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Just in: Texas Governor Rick Perry Indicted by Grand Jury

A grand jury has handed up an indictment against Gov. Rick Perry in connection with the investigation into an effort to force Travis County District Attorney Rosemary Lehmberg to resign.

At the center of the issue is a complaint about intimidation stemming from Perry’s threat to veto of $3.7 million in state funding to the Public Integrity Unit run by Lehmberg’s office. The threat came after she pleaded guilty to drunk driving and served a 45-day sentence; Perry called on her to step down but she refused to resign her position. Perry then vetoed the funding for the PIU.

A grand jury was called to determine whether or not Perry broke the law when he threatened to veto the funding. As a result they issued indictments on two felony charges: abuse of official capacity and coercion of public servant. If found guilty on the charges, Perry could be sentenced to a maximum 109 years in prison.

http://www.statesman.com/news/news/rick-perry-indicted-for-l...

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I've got three things to say about this...

Ha, they're going to turn this one around on the accusers. Nice to see an indictment but in this case it seems like legal utter nonsense. He's the governor with veto power and bullshit eventually walks.

Rick Perry... oh ya....

that is the guy that thought he could debate Dr. Paul. Remember ? I thought the Republic-rats had banished him. ? I really hope the nation understands political prosecutions, cause that all this can be from my take on it.

Perry's not all bad

Not knowing too much of the particulars other than reading about the story on Ben Swann and looking at the perspective of Remove Rosemary Lehmberg cause mover's Kerry O'Brien on Governor Perry's indictment, I tend to think that this political decision by Perry was motivated by constituents's desire to bring political pressure to bear on Lehmberg to resign for her DWI arrest.

O'Brien elaborates:

I am always for holding people responsible for their actions and that goes equally, if not more so, for our public officials, regardless of party. And, I'm not a Rick Perry fan, and as a non-partisan Republican, have deep problems with many decisions he has made as Texas governor.

With that said, we were all trying to get a delusional alcoholic in a very important public office to do the right thing and resign. We were using whatever tools we had as Ms. Lehmberg forced her undeserved "second chance" on the county and the state. She was ridiculous not to resign.

What I have read suggests that Gov. Perry's veto threat was based on the same principles that were fueling us citizens. He was apparently going to appoint her second-in-command if she resigned. If that's true, that's as low-impact of a transition than I can contemplate, and it sounds more like principle than politics. Either way, his veto statement was correct - she had lost the confidence of the public. If we had a recall option, she would have been gone in a heartbeat.

Whether or not Perry was wrong here, perhaps we can agree that Perry can learn.

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hey Joe, what do you know?

You are confused. Perry is all bad. Texas has more uninsured people than any other state. More than Florida's 4 million. When PROHIBITION hit on 4/1/2014 for health insurance Perry was so STUPID he forgot to warn his own uninsured population that they should get insurance because the ability to purchase health insurance was being TERMINATED.

All Perry can say is "Oops" and that don't cut it. He is too stupid.

Go peddle your love for Perry someplace where they might listen but it won't be here at the DP, sorry.

Taken out of proportion

You're right; i don't know much about Perry except from what i've seen on the debates. A statement like "Perry's not all bad" just means at some point in time I found something that didn't come across as bad... like the other moment in the presidential debates which I cited above.

So to sum up. I don't live in Texas. I don't know much about Perry. And perhaps I am confused. (In that case it's usually better to enlighten than presume). "Perry's not all bad" != (not equal) "Perry's almost perfect" which is still a stretch from "Perry love." It's an old 'shop picture but reminds me of Dr Paul's best moments during the debates.

edit, sarcasm:
Whether or not Perry was wrong here, perhaps we can agree that Perry can learn.

Perry got lucky.

This generated a LOT of press coverage and therefore raises Perry's profile.

These charges are lame. He will beat them but he has already won with the people who have been presented the evidence.

These Travis county liberals have done Perry a grand favor.

Paul will still smoke him but Perry just got a huge boost off of this.

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Governor Oops can't get a boost.

Perry is done, period.

I agree.

I'm not a Rick Perry fan but agree this has helped him in the long run. It shows him "fighting corruption" and expecting high standards for people in power. I think this is a little payback for him standing up to Obama on the illegal alien tidal wave.
The DUI charge against this DA wasn't a big national issue before, but it is now. This shows Perry as someone that expects integrity in office. This should give him a lot of notoriety on a national level.

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Governor Oops Can't Get a Boost

Sorry

Well, there may or may not be a snag in all this.

I don't care for the Gov. at all, but some say he was following the state constitution. Others say he broke it.

I need to read up on my state constitution.

Was listening to law professors speak on cable news and some were saying he was in the right and following the State Constitution

THEN...the other law professors were saying he BROKE the Constitution rules.

I have a feeling this is going to go way past the time he leaves office and taken to higher courts.

So Is He Still Running in 2016

This can't be much worse than "oppose".

In the case of Rick perry you

In the case of Rick Perry you can be sure anything he did was done out of stupidity and not a willful criminal act. From his past performances it's obvious the guy is an idiot. I am sure it never even occurred to him that what he was doing in this instance was a criminal act. No intent = No crime. They say ignorance is no excuse, but in this case the guy is so dumb it borders on complete mental incompetence, they really should make an exception.

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Yeah, but in the courts

Not knowing the law isn't an actual legal defense, and that is well established. If not knowing the law were any kind of actual defense, then somebody could murder somebody and claim: "man, I didn't know that was illegal?! I'm innocents!" Rick Perry is usually quite dumb, but he isn't idiot dumb.

From a legal standpoint I

From a legal standpoint I believe ignorance of the law is a perfectly valid defense in most cases today outside of common law crimes. The "no ignorance doctrine" originates from a time when God's simple Ten Commandments were the primary law of the land. Everyone learned these laws from early childhood. Therefore there was no excuse for not knowing these laws and that you were doing something wrong. Today there are so many man made laws nobody knows them all, not even the best legal minds, it's physically impossible. There is not a single person in the USA that isn't breaking some law everyday and the vast majority are not even aware of it. There are just too many laws to keep track of. Therefore I contend "ignorance of the law" in certain cases is, or should be, a valid legal defense. Then there is mental incompetence or insanity. Having listened to Perry run his mouth over the last 8 years I'd say his lawyer should have no problem claiming mental incompetence.

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BS - Perry IS idiot dumb, it's obvious.

Who you jivin' with this Cosmik Debris?

Tell me whom I'm quoting please...

(or badly MISquoting, but...)
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Sounds like House of Cards

Sounds like House of Cards

I was around him enough in SC that I feel I'm qualified to say:

If there were such a crime, Perry should be indicted for "drunk campaigning". @n@

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Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
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"Perry calls felony indictment a farce" & he ought to know!

Perry should know all about farces and especially being one himself.
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A defiant Perry calls felony indictment a ‘farce’
Saturday, Aug. 16, 2014
AUSTIN — Texas Gov. Rick Perry said Saturday that the indictment against him was an “outrageous” abuse of power and vowed to fight it.

“This indictment amounts to nothing more than abuse of power and I cannot and will not allow that to happen,” Perry said at a news conference on Saturday.

Perry spoke a day after a grand jury indicted the Republican on two felony counts of abuse of power for making good on a veto threat. He dismissed the prosecution as a “farce.”

Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/08/16/6047440/perry-felony...

You know what's weird about this whole story?

This isn't the first time one of Perry's enemies has gone down with a DUI. I don't live in Texas, so I don't follow that closely and I can't remember specifics, but I remember reading brief news blurbs from previous stories that left me going, "Whoa, what a bit of luck for Perry! The thorn in his side just fell right out. DUI huh?"

What a petty distraction

The indictment makes him look like a martyr. The lady with the DUI logically should be fired, so if you agree with that then you are forced to "side with Perry". Then liberals will attack you for siding with Rick F'ing Perry. You can't win.

There are 100 crimes he should be tried for, but this is what they come at him with -- to make him look like the victim, the righteous champion of ethical government oversight. Uh huh. After 14 years of criminal rule, as he is on his way out of office... now suddenly "bringing him to justice" is such a high priority? HA.

"The lady with the DUI

"The lady with the DUI logically should be fired"

What's the logic there?

Watch the video of her in custody

and then tell me if this person needs to be heading the Public Integrity Unit.

UPDATE: I've now read more on

UPDATE: I've now read more on the matter. There apparently was already a decision that she need not be removed from her position. A Grand Jury made that determination last year.

About drunk people... Drunk people are drunk. Some get quiet. Some get loud. Some get lewd. Some get belligerent. I've been all of the above. You ever get drunk? I've never been drunk on the job. She wasn't drunk on the job. She wasn't even driving. She was parked in a parking lot. She pled guilty and served her sentence. I imagine the video you refer to is absolutely appalling. I bet she was a total bitch. Was she slurring her speech too? Guess what, that's what drunk people do. Show me a video of her doing that in a courtroom or at her desk.

It's true though. Some public officials carry their chemical addictions to work, directly effecting their job performance.

Seriously lol

I went back and found that I do indeed have "goofball" video of Rick Perry. It's not worth uploading because all that really happens is the mc dude says "and without further ado - Rick Perry..." and you hear something crash and see the mc dude looking down the hall and we wait like 30 seconds on Perry, then the mc dude reannounces "...Governor Rick Perry..." and we wait like 30 more seconds until "Mr. Sunshine" appeared, all terribly, terribly happy. In my "professional opinion" (as a child of the decadent 80s), he was jacked up happy that night prolly on the ole percocet. He's actually fairly charismatic that way. :/

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Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
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Yeah, if ya wanna be charismatic

Percocet is the clear choice over vodka. I finally did catch Rosemary's arrest video. 'Twas nothing remarkable really. I've seen many that were much worse [including my own :D}. She's a spitfire. I bet she's really good at what she does. I'd hate to see her in politics, but routing out corrupt politicians is probably a good place for her. I mentioned up there that she was parked when the cops intervened. I could be wrong about that. That was the impression the NYT article gave. Oh well. No matter.

"Mr. Sunshine" -that's a good nickname for him. He can be my uncle or cousin then. My local musical nickname is Johnnie Sunshine as I was dubbed so a few years back by the local Blues guru.

Johnnie Sunshine -

I can see hear that.

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Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
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Are any of these correct?

1) You wish to not answer my question.

2) You wish to answer my question, but only after I have seen some video that will help me understand your logic after I have watched and you tell me.

3) You can't answer my question, because it is actually beyond logic.

In the case that #2 is in any way close to being remotely accurate, please provide a link to said video.

I don't know if she "needs" to be heading the unit. She already heads the unit, so someone obviously thought she needs to head the unit, those whose job it is to hire someone to head the unit. She didn't just walk off the street willy nilly. The question is does she need to be removed from heading the unit, and if she needs to be removed whose job is it to remove her. Is it Perry's job to remove her?

I hear you john

These Perry lovers are dumb like rocks.

Imagine coming to the DP and trying to tell us that Perry has an IQ!