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So what else newbies (and oldies)?

You supported Ron Paul, you're happy that the Ark is open, and accepting new passengers.

My intention with all this is that The Ark is accepting kind and gentle people. We get enough of the mean and aggressive ones on "Crossfire," CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, Breitbart, etc. That whole rest of the sensationalist BS MSM mind control pits.

I'm looking for thoughtful people. Part of the disappointment of the Daily Paul for me is that sometimes it just feels like an MSM repeater. And that falls far, far short of the potential of the internet. .

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The same year that I went to Egypt (1998), I went to Norway, to visit relatives. I flew there from Berlin, where I was staying with my German girlfriend, Petra.

I spent some time in Trondheim, visited my cousins there. Got a hero's welcome, really. They were kind, gentle people who wanted to welcome their exotic half Japanese, American relative to Norway. It was nice.

But after Trondheim, I made my way to an island, whose name I have by now forgot. It was small island, population 3,000 max. And it was otherwise pristine. And I mean pristine. Paved roads, and that was about it. Everything else left to nature.

Kristen picked me up at the dock. We drove, though that windswept, deserted country island. The air on that island was so pristine, that I could actually smell the different components of an automobile's while simply standing beside it. I could smell the beast!

When we arrive at her home, I get out of the car. We go inside, and I sit down on the couch, in a strange home that I'd never been to, in a foreign country I'd also never been to, that is on the other side of the world from home. It is the most random place in the world.

Kristen pulls out a photo album, opens it up an low and behold! There is a picture of me in it. Some random shot at our old, old house. I'm totally little.

It was the weirdest sensation in the world. There are no words to describe that sensation, but I still remember it. It was like a rubber band. That is the best I can say. Try to imagine what a trip that was.

That is the same kind of feeling I get when I hear people thanking me for opening up the Ark. It is a weird feeling that I don't know what to do with. It is weird.

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So what else? You supported Ron Paul, you're happy that the Ark is open. What else?

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Are you guys here to support Rand? I know some people are. My problem is that I'm not interested in seeing a rerun. I saw a rerun in 2012 of 2008. There was too much emotion, that clouded rationality. I'm not interested in re experiencing that. I'd like to watch, but I want interesting seats. "Rah rah Rand" is not an interesting seat for me.

Has Rand said anything about Obama bombing Iraq? I don't even have to check to know what Ron thinks of that.

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What other kinds of things are you into? Gardening? Cars? Sports?

It used to didn't be in the past, but it is okay to be a whole person around here now.

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“We, as a group, now have a

“We, as a group, now have a greater moral responsibility to act than those who live in ignorance. Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it.”

The first time I heard Ron make this statement, it was something I already understood and believed. He simple reenforced it for me.

I come to the Daily Paul for the fellowship with like-minded liberty oriented individuals. I am a self taught musician and a huge history dork. I have two children, ages 11 and 9, and if you ask them, "what is the Federal Reserve?" They can both give a more satisfying answer than most adults can.

For me, the biggest "what else?" lies in the quote above. The details are up to us. What are we going to do? I am exploring local government and going from there. We will never get anywhere unless we get involved locally and change local and state laws. Putting all of our hopes in one man running for President is not going to bring our revolution to fruition. We need to focus our energies. It will take changing peoples minds, which is what makes our revolution an intellectual one.

Love your post Michael and I've sensed your frustration for a long time.
Godspeed my friend.

Yes, "it is okay to be a to be a whole person" here.

If I recall correctly, at one point you asked in what course or direction should the Ark sail. I gave that a lot of thought and finally have formed an opinion about that.

Like it or not, the Daily Paul has become the Voice of the Liberty Movement and that Movement is made up of living, breathing, intelligent, human beings who care about more than just themselves. To abandon the course set for Liberty would turn this site into another Facebook. I see signs of that happening every day lately, with little flirtations and chit chat about nothing that helps anybody achieve anything, except pass the time of day.

I'm not talking about sharing personal stories. We are whole people who have come together and have come to value each other and support each other, because we are all necessary to win the good fight for Liberty. Our stories often help others in similar circumstances. The kind of people we are comes out in those stories. That is important for others outside of our community to know. We are not "those crazy Ron Paul kooks".

Sure, gardening, cooking, and such are good topics, because they help us to learn to be more self sufficient. Some forms of entertainment are good, if they help us to see things from a different perspective or if they help us grow in knowledge. Even a weekend music or football party is okay, when there is nothing of significance going on to discuss. And, hey! Everyone needs a break!

But, to take our focus off of current events would be, in my opinion, a huge mistake. There's a lot at stake in our country and in the world during these troubled times. We have made an impact but, we've a long way to go. I would hate to see the Voice of the Liberty Movement devolve into something less than the caliber of its members. Lose our Voice and we lose the war.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

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Right now my life is pretty

Right now my life is pretty much consumed with music. Started a band almost 2 years ago and other than day-to-day stuff that's what I'm into. I'm an old guy (relatively) living a young guy's game, and loving every minute of it. My long term semi professional employment gets in the way sometimes but until the time is right, or they tell not to show up anymore, I guess I'll keep earning a paycheck too!
My kids are adults and I've got time for pursuits of my own, so music is what I choose to do with my time.
We're about to get ourselves into the studio to record our first CD and working on getting a website together, but for now if you're interested you can check us out on our Face Book page, if you do that sorta thing.
The Creek Heathens - Outlaw Bluegrass??
Be warned the NAP does not apply in much of our music!!
I'm the Bassanjo Player, which is a whole other discussion.

Deeper down the hole ...

Are you having a hard time getting over the election results of 2008 & 2012
Well my dear friends I still haven't gotten over the election of 1860

My Name is Christopher Weber and I authorize this message.


old article but you get the picture

Life is a sexually transmitted disease with a 100% fatality rate.
Don't Give me Liberty, I'll get up and get it myself!

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This site is a win

Mainly because I just joined. Just Kidding.....but really..

Let me say this, I am here because I feel like the liberty movement is finally becoming organized. I constantly see people organizing events, discussing new things, and making positive changes. I want to be part of the conversation. If we all can use the ideas floating around on sites like this to change one persons perspective of the world, we will fulfill our potential. Exponential growth is extremely powerful.

I'm here

Because of the comments below, and of course, the ones above, after I finish posting my comment.

"A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself within" W. Durant

The 5 reasons I'm here every

The 5 reasons I'm here every day, greatest to least:

1. All posts about Rand, Ron and Justin's activities show up here quickly and I get to view, read and maybe comment on them.

2. Libertarian activism. I can hone my knowledge of libertarianism and share and amplify/douse others, the latter can be passive. If the UP DOWN vote button were removed, DP would be much less appealing.

3. To share with a portion of the 70,000 lurkers at DP (not so much other commenters, we don't agree much) my wisdom and decades experience in media and punditry, politics, elections, polls, free enterprise education, marketing, advertising, the federal budget, k-12 public education, fundraising and volunteer management,etc. I keep my mouth shut on most other topics, try to make my place in DP about learning and not ego.

4. A mind that doesn't like idling. What is moderately entertaining --like watching the Red Sox lose again --- becomes tolerable with my laptop and the DP.

5. Not really a friend making kind of person, online anyway, but that Nystrom guy has truly grown on me since 2007. The man is endlessly thirsty. We share commonalities too.

10-15 million more voters need to believe in non-interventionism (liberty) at home and abroad to change America. Minds changed on Syria. Minds changing on privacy. "Printing money" is part of the dialogue. Win minds through focus, strategy.

Other things I am into...

I am into solo hiking. I happen to live in the Blue Ridge Mountains and so it is very easy to get into the woods. I love the woods. If I am feeling down and out, angry or very unenlightened, I go to the woods. I have found that three hours of time in the woods completely clears out my head, my aura, my being, and if I went into the hike contemplating death and dying, I leave the hike with a smile on my face. I prefer to hike alone because I like silence and the sounds of nature.

I also am into yoga. I have only been practicing yoga for three years, but it is a wonderful experience, not only physically, but in consciousness. I have my own home practice plus I go to a nearby yoga center one or twice a week.

I have also been on a conscious spiritual path for nearly 20 years or so and currently continue to sit in meditation and contemplation every morning. I am aware of non-duality teachings and have attended retreats with several awakened teachers. I'm a seeker at a point of ceaselessly seeking which in some way equals non-seeking. I realize seeking is what blocks awakening, but very hard for the false self to let it all go. I have had some experiences of awakening but that is all they have been; experiences...impermanent.

I've been into nutrition and health living most of my adult life. I had a huge organic garden 40 years ago in Maine; have been taking nutritional supplements for that long also (don't forget that A, E ,and C are very important anti-oxidants). I eat healthy, but not vegetarian...doesn't work for me, shop in the health foods stores and even worked in one for awhile.

I've been interested in politics my entire life, even as a child. My folks thought I would become a politician, but I'm too honest...they'd kill me.

I also read a lot of crime/mystery books...about all I can read at the moment for some reason. Lots of good stuff out there..Denise Mina, Timothy Hallinan, Jo Nesbo, CJ Box, Louise Penny, Jeffery Deaver, Lars Kepl, Stephen White are some of the more recent ones.

Hmmm, guess that is it for now...oh, I used to live on an island so I miss the ocean and take a drive to visit it at least once a year. The mountains are beautiful, but the ocean has my soul.

Having fun is half the

Having fun is half the battle.

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

silent lucidity

People cried the world is gonna end 200 years ago. They will 200 from now. I just want to laugh and enjoy what's left of my life. Our politics today remind me of a Stooges episode: "We want peace, we want peace". Yeah you want "A piece of this and a piece of that"! I turn wrenches for a living...26 years. Once I leave work, Sgt. Schultz "I know nothing". The only other 2 hard working guys in the shop and I talk about food and what beer from what micro-brewery we haven't tried! I waited a long time to meet my soul mate, she reminds me why we exist. I'll leave the turmoil to the turgid waters. Stir as you will, stir as you may, you can stir all day, still troubled waters....

MSM repeater?

First, I need to thank you from the bottom of my heart for creating this place. I NEED my DP time. Michael, I come here several times each day to find out what's REALLY going on in the world! If something here is regurgitated from the MSM, it is almost always vetted 7-ways-from-Sunday in a matter of an hour or so!! And that's the beauty of the DP...a gathering of insightful and curious people capable of critical thought. The folks here don't blindly accept what's been handed to them. I frequently see the quote: Video or it didn't happen. We are just what our government doesn't want roaming the streets of Amerika...and I, for one, am damned proud to be a small part of this ensemble. I don't always agree with them and they don't always agree with me, and that's OK! Because, if it weren't for you and the good people here on DailyPaul, I wouldn't have figured out what's truly important to our Republic and who our true enemies are...I would still be hooked into the BS game of 2 parties, evil muslims that want to kill us all because we're "free", and believe what I'm told on the "news".
What else is there, you ask...well, I'm a car nut (used to race professionally and as amature), pianist, guitarist, gardener, beginner-bee keeper. Love being outside in peace and quiet!
Rand? This jury is still out.
Again, Michael...thank you!

Silence isn't always golden....sometimes it's yellow.

"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry

I depend on DPers to fill in where my personal knowledge fails.

Spontaneous order wins the day as we give each other a hand.

People do come and have been coming for years.

Is the Daily Paul the gift of free men to each other? Not unlike the Continental Congress of 1774 when folks gathered to explore the governance of free men.

I'm glad Michael did build the 'Ark' and grab the rudder.

Free includes debt-free!


I live in Nebraska and i have had the opportunity over the past few years to travel most of the United States. My friend and I jumped into his car and traveled to Washington state via I-90. We made it two days. And yes we did get pulled over in South Dakota.(114 in a 65 no ticket) Going through South Dakota, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho and Washington. The badlands and northern rockies was a welcome change of scenery for someone who is constantly surrounded by cornfields. Tne northern pacific is beautiful. Seattle was a blast and the seafood was way better than anything Nebraska could hope to have, although thier corn needed work. I hopped on a plane and got laid over for ten hours in Salt Lake City. There i got so bored i just started talking to everone. I met so many different people in such a short amount of time i still cant believe i did that. I got home to my flatland, cornfield, Nebraska and reflected about the journey.It was an awsome trip but it was good to be home. Then one day we did the same thing but headed east. Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Mishigan, Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Georgia. We made it in three days. We saw 2 NHL games (Go Redwings) partied in Detroit, Nashville, Atlanta. Disc Golfed at the PDGA course in Georgia, and had shrimp and grits in a crab butter sauce that Nebraska cant touch although thier corn needed work:). Then i got on a plane and came home. Looking at the cornfields, getting that good to be home feeling, i thought "damn that was fun, and holy cow what a big beutiful country filled with wonderful interesting people. I did all that in 5 days. So be bold and get out there. You never know who your going to meet. And as always, Peace Gold and Liberty -Dave

That sounds like a blast!

Good for you! Reminds me of this:


Is this why I love the DailyPaul?

I too look into the mirror and question my identity. Who am I? How did I get here? How can I be better? What can I change to improve? Have I done enough for the lives I have created? What more can I do? Can I look forward and not behind?

I too wonder where do I go from here. Am I on the path to where I want to be? Deep down, do I realize I will never actually reach a destination since doing so would only leave me stranded?

To be fair, I accept the perception I have of me, differs in the eyes of others.

I love watching the DP change and grow like a child... lots of times it's just daily life- business as usual... it's those occasional, priceless, mind blowing moments that that make it all worthwhile!

Maybe, it's the rare occasions of humans... actually acting humane, that draws me here.

And you may find yourself... the father of the DailyPaul... :)



This is where I get my news as well, and I'm proud to be part of this
community. Such great discussions, such great resources, and people.

I read a link on here about a year ago, my perception of that article is this:

Non participation is the best form or contribution, or not there of, to our cause.

Lead by example, live free, or as free as you can. Become more self reliant, and less dependent on the government.

People believe what they want to believe. And there is enough MSM out there for people to back up what ever stance they have about anything.

Knowledge speaks, wisdom listens.

I've tried spreading the message of freedom and liberty to no avail.
The results where simply frustration. After reflecting on the results I decided a few things.

1. I should educate myself more, and become more articulate.

2. Lead by example, now people come to me and ask what I think, and I have found that they are more open to what I have to say.

3. I plan on enjoying the rest of my time here on earth in the flesh I live in, right here in my community. No Retreat.

4. Don't let fear overcome your Hope. Hope, not in the world, but within ourselves.

5. Michael is the Man, thanks for allowing me to join this community, the discussions, and all the learning opportunities this website has to offer. Thank You Michael.

Liberty Peace and Prosperity Amen

The passengers on this ark are my filter

I turned off the TV more than 5 years ago. Believe it or not this is my place to become informed, and I feel very well informed, thank you very much.
This song plays in my mind quite often:
"I'd love to change the world, but I don't know what to do, so I leave it up to you."

The good doctor often speaks about how each of us must find our own way to contribute. For me, for now, I make sure my kids (my son is 18, my daughter 12) are awake and aware of the true problems in the world.
BTW, Mr. "smudgepot's" post about the impending wave made for good reading and discussion for my daughter and I last night.
What else to say: "Teach your children well"

Ron Paul is A Man For All Seasons

Teach Spartans to knit?

My guess is that a lot of us came together to save the Republic and maybe change the rest of the world through our example. You put all these Spartans together to save their country and then say that Leonidas is dead, let's just discuss gardening.
That will be a tough sell to some.
Besides, Leonidas is still with us and still advising. Hope is not dead and there are a lot of people with that idea in common here.
I get what you are saying, but when you put enough enriched uranium together, you may not be able to control the reaction.

Damn fine post, grazie.

Damn fine post, grazie.

10-15 million more voters need to believe in non-interventionism (liberty) at home and abroad to change America. Minds changed on Syria. Minds changing on privacy. "Printing money" is part of the dialogue. Win minds through focus, strategy.

If you don't support rand ...

You are supporting Hilary

If you vote

in a rigged election then your contributing to the problem by giving your consent to this murderous and vile government entity.

Just yesterday I was fortunate to attend a day long presentation by Retired Major General John Furlow concerning counter intelligence and the techniques that he taught and helped to develop in the military to effect more change in government used around the world.

I don't entirely agree with the man and his views, he is a self proclaimed "Spiritual Warrior" in a "Spiritual War".

The point that he made yesterday goes along with this BS over Rand. He said that the government at the Federal level is insignificant. That concentrating on that level only takes time, energy, and resources away from insuring that good Constitutionally minded candidates get elected locally where the real power and authority is at.

Now is he, Gen Furlow, going around saying this to deceive the people since he is obviously targeting the Christian Right and wanting to restore the country to a "Christian Nation" in his mind.

Knowing that he is die hard when it comes to the religious war he thinks he has been waging as a Army General and now seeking local government office to continue that fight.


Considering that he was directly involved with counter insurgency in Iraq, Afghanistan, and many other countries. He is not lying when he says he thinks the only way we will win this Nation back from the Corporations, the Zionist "Jews" in Israel and Washington, the "Left Wing Liberals", and the "Right Wing Neo-cons" is through LOCAL ELECTIONS.

He certainly knows his stuff and exactly what he is doing to push his own agenda Religiously.

Presidents can do what ever they want to do in DC in regard to laws and executive orders, BUT it is the local governments that are responsible for enforcing them.

Forget about RAND and the clowns in Congress in DC! The fight is right in your own back yard. Remember the POWER starts with the PEOPLE, then the State, then finally the Federal.

I agree with Micheal that I'm just watching the Rand hype, and I refuse to participate in any more corrupted and rigged elections at that level. I'm too worried that these "Right Wing Christian Radicals" right here at home will take over and start their Holy Civil War.

"Winning hearts and minds to win the Revolution before they can start their civil war."

You Can't Always Get What You Want

When I was a little kid I opened the ISU wrestling room door on Saturday mornings for Dan Gable in Ames, IA. The 1st time I watched Gable the match lasted 10 seconds before Gable broke the guys leg. My 1st thought was - what a waist of 25 cents. This is not fair.

Dan Gable said, "Gold medals aren't really made of gold. They're made of sweat, determination, and a hard-to-find alloy called guts."

The Russians knew Dan Gable was not kind or gentle.



"Has Rand said anything about Obama bombing Iraq? I don't even have to check to know what Ron thinks of that."

Fountain Pens

I have recently attained a fascination of fountain pens... and it has become an occasional source of frustration in turn. Any fountain pen veterans able to offer a few words of advice to an ink-stained greenhorn?

In particular, I have been using Lamy brand fountain pens. At the time I bought my first fountain pen, a white Lamy Safari with a medium nib, I was impressed with the high rating on Amazon and somewhat economical price. I doubled down on the Lamy brand when I scored a stash of extra ink cartridges at a local thrift store. As an aside, I would not argue against anyone who thinks paying more than $5 on a pen is indulging in vain opulence. Although if you think about what it takes to make a pencil, maybe two sawbucks for a pen is not too much. What I like about fountain pens in general is the novelty of using a writing instrument that is rarely seen used in public. I also like the uniqueness of the occasional ink saturation blots when starting or ending a pen stroke or train of thought. I think it accentuates the overall personality of a handwritten note.

Sometimes, when I leave a pen dormant for days or weeks I find I have a hard time rejuvenating the pen with a quick rinse under the faucet tap. I wonder if I have to thoroughly clean the nib every time... I hate to think the problem is because I have just a $20 fountain pen and not the $200 darling sibling. What is the best way to take care of a fountain pen and maximize its efficacy and enjoyment potential?

Lamy Safari pen, white, medium nib

Like minded

Dear Michael,

It is wonderful to read these little comments. They are very genuine and sincere. The world has become very hostile. I like coming here to read the sensible comments of your members.

The world seems to be spinning more out of control. We are in very different times or maybe we just have more availability to see more of the world . I know that I make a difference everyday to the folks I have good conversations with. As far a the big picture. I think time will handle that. If man doesn't wake up soon. Mother nature will slap us into a new paradigm.

It's great to see more people realizing that the government is not here to save anyone except the government. The system to top heavy. It needs to be culled. They must layoff at least 50%. I know this will only happen if the money being taken from us and the printing press is stopped. I guess it's wishful thinking.

Thanks again for this venue to share ones ideas and thoughts.

Your comrade in words,

Republic Man

I come here

To educate myself on and discuss current events, and to restore my faith in humanity.

Rand. Hmm... I think I am more inclined to trust him because he is the son of Ron Paul. I haven't decided yet. I'd hate to see him run an honest campaign, win, and then sink the ship mid-presidency. Then what? People would say "Well, I guess the libertarian way doesn't work. Those kooky Ron Paulers were wrong after all." When I voted for Ron, I had 100% faith and trust in him. I can't say the same for his son.

As for me.... I have kind of an odd mixture of interests. I love wildlife. I love nature. My 9 pound, 16 year old, blind and deaf Jack Russel Terrier is my absolute best friend in the world. I'm a total gearhead, drift junkie, and toyota truck fanatic. I play guitar, mostly blues, but I've been on a classical & ragtime kick for the past year or so. Other than that I like to hike and explore the woods, camp, take photographs, and I have a strange obsession with old and/or abandoned buildings, historical landmarks, and monoliths/stone structures.

“Don’t be in a hurry to condemn because he doesn’t do what you do or think as you think or as fast. There was a time when you didn’t know what you know today.” -Malcolm X

Your old dog (friend) reminds

Your old dog (friend) reminds me of our family “weenie” dog named Frankie. He was the same age and was both blind and deaf. He was killed by a car, that was a sad day for sure.
You have some great interests, ever heard of “Standing Stone” in Huntingdon PA.?
With regard to Rand and Ron, I have to believe in Rand because I have faith in Ron. During the interview with C-span, Ron in his masterful way, sent a message to those who would listen. He said that he and Rand agree on 99% of the issues. I have faith in Ron Paul.


In the story of the Ark

In the story of the Ark, to my remembering, Noah had to wait a long time from the flood came, to the return of the olive branch.

This old Arabic wisdom has stayed with me for as long as I can remember: If you never invite strangers into your house, you will never have angels visiting.

(+ According to The one-and-only-Smudge-Pot, we are still waiting for the flood...)

Maybe its your time to relax, and watch the things unfold. Maybe you have other plans. Maybe none of us know yet, though many of us may feel it in different ways.

I see this site as a part of the much larger internet-thingy going on. We are hard wiring the human psyche, in words and language. This is much needed, and we stand to benefit, in the long run. But we need the pay attention to the details, and to the language, do we want to be hard wired with love or with hate?

What else? just a whole lot of love, we are going to need it!

Dailypaulers are the alchemical GOLD, transmutating the world around them, into the universal panacea! The Daily Paul then, is the alchemical vessel.

PS. No revolution without great music!

Please, pay close attention to the words used throughout:

And the intro, what are the words that are not said, but implied?

Its from the French national anthem La Marseillaise, and the text that goes with those tones are:

"Allons enfants de la Patrie,
Le jour de gloire est arrivé!"

"Arise, children of the land,
the day of glory has arrived!"

Love... Love... Love... Nothing you can do that can't be done. ...

Powerful stuff!

Dailypaulers are the alchemical GOLD, transmutating the world around them, into the universal panacea! The Daily Paul then, is the alchemical vessel.