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Laura Ingraham questions necon orthodoxy "Iraq is worse off"

Laura Ingraham just walked off the neocon reservation. Remember how she made fun of Ron Paul back in 2007? Welcome home, Laura!

"...I think we try to do all these things in Iraq. Now Iraq is worse off. I mean, I hate to say that, but Iraq is worse than before we went into Iraq. Christians are gone. There’s no sense of order at all. Saddam Hussein is gone. That’s a good thing, but what’s left? A more emboldened Islamic state. Not contained apparently even by U.S. air strikes."


http://youtu.be/k3N7fFu7jMA

Watch her make fun of Ron Paul back in '07:
http://iroots.org/2014/08/11/laura-ingraham-youve-come-a-lon...

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In fact, she makes the best confused Orwellian arguments for...

... the very game the Neocons have had in mind all along! That is the partitioning up of all the middle east into miniature sections controlled by the various energy corporations and banks, through their time tested mechanism of communist/fake religion fanatical dictators. These puppet tyrants really get their funds from the FED through these corporations.

To this end, the talking blond speaks the Orwellian concepts of 'no solution', chaos, caught... all leading to the dialectical solution already planned by the CFR!

See: Angola... where Shell oil kept in food and clothes a Cuban Communist army of over 35,000, to keep control over the freedom fighters headed up by Jonas Savimba... the Christian patriot doctor... who we eventually betrayed and had assassinated! Of course Shell was raping the resources of oil and diamonds, and may still be today!

That is the future of the newest and most modern era serf state being planned for Africa also. The get on the bandwagon oath breakers in Congress are already holding 'committee meetings' to discuss the African agenda! All on schedule. All according to CFR script.

The solution is simple... we need not know anything about the inner workings of conspirators, the machinations of evil congress!

One thing is needful: White-out Congress!

Replace them with 'Write-in Liberty'!

Choose folks who know the simple path of following the constitution, upholding liberty, restoring economic and personal freedom!

The rest will fall into place, including the trials, the prosecutions, the sentences and restorations!

Nonsense!! She is a student of the dialectic...

As is discussed so cogently below, you are not hearing the REAL message she is spewing, the message of erstwhile bad Hussein (we installed), that it was good to take him out, now it is going bad (of course Obama), that we need more troops and boots on the ground, more occupation, more division...

It is called two steps back, which sucks you into her malaise of her fake neocon love, then three steps forward once a liberty Paul candidate announces for the nomination!

Never forget...

Unless, and until she apologizes for her idiocy, ignorance, and support of death through interventionism, theft through the FED, and tyranny in big, albeit Republican, government, she will spout and facilitate more and more of the same evil with which we have been cursed by past administrations!!

Wow! lesson learned!

lesson: not all retards read from scripts

A true flower can not blossom without sunlight and a true man can not live without love.

Heh

ALL the radio talk show hosts have been speaking bitterly of GOP failure and infighting since 2012--coinciding with the assassination of Dr. Paul by his own party at Tampa when he was stripped of his delegates.

Of course, they didn't care or express outrage when this happened to Dr. Paul. But they failed to see that it was going to be SOP within the GOP for all the remaining conservatives, something Dr. Paul had stated back in 2008 when he said the GOP had lost its way.

So now Levin, Hannity, Ingram and Beck all flounder about, many expressing many of the same critiques and concerns Dr. Paul did, without acknowledging him. But they will never,ever let go of their Neocon philosophy that American should be the policeman of the world, and employ excessive force to maintain our so-called leadership potion in the world.

Ingram needs alot to repent for. I remember when she feted John Yoo on her show, the guy who gave legal justification for enhanced., interrogation---Oh, how she swooned over him, and applauded his efforts to make torture legal!

Conscience does not exist if not exercised

"No matter how cynical you get, it's impossible to keep up!
---Lily Tomlin

Syria

Like it or not the British parliament saved us from Syria. They actually had a war resolution on the floor and voted no. Then, some people back here, with a brain, decided, well, if we're going to go in there alone, I guess we should do that "vote" thing to and send it to Congress. Rather than completely embarrass the president with a no vote to a war resolution, they sat on it. Obama jumped the shark on Iraq. The entire reason anyone even voted for him was this "change" stuff, but most intelligent people voted because he was withdrawing all combat troops out as a matter of policy. There's still a residual force of 50,000 troops that will likely be there forever. So when they say all combat troops have left Iraq, HEY, there's still FIFTY THOUSAND soldiers over there. Sorry, but these latest actions in Iraq, whether pressed by the DNC or the military industrial complex, show that Obama is totally willing to fold on the one issue that probably got him the nomination over Clinton.

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She is fretting about the unintended consequences of blowback.

What does she think will happen when the pot gets stirred? She still hasn't met a war that she didn't like. She likes empire building and the US being the global policemen of the world. She still likes war way too much.

Maybe....

....she is giving Obama "right cover," stifling opposition to "boots on the ground."

MS. Graham, senator of the fine (but not too bright) State of South Carolina, just came out with his warmongering rhetoric......

Stay on your toes, boys and girls.

A little late now.....

Only idiots listen to these chameleons.

Ingraham and Beck both promoted Dave Brat heavily

Ingraham actively campaigned for him.

Why reject the help?

Focus on scum like Bill Kristol, Charles Krauthammer, Anne Coulter, The Washington Free Beacon, Daniel Pipes, David Frum and the rest of the neo-con garbage.

Never directly link to their crap, and bad mouth them at every opportunity.

No one attacked Ron Paul and Liberty more than this bunch of sewer rats.

Have to agree about dave brat, and rand...

She is very tough on immigration too...I think she is evolving...

My sister listens to Laura...

My sister listens to Laura & Glenn Beck, but she will not listen to me talk about Liberty or Ron Paul. She just laughs at me like I am so confused, but I keep saying little things... Can't get through to everyone! But maybe (hopefully) over time! Like Ron Paul says "They can't unhear it, keep talking. The worst thing to do is stop talking."

& I don't care if people think I'm crazy ;-)

Ingraham is PUSHING Neocon Policy here -- OBSERVE:

Laura does a fair bit of deceptive trickery in just 2 minutes. She puts out some half-truths to lull the audience into thinking she is on their side, then she pushes them in the direction of how she wants them to think.

It's pure COINTELPRO.
You gotta look closely at the words & message. Let's break it down.

Get the People on Her Side:

"The American people have no appetite for war."
"The American people didn't want us to go in[to Syria]. The British people didn't want us to go in."
"Peopl are...'What are we gonna do? What are we gonna accomplish?'"

So now she has spoken partial truth: Americans don't want more war - so now sheeple agree with her before she leads them to the slaughter with her 3 True Messages she wants Sheeple to Adopt:

3 Messages NeoCon Laura is pushing:

1) General Fear of the Middle East

"Iraq may fall if there are no boots on the ground."
"That empowers ISIL."
ISIL is dangerous and can deal "DEVASTATION".
"There's no sense of order."

2) She makes a Christian Call to Arms

"3 million Christians ... are in desperate need of help."
"Christians have been suffering."
"I think -as Bush- we haven't done enough to protect [them]."
"Christians are gone."(read: victimized & wiped out)

3) Muslim-Fear, Encouragement of "Islamophobia"

"Al Qaeda is turning into 'The Islamic State'."
"An Islamic State is left [in control]...not contained."

Finally she gives us the message that she wants us to send troops into Iraq:

"An Islamic State is left...not contained. Apparently not even by US Air Strikes."
(Read: Air Strikes are NOT ENOUGH MILITARY ACTION IN IRAQ.)

This wasn't a contradiction of NeoCon Policy -- this was a Manipulative way of PUSHING it. Remember, these people are lawyers - trained in Manipulation, not ethical adherence to Law. You can't go to sleep with FOX News, you have to be extra alert to the message & the emotion they push.

Remember, the video "September Clues" taught us in-depth that there were No Planes used on that fateful September Morning. No planes means no Muslim Terrorists to be afraid of. Fear of Islam is irrational. There are many bad people oppressing many innocent people all over the world - the focus is on the Middle East for a reason - THEIR reason. THEIR agenda.

Stay vigilant my friends.

"If you always lean on your master, you will never be able to proceed without him." - Jefferson to his daughter Martha. March 1787

You may be on to something

since she was so condescending to Ron Paul years back so I don't trust her. Also, her 3 million Christians in Iraq number is grossly exaggerated since before the Iraqi war it was 1.5 million max and the estimates are 200,000 - 400,000 now.

Hold on before we claim she's a secret agent

She does say, "And I'm not saying I want them there (troops on the ground)."

You know, not everything is cointelpro. Many of these people are just so invested in the establishment for the last 25 years that they can't even recognize other views. I actually think that Ron Paul shook her up a bit back in 07 if you listen to that clip.

Check out http://iroots.org/
"If you’re into political activism, at least for Ron Paul if not for anyone else, I strongly recommend spending some time with iroots.org." - Tom Woods

Please do not Straw-Man Me.

A. I didn't say or imply she is a 'secret agent.' Don't misrepresent what I said. I said IT (as in, her method of communication) follows the same manipulative pattern as COINTELPRO.

Infiltrate then Misdirect.

B. You're interpreting meaning rather than letting her words mean ONLY what they say - which is what Legalese is all about.

Yes, she says to the audience: "I'm not saying that I want them there."

That is legalese which translates to:

"I'm not using the explicit words, 'I want troops in Iraq.'"

I agree she's not using those words. She's using DIFFERENT WORDS which carry that same MEANING. She didn't say she wants troops in Iraq explicitly. She said it manipulatively, and I exposed how.

Treat these people as LAWYERS.
You don't get a job in Media unless you're an advanced player in the game of Manipulation.

Or do you actually believe these people who told you hollow, aluminum planes punched holes through 50 columns of reinforced steel ?

Again, Stay Vigilant.
And also, like Ron Paul, Stay in a Good Mood.
Cheers.

"If you always lean on your master, you will never be able to proceed without him." - Jefferson to his daughter Martha. March 1787

Yes...

And Laura was one of the biggest cheerleaders for the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq.

Laura mocked Ron Paul when he explained to her why the invasion would fail and produce blowback.

Now Laura has changed her tune? I am not buying it. What has changed? Bush has gone and Obomba is charge. I guarantee you, that if Bush or Rmoney were Prez right now, Laura would be defending the NeoCon intervention to the hilt.

Ain't foolin me Laura.

I'll believe Laura when....

she does a "mea culpa" to Ron Paul personally and apologizes to him and his supporters for her treatment of him.

Minnesota Mary

Thank you

The DP has a LONG memory !!!

Life is a sexually transmitted disease with a 100% fatality rate.
Don't Give me Liberty, I'll get up and get it myself!

This is from 07

I still believe we should reward good ideas--even late ones--in the market place of ideas.

http://youtu.be/CU4FE67rfBY

Check out http://iroots.org/
"If you’re into political activism, at least for Ron Paul if not for anyone else, I strongly recommend spending some time with iroots.org." - Tom Woods

Was walking out the door when that came on, I had to stop

and watch to see which side she would take. She shocked the h*ll out of me when she defended Rand on O'Reilly's show. What a difference a couple of years makes.

Want to add a statement by Eric Bolling: "There's never been a war John McCain didn't like"

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know Peace." - Jimi Hendrix

Eric Bolling...

Eric Bolling seems to be a solid Libertarian. I'm Really starting to like that guy.