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Is the USA a Republic or a Democracy?

In a Democracy, the sovereignty is in the whole body of the free citizens. The sovereignty is not divided to smaller units such as individual citizens. To solve a problem, only the whole body politic is authorized to act. Also, being citizens, individuals have duties and obligations to the government. The government's only obligations to the citizens are those legislatively pre-defined for it by the whole body politic.
In a Republic, the sovereignty resides in the people themselves, whether one or many. In a Republic, one may act on his own or through his representatives as he chooses to solve a problem. Further, the people have no obligation to the government; instead, the government being hired by the people, is obliged to its owner, the people.
The people own the government agencies. The government agencies own the citizens. In the United States we have a three-tiered cast system consisting of people ---> government agencies ---> and citizens.
The people did "ordain and establish this Constitution," not for themselves, but "for the United States of America." In delegating powers to the government agencies the people gave up none of their own. (See Preamble of U.S. Constitution). This adoption of this concept is why the U.S. has been called the "Great Experiment in self government." The People govern themselves, while their agents (government agencies) perform tasks listed in the Preamble for the benefit of the People. The experiment is to answer the question, "Can self-governing people coexist and prevail over government agencies that have no authority over the People?"
The citizens of the United States are totally subject to the laws of the United States (See 14th Amendment of U.S. Constitution). NOTE: U.S. citizenship did not exist until July 28, 1868.
Actually, the United States is a mixture of the two systems of government (Republican under Common Law, and democratic under statutory law). The People enjoy their God-given natural rights in the Republic. In a democracy, the Citizens enjoy only government granted privileges (also known as civil rights).
There was a great political division between two major philosophers, Hobbes and Locke. Hobbes was on the side of government. He believed that sovereignty was vested in the state. Locke was on the side of the People. He believed that the fountain of sovereignty was the People of the state. Statists prefer Hobbes. Populists choose Locke. In California, the Government Code sides with Locke. Sections 11120 and 54950 both say, "The people of this State do not yield their sovereignty to the agencies which serve them." The preambles of the U.S. and California Constitutions also affirm the choice of Locke by the People.
It is my hope that the U.S. will always remain a Republic, because I value individual freedom.
Thomas Jefferson said that liberty and ignorance cannot coexist.* Will you help to preserve minority rights by fulfilling the promise in the Pledge of Allegiance to support the Republic? Will you help by raising public awareness of the difference between the Republic and a democracy?

Sources: opinion, http://www.chrononhotonthologos.com/lawnotes/repvsdem.htm



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I think it's

Like Plato's alligory of the cave. The people on the bridge are walking around in a republic, while the poor souls chain to the wall are trapped in a democracy. Then when you move out of the cave it was all an illusion anyways lol

The original intent was for a Constitutional Republic.

Of course everyone here on DP knows that. Don't they?

To quote Benjamin Franklin: A democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for lunch. In a Republic, the sheep would have a gun.

This has been discussed a thousand times

We are no longer either. We are an Oligarchy currently which is peddling itself as a democracy with it roots intended to be as a constructed republic.

The US is neither a Republic or a Democracy

The US and the States are a cesspool of crime, corruption and lawless tyrants with colorable claims of being 'government'. There is no government anymore because no one will bind themselves to lawful activities.

The US is history.

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I think it is fair to say that the USA operates as a Democracy but it was founded on the principles of a Republic. The founders did not want the will of the majority to infringe on the natural rights of the individuals; that continually happens today. For those who have a hard time grasping the differences I use the analogy that if you have 10 people in the room and they hold a vote to commit suicide and 6 people vote in favor, in a Democracy 10 die and in a Republic just the 6 in favor die. Realistically you can just use a mandate for healthcare where the majority decided that everyone must pay for healthcare whether the minority wants it or not. If you believe in rigged elections, you can manipulate everything for a "sovereign" nation if you can just count the votes. That reason alone is why I don't think we should spend so much money spreading Democracy around the globe but the rewards for the elite are just too good to pass up.