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Humans Need Not Apply- The Future of Work

A fascinating review of where we are.

http://youtu.be/7Pq-S557XQU



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He must have read my post!

About a year ago I did a post about much the same thing (not nearly as thoroughly as he treats the subject of course) http://www.dailypaul.com/290395/long-term-flaw-in-the-econom...

I was looking for input as to how free market economics would address this. None of the answers were satisfactory (CGP Grey actually addresses them in the vid).

I don't think compulsion is the "solution", but at the same time, I think that voluntary exchange only works when people have something to contribute and the march of automation is making more and more people have little to nothing to offer the market (unless they can start selling organs). If the economy doesn't collapse because of the gov't and the Fed alone, then automation might be the other factor to push it over the edge.

(I am aware he almost certainly did not read my post btw, it was just for flavor)

"Sometimes it is said that man cannot be trusted with the government of himself. Can he, then, be trusted with the government of others? Or have we found angels in the forms of kings to govern him?" -Thomas Jefferson

The lay's misunderstanding of economics enslaves themselves

Maxter and his pals aren't smarter and their "smartness," their ability, isn't why they're replacing humans in jobs. Maxter and his pals are replacing humans because the humans who own the companies replacing humans are adjusting expenditures to buy and sell another day.

What this replacement is from is what evil is from: economic centralization, which is why comprehending what money is is paramount in importance if attaining freedom is sought. If money is miscomprehended, it's because comprehending (read: psychology about) one's self and, because so, mankind is wrong. Note: Don't be fooled by false decentralization, whose primary modus operandi are nontangible currency and tangible currency recorded (particularly when its publicized, an occurrence that can come from apparent benevolence which produces what malevolence would, fear and control.).

Concerning the wrong, either it is done accidentally, from which likely action opposite can be done, that is, from which likely a remedy can happen. Or the wrong is deliberate, where likely nothing can counter the wrong, the wrong will not be made right, hence evil -- unless who acted deliberately had no choice, a sign that his or her life is at stake, pushing him to choose the greater good (read: in favor of the majority), a hallmark of centralization.

That hallmark: contradiction.

The "greater good" contradiction makes sense to choose in the short run but works against everyone in the long run.

School's fine. Just don't let it get in the way of thinking. -Me

Study nature, not books. -Walton Forest Dutton, MD, in his 1916 book whose subject is origin (therefore what all healing methods involve and count on), simple and powerful.

I'm all for it...

Honestly. If "normal life" can be sustained without the rat race of a 9 to 5 company job and slave wages, more power to us.

Food, labor, resources, all available without human sweat? Sounds good to me.

I think this NYT article is relevant to post here

I'll comment more directly later. People such as some of those who've commented below are in denial - equating the current evolving situation with "industrialization."

Nonetheless, my comment here *is* related, if indirectly: there is the issue of there coming a time when humans will be rendered unnecessary to do the work needing to be done (the gist of the post). But there is ALSO the situation right now, a harbinger of things to come, where human beings are treated by corporations as if mere bodies, physical beings on the order of animals, or maybe not even, beings whose humanity is totally disregarded.

When I started in the corporate world, the clients' budgets (that eventually funded our salaries) were adjusted on a quarterly basis. I used to rue such "short term" thinking. If sales were down, budgets were cut, and that meant providing less support (when perhaps needed most!), whereas if sales were up, budgets went up, and that meant providing more support (although sales showed it was *not* as necessary). It seemed odd to me, but the point here is that I thought quarterly sales/budget adjustments represented short-term thinking. Hah!

Today (aside from the fact that so many national corporations limit their staff to part-time workers to begin with, so as not to have to provide certain benefits, meaning scheduling them up to maybe 36, or in cases 39, hours per week) - THANKS TO THE WONDERS OF TECHNOLOGY - sales are now analyzed almost instantaneously. This means that people's SHIFTS, that is, people's livelihoods needed to provide food, clothing, and shelter for themselves and their children - are ALSO adjusted on a REALLY short time frame - in terms of NO. OF HOURS and also the TIMING of the shifts. These adjustment can, and are, now made within the time frame of A WEEK... and less.

Aside from the unpredictability of total WAGES per week, the unpredictability of SCHEDULES is wreaking HAVOC on peoples' lives - MILLIONS of people's lives across the country. There isn't just a negative effect on the (mostly) women involved, but also their children.

What a sorry state this country is in. Not that it's just this country. These are global corporations. Such a lack of values. Such a lack of humanity.

Working Anything but 9 to 5: Scheduling Technology Leaves Low-Income Parents With Hours of Chaos

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/08/13/us/starbucks-w...

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

"Maria Trisler is often dismissed early from her shifts at a McD

McDonald’s in Peoria, Ill., when the computers say sales are slow."
Instantaneous efficiency! McDonald's has lots of high-tech company.

Those kinds of stories make me sick, and I personally know of people who deal with this sort of situation. With a glut of workers and the pool of unemployed and underemployed workers likely to only grow larger, and with technology only becoming more fine tuned, I imagine we can expect that corporations will only increasingly treat employees like... dogs. Or perhaps better stated, machines you can just turn on and off with a swtich.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

this presumes that we have destroyed all worker unions

Good luck with that. Getting rid of unions is like getting rid of government at this point. what do you guy say it is, oh yeah, "a fantasy".

... and that's just what this is; a lazy person's wet dream. ;)

I use Blue Wave, but don't expect one of THEIR silly taglines.

Labor unions did a great job keeping auto jobs here, didn't

they? Also farm jobs, and the jobs of mechanics making appliances such as stoves and washing machines and televisions, and the jobs of printers who print up books, and how about the myriad jobs related to the garment industry - from the production of fabrics to finished items of clothing... Did you not listen to this video or read about this issue?

I hope you're luckier than millions of others unemployed or underemployed, those whose industries or jobs are obsolete due to technology and, in part, going overseas. And by the way, companies paying $7.50/hour and/or only hiring part-time workers don't want to hire someone whose last job was a high-paying position, considered overqualified.

But I was wrong to say that I hoped you were "luckier" than those people you obviously consider lazy persons. Unless there's a paradigm shift in thinking, and we come up with some new system that faces the reality of the situation, the "lucky ones" with jobs will be paying the welfare benefits for the rest of us.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

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How did both of you guys find

How did both of you guys find this at the same time?

http://www.dailypaul.com/324309/humans-need-not-apply

Where did you find it?

He's the man.

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Joη's picture

cgp grey's channel?

Wine and song

By emperor's decree: "Henceforth, there shall be wine and song for all."

Until the winemaker dies and the musicians go on strike.

Sure there can...

there has been before.

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