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Ukrainians Burning Military Drafts - Cowardice Will Save the World!

Ukrainians are burning their military drafts, refusing to hand over their sons to the Ukraine's Ministry of Defense. I salute this brave act of these brave and independent thinking people. Only if the rest of the world was like this, the wars would become the thing of the past.


http://youtu.be/J_R9-LCwd54

Another more recent video of people protesting the draft:


http://youtu.be/mRwsG1DlEaQ

And if anyone needs further explanation of why this is a good thing, please watch a 1964 American comedy-drama war film “The Americanization of Emily”

Here's one key excerpt to get you thinking:

“That night, I sat in the jungles of Guadalcanal, waiting to be killed, sopping wet. Then I had my blinding revelation: I discovered I was a coward. That’s my new religion. I’m a coward. I’m a big believer in it. Cowardice will save the world.” … “We shall never end wars Mrs. Barum, by blaming it on ministers and generals, or warmongering imperialists, or all the other banal bogies. It's the rest of us who build statues to those generals and name boulevards after those ministers. The rest of us who make heroes of our dead and shrines of our battlefield.”

Read more of this interesting conversation from the movie here.

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The number of STRANGE posts here on DP is INCREASING!

As some of you probably know, I am an international citizen, having lived in Scandinavia, as well as the USA, in Central America, in Latvia and Switzerland as well as in UKRAINE during the past 5 - 6 years.

I have traveled a lot in both Russia and Ukraine and talked to lots of people in both countries, and have very good friends in both countries. So I should be fairly qualified to speak on the subject. Based on that my comment will be:

Hmmmm....let me see...this would be like if the US found itself in a situation when nobody would join your military, not even to fight inside their own country to keep foreign intruders out. YES! That would be exactly it. I do firmly believe that Ukraine has a right to remain an independent country and they should NOT have to accept that another country, (neighbor) takes one piece after another away from them.

With that said, I have also been to Crimea several times. This used to be such a beautiful part of Ukraine and now it is Russian territory. I am even to this day spending a lot of time in Nikolaev, not too far from the border to Crimea and feel sad about the fact that I can no longer go down to Simferopol or Yalta. (I would have to go back to a European country and apply for a visa to Russia from there) However, although I do feel sad about this, - I have also been know to say the following:

If I was sitting in President Putins chair, I would probably have done the same as he did when he took control over Crimea. After all, Russia has one of its most important naval bases in Sevastopol in Crimea. This does not mean that I like it, and it does not even mean I have to agree with it 100%. But, - I am able to understand.

But, when it comes to the rest of Ukraine, I say to my Russian friends: Tell your president to keep his hands off even one square kilometer of land in Eastern Ukraine!! And stop supporting those crazy guys trying to establish their own Russian supported republic there.

And this is what it boils down to. Ukraine needs to strengthen their military NOT for purpose of moving into another country, (which the US has done all too often!!) but for the purpose of fighting an enemy within their own country. A Russian supported enemy.

And in closing. I have also been to Odessa many, many times and even have friends in this beautiful city, including a couple of American friends there. When more than 100 people were killed in the riots in Odessa a few months ago, this was a direct result of RUSSIAN supported "terrorists" coming into Odessa from Transnistria, a small tiny enclave between Moldova and the WESTERN part of Ukraine, only a few miles from Odessa. Transnistria has been supported by Russia for years, and could not exist there without this support. And by the way, it is a crazy little place full of gangsters who I am sure for years have been looking for an excuse to move into Ukraine and Odessa.

And again, should not Ukraine build a solid military force to protect themselves from all this?? Of course they should, and they MUST do this!

I am not sure about your experience as an outsider,

but I do know that when a country is fighting a just war, there is no need to hunt down volunteers with guns, threaten with jail time to those who refuse to take up arms and shed blood, and let alone have to deal with angry population. The fact that so many people are openly rebelling is a strong indication that something is fishy with Ukraine's government's moral reasons for fighting this civil war.

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National Socialist states conscript.

They justify their criminal enslavement by picking fights with neighbors.

Free market actors talk with people and trade with them for mutual benefit.

Free includes debt-free!

OMG!! "What if they had a

OMG!! "What if they had a war and nobody came?"
Got any Joan Baez for us?
I mean, yeah, there have been a lot of useless wars, but where would we be if everyone burned their draft cards in 1941?
Very occasionally, and I mean VERY occasionally, there is something that's actually WORTH fighting for! The American Revolution, the War of 1812, and WW2 were just causes, though WW2 would never have happened if we hadn't gotten involved in WW1. If we had left the Europeans to slog it out for another 10 years, they would've reached a much more equitable armistice and the conditions that saw Hitler rise to power would have never existed.
For those Ukrainians that have no problem being annexed by Russia, I don't blame them. I'm not sure to what extent it's a liberty vs. tyranny thing, in that I don't know just how free Ukraine is and how tyrannical Russia is. Kind of like that Who song: New boss, same as the old boss.
If that's the case, it certainly isn't worth dying for, but I wouldn't label it cowardice.
I guess more than anything, I'm irritated at the tenor of the comments. Picture Cartman yelling, "God Damned Hippies!!!" I think it's between that and Sean Connery in The Rock singing "If you're going to San Francisco"! LMAO

for now at least . . .

they ( ? ) can't hold a war if nobody shows up :

I am not only a pacifist but a militant pacifist. I am willing to fight for peace. Nothing will end war unless the people themselves refuse to go to war.
- Albert Einstein

{ emphasis by ecliptic }
http://www.wisdomquotes.com/quote/albert-einstein-65.html

Why in the world

would you use the word "cowardice"?

:fear that makes you unable to do what is right or expected
:lack of courage

Nope, don't see it.

If you read the entire post, you would have understood

that the reason I used the word cowardice was to create a connection to the 1964 movie "The Americanization of Emily" whose strong theme is refusal to fight in a war and criticizing all of those who celebrate war heroes and build monuments to generals that command people to battle. From that you can grasp the higher meaning and realize the enormous courage it actually takes to resist. Please check it out!

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I did read the entire post. Still a bad choice in MY opinion.

Thank you. Simply saying that "the reason I used the word cowardice was to create a connection to the 1964 movie "The Americanization of Emily" whose strong theme is refusal to fight in a war and criticizing all of those who celebrate war heroes and build monuments to generals that command people to battle." would have been just fine. There's no reason to ASSuME that I didn't read your post. If I didn't read it, then I wouldn't have commented on it in the first place. Obviously, looking through the comments, I'm not the only one that thought it was a bad word to use in the headline. But if your information is getting out, and your movies are getting watched, then that's all that matters in the end.

why the down votes?

is this early stage of recruting for ww3?

Probably

the very ignorant use of the word "cowardice".

Non-Compliance

Simple, effective.

God forgives always. Man forgives sometimes. But Nature never forgives.

Civil Disobedience is not Cowardice

Agreed. Refusal to fight is not cowardice, it's fighting the true enemy of peace.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

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"Universal Soldier"

Great post! Noted the movie to watch later, thanks. I thought of this song, one of Ron Pauls favorites..

"Universal Soldier"

He's five foot-two, and he's six feet-four,
He fights with missiles and with spears.
He's all of thirty-one, and he's only seventeen,
Been a soldier for a thousand years.

He'a a Catholic, a Hindu, an Atheist, a Jain,
A Buddhist and a Baptist and a Jew.
And he knows he shouldn't kill,
And he knows he always will,
Kill you for me my friend and me for you.

And he's fighting for Canada,
He's fighting for France,
He's fighting for the USA,
And he's fighting for the Russians,
And he's fighting for Japan,
And he thinks we'll put an end to war this way.

And he's fighting for Democracy,
He's fighting for the Reds,
He says it's for the peace of all.
He's the one who must decide,
Who's to live and who's to die,
And he never sees the writing on the wall.

But without him,
How would Hitler have condemned them at Dachau?
Without him Caesar would have stood alone,
He's the one who gives his body
As a weapon of the war,
And without him all this killing can't go on.

He's the Universal Soldier and he really is to blame,
His orders come from far away no more,
They come from here and there and you and me,
And brothers can't you see,
This is not the way we put the end to war.

P.S. Entire Ukraine Military Brigade Abandons the Battlefield and Surrenders to Donbass Militia-The Shrinking Cauldron – The Surrender of the 72nd Brigade

Four hundred and thirty eight Ukrainian servicemen have requested asylum in Russia and moved into the Russian territory.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/entire-ukraine-military-brigade...

If Wars Can Be Started by Lies, They Can Be Stopped By Truth.

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You mean BRAVERY

not Cowardice right? Takes a big pair to stand up to these Nazi thugs in my book!

"Government is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex". - Frank Zappa

Yes, you've got it!

I borrowed that word from the movie "The Americanization of Emily." See text in the post. Practicing disobedient cowardice in tyranny is a brave act, often ended in front of a firing squad. But if enough people say no together, the masters quickly give in. By the way, that movie is highly recommended for all libertarians to watch.

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Wow! That's amazing! And it

Wow! That's amazing! And it was Howard Hughes' breakout film!

Loved The Aviator. Gwen Stephani was so amazing as Jean Harlow (I stinking line! Wow!) Well, she did look like her, at least...

Amazing movie, though, seriously!

Cowardice? yadranko, you

Cowardice? yadranko, you need a reality check.

Thanks for the comment.

But you gave me nothing new to hang on to. I did have my reality check, and the refusal to fight wars of aggression is what I arrived with. I still carry a big stick for self-defense though. Now patiently waiting for your heads up life changing ideas on fighting wars...

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Concientious objectors are

Concientious objectors are not cowards. They are knowingly making a political statement and taking a political stance. That's brave, IMO. Sure, some might be doing it for cowardice reason, but the general movement is grounded in political opposition.

Do Ukrainian moms love their children...

more than American moms?
http://www.dailypaul.com/323390/do-ukrainian-moms-love-their...

I went a lil nuts when titling my post, of this same video, but that's what I was feelin at the time... This is a great video. Glad it is getting some more views here.

Sorry,

I didn't notice that you posted it earlier, and I did wonder why I couldn't find it posted by someone by then. But at least it's better to be redundant than not seeing it passed around at all. Let's keep up the good work!

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No worries friend...

Like I said, this video is important and I am glad it is getting seen here.
I see this as the future as the world continues to get smaller, people saying no to the warmongers... standing up and saying NO MORE can you have the lives of our children for your pointless wars! Once again, I continue to have hope for humanity!
Keep up the good work :)

Here is the 2nd video from my post- Enjoy how they treat their parliamentary representative for trying to send their loved-ones to fight, under the new "mobilization order".

http://youtu.be/We7Cy8YSPVU

Thank you!

I couldn't watch that one without cheering loudly :)

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Just Say NO

What if they called for a war and nobody came?

Don't be a bitch. Just say NO.

Tell them - "I'm a conscientious objector."

No further expanation about this being a good thing needed.

It is a VERY GOOD THING.

I just came back from Ukraine where I spent two weeks.

I have a very good friend who lives with her mother in Lugansk - city currently surrounded by Ukrainian artillery and mortar fire. Hundreds of people have been killed in the street just for living there.

I paid to have my friend and her mother relocated for at least the time being to Kiev where they will be safe, for now. I am renting them an apartment for a month.

They don't know if the apartment they own, or the building it is in, will be there if and when they are able to return to Lugansk.

Once a thriving city, Lugansk is now a ghost town, with few people, no water, no electricity and nothing to find in the stores to eat (those few stores that remain open).

The military is killing civilians indiscriminately. And hundreds of military people are abandoning their posts. Yet the US is firmly behind the Ukrainians and this entire action.

I am glad to see this video.

Thank you for that little update.

I know wars, as I've seen and participated in them in my native Western Balkans. These videos kinda gave me hope as it is something I've never seen or heard of before, but from what you are saying the reality on the ground sounds much worse than I dare to imagine. All the more a reason to keep spreading the message of freedom and peace as loud as possible.

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If only enough people did this during the Vietnam War

Imagine, if you will, that during the Vietnam War, Americans ages 18 to 26 en masse burned their draft cards, and refused to go to war if drafted. Imagine that they got armed, and refused to allow each other to be arrested for non-compliance with the draft, gave the enforcers a right to leave, but used violence in self defense to protect themselves from confiscation should the enforcers not leave. Win or lose, courage is contagious.

It would have been all over, for that war. There may not have been a Kent State massacre, or if there was, that wouldn't have been the end of it; there would have been massive blowback, had that courage been summoned.

Americans instead cowered, by doing what they were told. They followed their orders and killed based on a lie, instead of facing their tormentors. Monsanto, DuPont, Lockheed, and their ilk all got richer, the taxpayers got poorer, families were permanently destroyed on both sides, and the domestic police force further entrenched itself into our lives, for no good reason.

Next time such a war based on a lie occurs, I hope Americans aren't so forgiving. We aren't domesticated animals, are we? Americans, collectively, need to grow a pair and assert their rights, non-violently if possible, violently if necessary.

I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws our country. ~Thomas Jefferson

I Was Young And Didn't Know Any Better

I trusted what the U.S. Government told me that if communism got a foothold in Southeast Asia it would spread to the western hemisphere. I knew of the evils of communist collectivism so Lydon Johnson didn't have to draft me; at the age of 18 years I joined the Navy in 1966 to do my part in fighting the communist red menace.

Four years later 48,736 of my American brethren had perished in a foreign land and more were to be killed after that (see: http://www.archives.gov/research/military/vietnam-war/casual... ).

Many decades afterward I asked myself, "What did they die for, what was gained, why was the most powerful military in the region losing this war?" I never even considered the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people that were slaughtered. Their deaths are always greater in numbers than actual combatants.

I came to realize that nearly all wars fought between nations are founded upon lies and deceit to cover up some nefarious agenda. I have since become a nihilist when it comes to what Washington tells me, the lickspittles in the national media, the blowhard bureaucrats, the religious fanatics and especially the political party dogmatists. They are the evil in the world, the misanthropes, the ones who make hell for everyone here on earth.

Educate your grandchildren about the horror of killing others who do you no harm simply because of their political or philosophical differences. Give them the benefit of your personal experiences and remind them as Christians their eternal soul will outlast their human form.

Lastly, ask God to forgive you for your own transgressions and try to make amends to your fellow man in some way. Peace be with you.

Another more recent protest against mobilization

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