. Gives judges more sentencing power over mandatory minimums. Chair Pat Leahy is only co-sponsor. No other Senate Judiciary Democrats are sponsors yet Sen. Rand Paul is.
REDEEM Act (S.2567) – Introduced July 8, has no co-sponsors.
Smarter Sentencing Act (S.1410) — Introduced 7/31/13. Even though 28 Senators including Tea Party Republicans Mike Lee, Rand Paul and Ron Johnson are co-sponsors, Democrats Schumer, Landrieu, Warner, Feinstein aren’t.


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Interesting that my comment

Interesting that my comment was wiped off her site. All I said was that the Democrats aren't entitled to speak for blacks, government is not the cure but the disease, and Dems are afraid blacks will want to use the Bill of Rights and Constitution some day.

And guess what... DELETE!

Liberal websites are the worst. They really do hate different opinions, or ideas that might rock the boat.

Conservative and Libertarian sites aren't afraid of Liberal opinions... we beg for a fight!

Was it ever approved?

I'm surprised that comment was deleted considering the article was not pro-Democrat at all, maybe it just needs to be approved first.

The sad fact is that as long

The sad fact is that as long as the govt. checks are flowing, the majority will remain Democrats.

I applaud Rand's efforts. Perhaps he can shift loose a few thinkers that might make a difference.

"The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that." — Alan Greenspan

the benefits need to outweigh the cons

People don't want to give up gov't money and get nothing in return. But they might give up welfare checks in exchange for less of their kids in jail, fairer drug laws, more private sector employment opportunities for those with records. Those things mean that their communities can actually advance out of poverty and out of prisons, and that means more than just money. Rand might be offering something more valuable, the trend just needs to continue.

We want freedom and liberty candidates -- to minorities that first needs to mean dealing with prisons and unfair sentencing and criminal records. Without that freedom, issues of social or financial freedoms seem like a pipe dream.

You underestimate most African American

voters. They are some of the greatest victims of the State, and all it would take is to show them that, and they would quit voting Democratic reflexively. They don't support Democrats to "keep the checks flowing" That is quite insulting (As if most Republicans wanted to stop the checks from flowing!). They do it because most Republican politicians are openly hostile to their legitimate rights.

I am not a big Rand fan, but I'll give him credit for this: He has the courage to speak to many of the underrepresented victims of the State (now if he could just embrace immigrants rights too).

If this continues, it won't only be neocons aiming their wrath at him. Many left wing Democrats will begin to worry that maybe Hillary isn't a shoo-in after all, and perhaps his most vociferous opposition will be in the general election.

This is actually a great point

most think the RNC is for WASPs. The problem is, neither party is really for anyone except for the 'puppet masters'.

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You are entitled to your

You are entitled to your opinion. I was stating a fact having nothing in particular to do with minorities per se, but rather recipients of govt. largesse: e.g. welfare, unions, etc, who are historically Democratic Party voters.

also, I could give a crap about the Republicans. They're just another brand of brainwashed idiots.

"The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that." — Alan Greenspan

The biggest recipients of "government largess" are not

welfare queens, unions, or minorities of any kind. The biggest are large corporations and banks, which, historically have supported mostly Republicans (although that has been changing, typically these firms give to both sides in every election).

What about the $16 Trillion loaned to foreign banks? What about TARP? And what about (mostly white -- most black men never see a dime of this) Social Security recipients?

The fact is, we are both all tax consumers, and all tax (and debt and inflation) payers. There is simply nobody who is not both guilty recipient victimizer, and innocent taxpayer victim. There is simply not even a theoretical way to determine whose money went where.

Don't you think a welfare recipient who is forced by circumstances to live on a pittance from the government would jump at the chance to earn three or four times as much money in a productive, free market economy? That's all we have to do, is show them the way out. That is one of the reasons I am not a big Rand fan. He talks about Enterprise Zones and "restraint" in foreign policy. But when will he just come out and say, abolish the Fed, abolish the Income Tax, abolish foreign aid, and abolish aggressive warfare?

You are entitled to your opinion, but I live with a disabled African American woman who is forced by circumstances to accept Medicaid and SSI, and, believe me, she would like nothing better than to be freed to seek work which is now made essentially illegal by the ubiquitous socialism we are all fighting.

I think you just want to

I think you just want to argue. I agree with everything you said. But you didn't address my point at all. I also told you that I don't support either party.

You can continue arguing with yourself now.

"The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that." — Alan Greenspan

Good enough,

but I don't share your pessimism. The current system is a bad deal for every honest person, and I believe virtually every honest person will soon see that and call for drastic change.

And, I officially acknowledge that you don't like either party.

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"Underrepresented victims" --> Rand voters!

I think he's got a great strategy: restore voting rights to felons, and who will they vote for? Those who increase liberty, or those who reduce it?

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I would like to see Rand.

Riding with the TMOT. Though Tennessee .I would show up for that drive buy with TMOT

Money talks and dogs bark

Funny thing..

about our movement... nobody has a handle on it. Nobody.

You have a wonderful idea. Even if its parody...

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul

Doing something right

Rand must be doing something right. If he wasn't there would be zero reaction. The more intense the reaction the closer he is getting to their "territory". Well done.

Blacks have been taken for granted by the Dems for decades. Hopefully they will respond favorably to Rand Paul's message. He is speaking uncomfortable truths, not pandering. Come one, come all.

"One resists the invasion of armies; one does not resist the invasion of ideas" Victor Hugo

my friend...

Libertarians have been taken for granted since the day after America was founded. We have an agreement on paper. We do not have a republic any longer. Any grievance is met with force or bad service.

Rand is doing something right. He is uniting the country around solid positions. Rand is reaching out. Rand is attempting to solve very complex problems by talking to each community.

Im member 1603. I support Rand Paul because the apple didn't fall far from the tree. Our movement would do itself well if they realized Ron Paul isn't pissed off Rand supported Romney.

Being humble has its advantages.

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul

Being humble takes confidence

I was very impressed with Rand when he visited Howard University and I was equally impressed with the students who were polite and open-minded. Rand looked awkward, uncomfortable but very genuine.

I love that he speaks about the rights of individuals, not groups. The only path to equality for all is to focus on the rights of each individual equally.

I shake my head sometimes wondering why Rand makes certain decisions to get close to the operatives - you know the saying, lay with dogs and you get fleas. But then he amazes me again and I am back... thinking this man is crazy like a fox. He must scare the GOP.

Many on this thread make a good argument - who else?

"One resists the invasion of armies; one does not resist the invasion of ideas" Victor Hugo

Ho Hum

Seen this movie before.

92-94% will vote dem. If this is Rand's strategy, I say "God help him”. He lost more votes with his comment about voter ID a couple of months back than all this pandering will ever get him.

If he is taking these positions based on conscious, more power to him. If it is part of some plan to get elected, I dare say, idjots are in charge of that campaign.

Nearly 30% of Kentucky African Americans

say they would vote for Rand for Senate reelection. These numbers could be equaled or exceeded if he adhered to principle in the Presidential general election. Honestly, it's not pandering to "tell the truth" and actually relieve the burden on the victims of the State.

Oh cool!

Now you can vote for someone else. Good luck with that! Oh, and have fun on the ... daily... um... Paul... You know this is a liberty site? Who else will you vote for, that is, if the vote even counts?

I show my ID every time i go to vote. er... my DRIVERS license.

When did common sense become a super power?

He's doing exactly what the

He's doing exactly what the GOP has failed to do for years. You cannot grow a party at the top, you grow it at the lowest levels so you can both grow together. This is enlightened self-interest in action and Rand is smart to make friends outside of the GOP sewing circle.

It does seem that the

It does seem that the democratic party "gate keepers" of the African community are threatened by Rand Paul.

Well duh

How can they continue to claim to be helping the "African" community when Rand is actually doing it?

Also, they're American not African unless they migrated; black if you absolutely must. And if they did migrate to America then there are many countries in Africa which would be a more appropriate title. For example; my wife is Zambian. Call her an African American and you're likely to get your head bitten off ... and then she'll get mad.