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Lanny Davis says you are not forced to pay taxes.

Lanny Davis says you are not forced to pay taxes. Part 2
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Jan - Question To You

You said taxes paying for a fire dept are not redistribution since you're getting something for your tax dollars. But let's say that you never have a fire. Your tax dollars would then be paying to put out fires in other people's houses. In other words, you're not getting the benefit. I guess you could argue that you're getting "peace of mind" in the event you do have a fire. But then couldn't he have countered with "you also get 'peace of mind' that, if you ever become poor, you'll have a safety net".

How would you have responded to that?

Jan Helfeld's picture

You are paying to protect yourself against a risk

You are paying to protect yourself against a risk you don't control i.e., others negligence - fire spreads and kills.

Jan Helfeld

Insurance

payment

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Correct

Correct.

Jan Helfeld

Jan you say you are doing Socratic Method

and you are the master of the deadpan but i'm pre-programmed at this point to just expect comedy. I think it's 3 times now you have nearly made me pee my pants.

If I ever am so honored to do security for us again at a large event, when we "clear media", everybody has to go EXCEPT you and Rudowski. Not only are you trusted name-brands, you guys always have this devilish card up your sleeve and I would arrest you if i wasn't doubled up in the corner trying with every ounce of my strength....

not to pee my pants.

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

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Yes, there is a comedic take on these interviews.

Yes, there is a comedic take on these interviews. Thank you for your support and comment.

Jan Helfeld

he said

dryly

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

Lol

Lol

Lanny complains about loaded questions then is incorrect.

Lanny asks incorrect questions.

Always love these Jan :)

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Thank you for your support and comment.

Thank you for your support and comment.

Jan Helfeld

Legal Fiction Believers United?

Samuel Butler's (1612-1680) 17th-century poem Hudibras. Part III, Canto iii, lines 547-550 read thus:
He that complies against his will
Is of his own opinion still
Which he may adhere to, yet disown,
For reasons to himself best known

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SWuXncoKsM

Joe

lol...

wow. i can't believe he just said, converted from his "newspeak", "i don't like the words used there because it exposes my whole ideology as a violent authoritarian control freak."

I use Blue Wave, but don't expect one of THEIR silly taglines.

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Ya, if they didn't force you

Ya, if they didn't force you to pay, I WOULDN'T!!

Beware the cult of "government"...

They dont force you to pay

They dont force you to pay taxes, they just force you to go to jail afterwards if you dont.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

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Yes

Yes.

Jan Helfeld

Oh to be a politician

Means that you speak an entirely different language, one of question-dodging, word-spinning, and obfuscation.

How can ANYONE LIKE "the government" system when men like this are the result?

Only the case when

you have folks willing to fight off and overwhelm for you the force that they will send after you to drag you off to a dungeon.

government income redistribution

I've found the results of your interviews of public officials and party leaders about voluntary taxes as redistributive income to be quite appalling. That psychopathic tyrants and intellectual ignorants are at the helm is akin to the fox standing watch over the chicken coop. Steele is insane (ask him if slavery is voluntary), Davis stupidly banters drivel, Hoeffel's adherence to Constitutional governance and the Bill of Rights is a fraud, and Becerra refuses 'to go there'.

Everyone, send Jan's work everywhere.

Jan, interview Bill Benson, www.thelawthatneverwas.com.

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Thank you for your support and comment.

Thank you for your support and comment.

Jan Helfeld

'Redistribution' is certainly a loaded term

It implies that we're talking about something other than theft.

Reminds me of an interview of Matt Kibbe on the Schiff show. Matt was talking about his recent book and said something like "If we believe in a limited government we still have to be honest about what taxation is. It's theft. So I'm arguing for limited theft."

That statement shows a hell of a lot of intellectual integrity. That's a guy you can have a discussion with. He doesn't use words like redistribution to try to pretend it's not theft. He just thinks it's the price of having a limited government, and he thinks limited government is better than no government.

loaded?

When did "redistribution" become a loaded term?

Loaded with adjectives??? The problem is that Davis doesn't want to call a spade for what it actually is, a spade.

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Davis says the government does not redistribute!

He also says the government does not redistribute the citizens wealth!

Jan Helfeld

Lanny used to be a really good liar...

he is slipping.

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I helped him slip.

I helped him slip.

Jan Helfeld

Indeed you did :-)

I am still waiting for you to help "Tea-party Mike" along, which based upon past experience, should be a piece of cake:

https://app.box.com/s/jjixclio6oq2dfc4klyb

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Yea

I'm sure they won't send armed goons to your door and drag you off to prison either.