46 votes

Ron Paul: "Why is the plight of Palestinians never mentioned?"



Trending on the Web

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.

Hamas, Al Qaeda, & ISIS

ARE ALL THE SAME!

1. They are all Foreign.
2. They are all Scary.
3. They all hate us for our freedoms.

'nuf said.

Isn't it hilarious that that's how people ACTUALLY see the world?

Who is this Steve Malzberg?

Who is this Steve Malzberg? Great interview IMHO. Even though he gave counter arguments to Ron Paul -you know, toeing the line for the establishment- he let Paul speak and make his point and not downplaying it what he says. These types of interview is what we need for our cause. I can show this to a friend, say, and be able to point out, "here's your argument and here's Ron's counter. Which do you agree with after seeing both sides, in a non-confrontational manner? So again, I ask - for obvious reasons - who is this Malberg guy? Meantime, I'll look at some of the other videos I see of him from this link...

It is better to look dumb and not be, than to look smart and not be.

sharkhearted's picture

Exactly, brother.

Well said!

Good minds think alike lol.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

"Why is the plight of Palestinians never mentioned?"

That's a rhetorical question... right?

God forgives always. Man forgives sometimes. But Nature never forgives.

sharkhearted's picture

Who the f-ck is this Malzberg dude?

Has he no heart to what is going on with the Palestinian people?

OK maybe...with a name dead giveaway...he doesn't.

(But even AIPAC people...at the end of the day...have a heart...under all that brainwashing and lobbying).

Dr. Paul always does a good job in telling the truth about what is going on in the world, and in Gaza.

But...in this case...he does not go far enough.

That may be the flaw in his legacy.

Hey Dr. Paul: You have awakened many millions on the planet (including me) to the causes of liberty and ending the wars and ending monetized debt. Let's stop talking in circles here and debating with AIPAC disinformation trolls...and CALLING IT LIKE IT REALLY IS:

http://scgnews.com/idf-hamas-human-shield-manual-a-sloppy-fo...

And this:

http://stormcloudsgathering.com/an-honest-israeli-soldier-sp...

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Hey shark? look at my post

Hey shark? look at my post above yours, I think we were both writing our posts at the same time...

It is better to look dumb and not be, than to look smart and not be.

Been on the farm, no internet

It is disheartening to see Israel again or still playing the same games, but heartening to see Ron Paul again or still asking the hard questions.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

Massive state propaganda campaign against Israelis

By its own government to suppress any resistance to government policy:

http://news.yahoo.com/witch-hunt-against-israels-war-critics...

Yet again the story is slight of hand...

the ongoing propaganda that 95% support the war means that ISRAEL'S propaganda is working according to plan. lol... they've succeeded in making millions of Israeli's fearful, but no Israeli's were killed by rockets. The 3 teens were NOT killed by Palestinians or their elected government Hamas. It was a lie. The terror tunnels, or tunnels from terror—orwellian isn't it—are lies. You can't bomb tunnels, that's why Vietnam won. Hello! Anyone awake on the DP???

So, Jungleboogie, it's more propaganda FOR Israel. Israel owns much of the media, and for the right price can buy any story they'd like.

When did common sense become a super power?

LittleWing's picture

Yes, propaganda would have us believe

that the majority in Israel support the occupation and slaughter but there are many individuals and groups that are speaking up against occupation and ethnic cleansing. (I'm sure jungleboogie as well as many here on DP are well aware of the many lies being told)You are absolutely right about the hyped threat of rockets and tunnels being used to cause fear and anger among the citizens of Israel!

But this was very heartening to see:

Tel Aviv 10,000 Israelis protest against occupation!
Was good to see so many turn out in spite of threats and repercussions.

http://972mag.com/10000-protest-in-tel-aviv-for-a-just-peace...

If Wars Can Be Started by Lies, They Can Be Stopped By Truth.

Well there is something ron paul has not touch on

Hamas and the Islamic State: Is there a difference?

The two terrorist organizations share many of the same objectives, such as the establishment of a Muslim caliphate.

http://bit.ly/1pnXDo1
http://bit.ly/1Amw4PY

ron think hamas totally different. Which is not the case..

sharkhearted's picture

Go f yourself

~

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

tell that

to the israelites and see where you will be.

Ron Paul did talk about Hamas in 2009

And how Israel created it to divide the Palestinians who were united under the secular, socialist Yasser Arafat, which is ironic, because Hamas' ideological basis stems from the Muslim Brotherhood! Now of course they're facing blowback, like we did when we supported bin Laden and his terrorist scum, and more recently, armed, directly and indirectly through the Gulf States, radical groups in Syria. Funny how that turned out to be the ISIS of lore!

If we don't learn from history, we are doomed to repeat it.

I am a proud libertarian Muslim.

Here are some awesome Islamic Libertarian links:

http://minaret.org

http://muslims4liberty.com

AND TO GET OFF THE NEOCON DRIVEL ABOUT MUSLIMS: http://loonwatch.com

And the problem is this

It is wrong to say that Israel created hamas for it to be a problem for Israel in gaza.
It is not Israel intention for it to be a military prison over there.
What if it was america or some other country helped also creating hamas?

Just as it is wrong for people to moan and talk about something they don't really know of.

How do you think of the progress going when it comes in ferguson compared to Israel and hamas in gaza?

Israel has no right to defend itself? Over and over?

While We see Israel is defending itself and is doing it exceptionally well.

Yet there is people who seem to be so anti of Israel.

So the people has no right to defend itself in ferguson?
Just as it as in a police state and in obama administrations and the united nations.

You should see what antifed says. That is history right there.
http://www.dailypaul.com/324457/ron-paul-why-is-the-plight-o...

Yes. American foreign policy
Submitted by AntiFed1791 on Sat, 08/16/2014 - 12:42. Permalink

Yes. American foreign policy DID INDEED actively fund and support the radical Islamic element that exists today. Anyone that disputes that fact is just ignorant of history.

sharkhearted's picture

So the people in Ferguson have the right to defend themselves...

So do the people in Israel.

Yet also...ALSO...SO DO THE PEOPLE IN PALESTINE.

Duh. That is so effing obvious even a 3 year old could figure out.

It should apply to all three. End of story.

Please don't conflate Ferguson with Gaza. Bad idea.

Take your AIPAC paid disinfo troll bullshit somewhere else...or better yet take it and shove it where the sun don't shine.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

the people in palestine

chose to get in the way. they have brought this upon themselves. learn your history.
Why don't you and them palestine return to jordanian if you choose to side with them.

Because this is what happened.

Tens of thousands in Jordan celebrate 'Gaza victory'

http://yhoo.it/1ksa9Tz

LittleWing's picture

Congrats, I think you have filled your BINGO Card!

Hasbara BINGO!
http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/hasbarah-bingo.html

How to make the case for Israel and win!
'To the benefit of the many not-very-bright zionist wannabe apologists who read this blog assiduously, I decided to offer a clear and simple method of arguing the case for Israel. This clear and simple method has been distilled from a life spent listening to and reading Zionist propaganda. It is easy to follow and results are guaranteed or your money back.

So don't hesitate! Take advantage NOW of this revolutionary rhetorical system that will make YOU a great apologist for Israel in less time than it takes to shoot a Palestinian toddler in the eye.

Ready? 1..2..3..GO!

When you're done, there will always be dead-enders insisting that abuse of gays in Iran does not justify ethnic cleansing in Palestine. Take a deep breath, and pull the doomsday weapon: You suck!

You're a Jew-hater, Arab-lover, anti-Semite, you're a pinko, a commie, a dreamer, a naive, a self-hater, you have issues, your mother worked for the Nazis, Prince Bandar buys you cookies, you forgot you were responsible for the holocaust, etc'

Congratulations!
You are now ready to
apologize for Israel like a pro.

http://jewssansfrontieres.blogspot.co.uk/2008/07/how-to-make...

Bonus! The Israel Project's Global Language Dictionary by Frank Luntz

http://www.stopdebezetting.com/documents/pdf/090713Hasbara%2...

If Wars Can Be Started by Lies, They Can Be Stopped By Truth.

If you make this a separate post, then people will know they

can just say "Bingo!" in response to that kind of disinformation, instead of getting drawn in to further discussions that serve no purpose, other than the repetition of the propaganda.

Just respond with "Bingo!". Might help. Can't hurt.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

Bingo!

Because association fallacy, logical fallacy, projection, Orwellian, double speak, and plain old "wtf are you saying?" is just too hard for warmongers to understand. "Why did you kill the woman with the gun?" "She was in the way!"

When did common sense become a super power?

deacon's picture

BINGO

Sorry,was my link supposed to point to anything of importance?
d

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

You talkin' to me?

I was talking about this: http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/hasbarah-bingo.html

Maybe you didn't mean me? I'm so confused, I feel like bleaching my grey hair to blonde.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

There is no one else around

So he must be talkin to you.

God I love Taxi Driver

deacon's picture

Yes my friend

I was talking to you,but not at you :)
I was thinking this was backwards day,upside down day,or another day,that didn't make sense(more so than usual.)
The one you commented to had me confused to which day it was.
Now back to research,I have been busy reading links, comments and watching vid's almost nonstop. Thank you very much Nonna for your personal effort
d

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

You got good feedback. I'm really happy about that.

I hope you found the answers you needed to help your daughter. Please keep us posted (on the other post) as to her progress. Prayers continue for you and for your family, deacon.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

LittleWing's picture

He didn't see my comment

which explains it, maybe both links are necessary:

How to make the case for Israel and win!
http://jewssansfrontieres.blogspot.co.uk/2008/07/how-to-make...

Hasbara Bingo
http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/hasbarah-bingo.html

If Wars Can Be Started by Lies, They Can Be Stopped By Truth.

LittleWing's picture

'Prince Bandar buys you cookies!' lol!

Good idea Nonna, just respond with BINGO and provide the link instead of getting sucked into circular, fruitless discussion! Anyone is welcome to use it. I won't make a post of it because I think it would just attract the usual head in sand, synchronized mental and moral gymnastic responses and they give me the 'BibiJeebies' lol!

If Wars Can Be Started by Lies, They Can Be Stopped By Truth.

I'm confused.

Are you saying Israel was right to create Hamas to divide the Palestinian people and weaken their movement? How is that self defense?

If it was not Israel's intention to make Gaza a military prison, why is it that they are prohibited from trading or traveling with the outside world? This only strengthens Hamas and radicalizes the people, who now are out of jobs, don't have access to medical care, and can't repair their own homes. The funny thing is that Hamas, being democratically elected, does not reflect the majority of the people's views, as it only takes 51% to win and not everyone votes, but yet you think Israel should collectively punish all of Gaza for the existence of Hamas?

It's funny because peace won out in Ferguson only when the cops decided to treat the protestors as citizens and not enemy constants. When the police response deescalated, so too did the protests. Why can't the Israeli Government understand that? Even funnier is the fact that the St. Louis police chief that sent the militarized police actually was trained on police tactics in Israel!!

I oppose Hamas 100% and believe that Jews, Christians, Muslims, and for that matter, ALL PEOPLE should be able to live in peace and harmony. I categorically reject both the oppressive Israeli and Palestinian governments however.

And I agree with AntiFed as I stated in my previous response.

I am a proud libertarian Muslim.

Here are some awesome Islamic Libertarian links:

http://minaret.org

http://muslims4liberty.com

AND TO GET OFF THE NEOCON DRIVEL ABOUT MUSLIMS: http://loonwatch.com

Because Israel is not immune.

Because Israel is not immune to international affair. It is likely forced or has international influenced by a superpower preceded country. like america. the united nations. I like that you finally agree that you oppose hamas 100%. So am i.

You can't force people to

You can't force people to live together in peace and harmony. All those groups you mention need their own state or at least total freedom of association wherever they happen to be.