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Mark of the Beast, According to Garp

After commenting on the topic "Mark of the Beast" - From the Book of Revelation, I was asked to entertain the OP with my thoughts, even if it was "just for funsies". http://www.dailypaul.com/323211/the-mark-of-the-beast-from-t... Rather than clutter up what they have going on, I decided to put my thoughts in a clear manner. These are, MY THOUGHTS and you have every right to not read them, so please choose wisely. There will be no replies to mudslingers or individuals who simply can't accept that I believe differently than themselves, or if it is obvious that you haven't read my whole novel on the subject.

So, how do I personally feel about the Mark of the Beast? Honestly I believe that it is very simple to understand. Let's break it down to the basics. When I "Mark" something, I am claiming it as my own, or in other words I OWN it. Pretty simple. While some people sit around looking for some wild beast to appear, these are people who haven't spent much time reading a Bible, or checking to see what the Bible says about "Beast". "Beast" refers to kingdoms and governments, both national governments and religious governments.

So basically we have a government, of some sort, marking God's creation as their own property. Do you know of any governments that would do such a thing? I sure do, and you do too. How many of us have a SSN? If you don't have a SSN can you leave the country, get a "normal" job (sell your labor), open a banking account, or function as a truly free person? I would think not. "But Dale, the Bible says it will say 666 you big doofus". In Biblical terms, with man being created on the sixth day, six has come to represent the "number of man". So we are "man", and the "Beast" has given us a number that represents us. Does this mean that the actual number "666" won't come into play later in life? No, it surely doesn't mean anything like that. It means that no matter how you look at it, we are boiling frogs. We are being "groomed" to accept the mark, little by little. With true Christ like faith going down, and government(beast)dependence at an all time high, you can see it in action everywhere you look.

How many of us were alive when the SSN became a supposed "necessity"? How many of us remember the outrage and the resistance that our parents, grandparents, and great grandparents put up? They were met with promises that it would ONLY be used for Social Security purposes, and of course Social Security was part of the "New Deal", which led to people depending on government rather than themselves, God, and the good people around them. It was but the first step in leading us into the final "Mark".

As Wikipedia states.."Social Security cards printed from January 1946 until January 1972 expressly stated that people should not use the number and card for identification.[13] Since nearly everyone in the United States now has a SSN, it became convenient to use it anyway and the message was removed." So my Grandparents and Great Grandparents fought against this number, then finally accepted it and accepted the government benefits that came along with getting "Marked". The SSN's started in 1936 and were simply for SS business, or so was the story. It even told you on the card that you should not use the number for identification. But what happened some 36 years later? All of a sudden that part disappears, and now you must give out that number in order to do any sort of business, get cable, sell your labor (work), cash a check, travel, or even walk down the street. We all talk about "showing our papers", but what do these "papers" all have in common? We had this magical number that helped us get every single one of those "papers".

Not hard to follow. Still don't get it? How many of us know of another way the "Beast" is trying to not only maintain control, but also focus that control into an "Earthly" control rather than a "National" control? Ever hear of "Man Made Global Warming"? Sure you have! But did you hear about the coming "Ice Age" in the 1970's? Learn about it here, http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/05/21/the-1970s-ice-... ,or here http://www.populartechnology.net/2013/02/the-1970s-global-co... Not that big of a deal I suppose, but what if I told you that government scientist and various organizations were screaming "coming ice age" from 1895 to the late twenties? And then global warming again from the thirties through the sixties? Notice a "cycle" going on here? OK OK, so what am I getting at you ask politely. :)

SSN's were introduced to a citizenry who resisted being "marked" by their government (Beast), yet gave into it after promises of it being only for SS. 36 years later, the Beast removes the statement on the cards telling you NOT to use it as identification, and now we are forced to use it for just about anything we do. 99% of people probably don't even think about it any more. I NEVER give out my SSN and people look at me like I'm a lunatic. Went to the dermatologist the other day and the lady demanded my SSN. I said No thanks, I'm just there to get my skin looked at, not to get a social security check. She says, "but you want to use your insurance card", to which I reply, "Yes, and you have that card in your hand, so go ahead and swipe it or whatever it is you do." I went and sat down, and ten minutes later I had my appointment, paid my co pay, then went on about life. I ASSuME she was mesmerized that I was able to get looked at, they were able to bill me, and all this happened without me giving up some number.

NOW. Could you imagine a Dr. or nurse asking your Grandparents for their SSN just to be seen, back in say..1940? It wouldn't have happened, it was too soon for that, so the Beast waits. Ever wonder why the government (Beast) keeps things secret for a minimum of 50 years? If something terrible happened fifty years ago, where is the outrage now? Who can be held accountable now? Can't the Beast just apologize and say "Well we screwed up and we'll never do that again, please forgive us"? Examples you ask..you got it! 1932 The Tuskegee Syphilis Study begins, 1935 The Pellagra Incident, 1945 Project Paperclip is initiated, 1945 "Program F" is implemented by the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission (BTW, this is where your fluoride came from, thank the German scientist brought over by Operation Paperclip), and let's not forget the Guatemalan people who were inflicted with diseases while believing they were being helped. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/29/guatemala-experimen... Of course Obama called and apologized for something that happened before he was born, so who is going to be held responsible? Who is going to learn from something that happened before most of us were born? The Beast simply waits. The Beast won't die, its citizens will die, but not before breeding new slaves that are even more ignorant to our true history than the ones that came before them.

Some, who don't understand the differences between Christianity as a lifelong faith (attempting to live a Christ like life), and Christianity as a "Religion", will surely ask why aren't churches standing up on these principles and pointing them out to the masses? The Bible tells you that if you worship money then you can not worship God. If you love one, then you must despise the other, so they mix like oil and water. I will never preach against a congregation, but I will tell you that it breaks my heart to see the deceived fall into the materialistic and worldly ways that churches and religion have come to accept and sometimes condone. Churches won't speak out because their governing body (beast system) would rather lead their flock astray than give up their tax exempt status. It would mean that the churches would have less money to operate on. But I ask you this..if the churches aren't directly facing off with the most important issues of their times, then why would they even need a budget? It doesn't take much money to hold services and preach the word, yet there can never be enough money for the modern Beast friendly church.

Speaking of "church systems", how many times have we had the arguments about "Christianity" killing millions of people simply because they don't believe as they do? My argument is that "Christians" didn't do that, the Roman Catholic Church did that, at the demands of the Pope, who claims to be God on earth. Nowhere in my Bible does Christ say to kill those who preach without a license, or kill people who dare read the Bible for themselves, or simply don't believe in God or His gift of salvation through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. In fact Christ says, and I'm paraphrasing.."if you go into a town and preach the gospel, and they do not accept your message, then simply kick off the dust from your sandals, and move on". That doesn't sound like kill those who don't believe as we do. I believe that not only are most modern protestant churches now deceived, but I say without apologies that the Roman Catholic Church system, NOT ITS FOLLOWERS, are the true spirit of the Anti Christ. The Bible says you shall know them by their fruits. A good tree will not grow rotten fruit, and a rotten tree will not bear good fruit. It is really that simple. I call the death of millions, for simply reading on their own, or preaching without a license, or daring follow a different church, rotten fruit.

WHY FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DID YOU GO THERE DALE????

"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws."
- Mayer Amschel Rothschild

The Mark of the Beast, that's why. Did you know that every nation with a central bank, much like our non federal non reserve, has some sort of national identification number (Mark) for its citizens? Have you noticed that each nation we invade..I mean "assist" in bringing "democracy"..didn't have central banks, yet it's the first thing that is done? Why do you think Iran is always in the war drum songs? They are debt free, and are not under the control of international bankers. I'm guessing that you might have heard of this supposed "New World Order"..and I ASSuME that you understand that this will be a one world government that is basically run by bankers, or money changers as Christ would call them. In fact Christ threw them out of the Temple for their dirty ways of getting rich, while sitting at a table and charging people to "change their money" to the correct coinage for giving to the temple and its "works".

OK OK so what does this NWO, banks, and what not have to do with the Pope, or the Beastly RCC? Well guess who is pushing the Man Made global warming agenda http://guardianlv.com/2014/05/pope-francis-links-climate-cha..., and a one world currency issued by a single governing body. http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2011/10/24/vaticans_...

So...what now? We were given a number, which represents man, and it has slowly become a huge part of our lives. The more you are dependent upon the government beast, the more dependent you are upon the mark you have been given. We know that there is but one Beast in the end, so this power needs to be centralized, and it needs to cover the entire planet eventually. We know that this power will be the antithesis of God, and His will for us. The love of money and materialistic things are exactly that. Who is in control of the money? Governments? NOPE. Central banks...and how do you centralize the powers of the nations? You have one governing bank for the whole planet, rather than each country having their own. We all know this NWO thing is about a world government, the only thing we disagree on, is whether the Bible warns us about what is happening, and I believe it does. Some people call Revelations very "vague", and I say it isn't vague unless you are simply guessing at all the things that could possibly happen, instead of staying silent, staying still, and being watchful of the world around you. The only difference between an atheist on the DP, and myself? We are both fighting the same battle, we share the same enemy, and despise the same tyranny they will bring, only mine is a spiritual battle above and beyond the physical battle. I have a good idea just how it turns out, but there is nothing left to do but fight, and hopefully educate people along the way. I am not your enemy because of the faith I have, and I am no less competent to what is happening in this world because of my faith. I would actually say that the opposite is much more likely, and if it wasn't for my faith and Bible study, I probably wouldn't be here, much less "awake".

So I believe that the world will unite behind a world government, led by banks, in order to "save the economy, environment, and help the poor", exactly as Pope Francis has called for. This governing body of bankers will be your ultimate BEAST, you are already numbered with the number of a man, as in yourself and your SSN, and you are already being slowly immersed into the ways of the BEAST. No banking, no selling of your labor, no travel, but yet the Bible says you will not be able to buy without the mark. Surely it must be more than a social security card, and the Bible tells you in the forehead or on the hand, right? Have you seen the Philadelphia Federal Reserves, "Money in Motion" display? Take a look at it here, and please click on number 16, "Payments 2200", please be sure to look at the clothing, and notice nothing about chips mentioned on the website. http://www.philadelphiafed.org/education/money-in-motion/vir... OK, Good. Now here is a Youtube video that deals with that exact exhibit, that's why you were to notice the clothing. Please watch about the first three minutes of this video. It will show you the exhibit, and how microchips are mandatory for making purchases, and it also has a bonus surprise..well not a surprise because I'm going to tell you about it real quick. During Roberts confirmation hearing for supreme court justice, one SENATOR Biden tells him that he personally guarantees him that he will have to decide whether a company can demand their employees be chipped so that the company knows their whereabouts at all times. Say it isn't so...Joe. Please, just give it three minutes. There was a shorter version but I couldn't find it.

So there you have it, my beliefs when it comes to Revelations, and why we are all here trying to fight the good fight. I can't say that I don't "Care" about your spiritual life, because I would be lying if I didn't admit that I wish everyone believed that God sent His only begotten Son, to die on a cross for our sins, and that having this true belief would lead you to good works in the name of Christ, and that even without those works the grace of God would give you everlasting life through the blood of Christ. That is how I truly feel about each and every one of you. However, I understand that we are all different people and we believe very differently and I respect that. As I have said before, we all have a common enemy whether we are religious, faithful, or none of the above, and we should band together to fight against the coming "New World Order" and the tyranny that it will bring. Whether this is a physical world battle, a spiritual battle, or any combination of the two, we are all on the same team. We should respect each other and our beliefs. I have no problem with people of other cultures or beliefs, but I do have a problem with people who are disrespectful, spiteful, and just plain nasty and condescending. I hope this clears up where I stand. May God be with us all.

Dale



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They've been using the technology in clubs for years

It makes more sense the mark would be a physical one.


http://youtu.be/p3Ql_-bpytA

Need to focus on what scripture says.

It doesn't say it has to be physical. That doesn't mean it's not.

It says:

-it's on hand and on your forehead
-without it you cannot buy nor sell
-it is the number of your name

Dale seems to believe that he does not have one. Good for him. However, babies born since 2001 do not have the choices he has very, very few will have the options Dale currently exercises.

With respect, Dale, you're being myopic. Just because you don't believe you have it, the very same thing you do have, while for you it does not meet all the criteria, does appear to meet all the criteria for most or all who are 1 to 2 generations younger than you.

I'm afraid not.

Babies born since 2001 do have a choice, if their parents speak up. I have four children, and one has turned 18 and made the choice to get her SSN. The other three do not have SSN's. So that test has failed you my friend.

The Bible says that he makes all people take the mark. There is not a one world beast at this time, there are many who are trying to concentrate that power, but it hasn't happened yet. There are many people who have no idea what a national identification number is, and yet to be marked in any way. You can easily buy and sell normal items without a mark, and yet has anyone asked me to prove my mark in order to make a purchase.

And yes, just a generation or two later it is getting harder and harder, which is why I described us as boiling frogs. We are being groomed, but it isn't here yet. That is why I find it important to educate my younger family, and they will hopefully stay watchful, and educate those who come after us. People are always looking for these things to come quickly upon us, and they don't. The Beast will take its time, the Beast has nothing but time, where we don't.

Look how long it took to go from issuing numbers, to needing them to open an banking account. 1936-2001 is 65 years, when most of those who even remembered the numbers being issued, and the thoughts of the "Beast Mark", were/are such a minority, and probably written off as old lunatics who can't keep up with the times. The Beast isn't stupid, and has all the time in the world.

You believe what you wish, but I don't believe there is a full fledged Biblical "Mark" out there just yet. It's coming, but it's not here yet.

Question

If your 18 year old had chosen to not get an SSN, could s/he have

-gotten a job?
-enrolled in college?
-taken a loan?
-bought a new car?
-opened a bank account in his/her own name?
-gotten a credit card?

I'm really not sure

what it is that you aren't getting from my novel. She could easily work for me without a SSN. Yes, you can enroll in college without a SSN, but you couldn't get loans. Why? Because that is depending upon the Beast, which requires a SSN, unless you are an illegal alien of course. Yes she could buy any car she wanted without a SSN because we don't finance cars, we save for them. No to opening a bank account, which I have pointed out on several occasions, and why would she need a credit card?

BTW, she wasn't FORCED (which is the key word here) to get a SSN, and we had a very long conversation before she got hers. Boiling frogs my friend, boiling frogs.

And now the kicker.

How about a drivers license?

Kicker?

Nope, no SSN required.. http://www.dps.state.ok.us/dls/pub/DOCS.pdf

And even if it was, that still doesn't make your SSN "THE MARK".

Not sure what you are seeing in all of this, but I'm seeing that we definitely do not bear any forced "Mark" at this time. Is it coming down the pipeline? Sure it is. Am I "myopic" as you say? Certainly not. If you look at our conversations, your unwavering contention that we somehow have THE MARK while being proven wrong time and again..wouldn't that make you the "myopic" one? I'm not narrow minded and I'm sure not short sighted, because this will be a long drawn out ordeal more than likely. Let's see..perhaps you mean that I am lacking tolerance or understanding? Guess I don't see that either.

Perhaps you can explain why you would criticize me as being "myopic".

Please clarify for me..

Not really sure I'm grasping the first part of your post. "The mark can not be physical or else they could not us all out and we would be condemned."

Context my good friend..

15 And it was permitted to him to give a spirit unto the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast should speak, and should cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16 And he made all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand or in their foreheads.

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark or the name of the beast or the number of his name.

I have not been "forced" to take anything at this point of my life. So far in my life there hasn't been anyone killed for not worshiping an image, and there are many people who still aren't forced to take a SSN. Also, I'm pretty sure that there is no "mark" on my forehead or my right hand. :P Thanks for asking though!

Really?

Did you apply for your own SSN?

Can you opt out of it?

Can you transact in commerce without it?

Is it encoded in the magnetic strip or 2D bar code on the drivers license in your hand?

Is it on your mind when applying for a job, credit, or when you buy or sell something over $3000 or over $10,000?

We're talking about YOU right now, not others.

Sure thing..

Did you apply for your own SSN?
Yes I did

Can you opt out of it?
Not sure, haven't tried

Can you transact in commerce without it?
I certainly CAN at the moment.

Is it encoded in the magnetic strip or 2D bar code on the drivers license in your hand?
Not really sure, are you?

Is it on your mind when applying for a job, credit, or when you buy or sell something over $3000 or over $10,000?
Sorry, I don't fit any of that criteria.

We're talking about YOU right now, not others.
Works for me. :)