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Report: Dorian Johnson has now admitted that Michael Brown attacked Wilson

More sites picking up the story:

http://therightscoop.com/report-key-witness-dorian-johnson-n...

http://conservativebyte.com/2014/08/bombshell-michael-browns...

No idea how legit this is --

Remember, you saw it and heard it here first. We have heard (from a VERY connected national media source) that Ferguson officer Darren Wilson will be cleared in the shooting of Michael Brown. The key: Dorian Johnson has now admitted that Michael Brown attacked Officer Wilson and attempted to take his gun. OFFICER WILSON WILL NOT BE CHARGED! This is scary. When this news is made official, we all have reason to be concerned about the reaction

http://threepercenternation.com/2014/08/breaking-news-dorian...

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None of this is relevant!

Just ask yourselves one question. If this was the first time we had ever heard of police brutality, or unjustified death by cop, or a cop getting off doing these things without criminal proceedings, would we be this upset about it?

The point I'm trying to make is that the situation in this instance is irrelevant. We would not be rioting if an innocent bystander got shot, as long as we had faith in the system, and that the cop who shot said innocent was going to be prosecuted. I see a deeper hatred and mistrust bubbling to the surface here. It is a direct response to how often this type of thing has happened, and how often it has been swept under the carpet.

This one situation is just the spark that ignited the powder keg which was created every time the cops were put above the law. It is nothing more than a symptom of the disease.

If people had faith that if an innocent was gunned down by an officer, and then that officer would have to answer for his actions, then there would be no riots.

It doesn't matter weather Brown attacked or was fleeing, weather he was a criminal or not. The issue is that people have lost faith in due process when it comes to the police, and believe that they are above the law when these situations occur. Sadly, I would side with them on that issue, based on what I've seen and read.

Whenever you deny a population justice through legal means, they will seek in other ways!

You have been manipulated -- THAT is relevant!

If you consider that you believed the stories in the media and now find out that they are not true - then of course this is relevant.

You cannot claim what is relevant is people's feelings when you just found out that people's feeling were misled and manipulated.

Yes the people have to monitor the police, but excusing violent and threatening behavior - like Brown showed that store owner - is stupid and dishonest.

I'm not shedding tears for Brown or the rioters - they belong in jail.

I'm also not buying the innocent are gunned down propaganda, but I am still keeping my eyes and my camera on the police.

Right

but doesn't it feel like the media is putting us in the hunger games with their incessant betrayal?

on day one this cop shot a kid in the back while fleeing with his hands up after saying "don't shoot."

boy has the story changed. it actually does matter the circumstances because it demonstrates how easily manipulated the populace is and how powerful the media is.

Look at how the media has played this

this is why media outlets went into damage-control mode when the convenience store video was released (against the advice of feds) because the new image of a "violent thief" didn't fit into their reality tv show script. CNN first edited out the incriminating part of the video, then for 2+ days plausibly denied that it was him in the video, and then ran stories like "well, it doesn't matter even if it is him." it does matter because it demonstrates violence and a motive for what might have transpired 10 minutes later. so does anyone believe this is acceptable behavior from the media while riots and looting are happening in the street? no. but they write the narrative, which creates a self-fulfilling prophecy. they even interview people and re-broadcast those who have best regurgitated the media talking points. if you want to be on the evening news, just parrot everything you hear during the interview, and they will plaster you on the national airwaves. step right up to the boon pole, folks. get your 15 minutes of fame while contributing to your grandchildren's slavery.

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"FLASH" "BREAKING" "SPECIAL REPORT"

blah blah blah

Time for the media to get a new play book, my days of speculating are over.

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Mike...

was about to leave for college. And he is about to attack an armed officer? Who he knows has no problem shooting him.

Yea right.

People do all sort of irrational things, especially when

desperate. And he was a teenage boy, which should automatically cast doubt on your assumption that he was rational.

Brown stole cigars, which his family attorney now admits is true. He was being stopped by a police officer. He scuffled with the police officer as evidenced by the medical report of the officer's damaged eye socket. He ran 35 feet away after the scuffle with Wilson which is the testimony of his companion. He was shot from the front, not in the back. There are reports that there have been a dozen witnessed which back up Wilson's claim that Brown turned and bun rushed him.

I can imagine Brown being desperate, thinking he was caught for his robbery, and making a very irrational decision to get out of the mess he created for himself.

As far as him going off to college, that is an invention of the liberal press to make him look like something other than a thug. He was a poor student in high school, a pothead (the stolen cigars are used to make super sized joints commonly used in that neighborhood), is known to have assaulted a teacher (juvenile record sealed - teacher is a friend of my son-in-law), obviously man handled the clerk in the Quick Stop, and was going to a local vocational school to study refrigeration and air conditioning repair.

When government becomes oppressive, police lose the respect of the citizens because they enforce both legitimate laws and oppressive laws. And power does go to the head of some officers, so they abuse it. Sometime they are acting as we would expect in a free society, and sometime they are being thugs themselves. You can't assume that Wilson had no problem shooting Brown or that he was acting to oppress anyone.

"Bend over and grab your ankles" should be etched in stone at the entrance to every government building and every government office.

Load of crockshit: "People do

Load of crockshit:

"People do all sort of irrational things, especially when desperate."

We haven't established that he was desperate.

"And he was a teenage boy, which should automatically cast doubt on your assumption that he was rational."

So let us just assume that because he was a teenage boy, he was irrational?

"Brown stole cigars, which his family attorney now admits is true."

No. Dorian Johnson's attorney said that Brown took cigars from the store. But he also disputed that it was a "strong-arm robbery. Johnson has not been charged with anything.

"He was being stopped by a police officer. He scuffled with the police officer as evidenced by the medical report of the officer's damaged eye socket."

So this is an unsourced claim made by a blogger (the gateway pundit; a blogger known for lying in the past). It is very typical for people on both sides to use these kinds of fringe news stories as proof. See the whole "birther" issue where articles from these nonsensical websites were held up as fact.

More on the debunking:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/43751_Jim_Hofts_Unso...

"He ran 35 feet away after the scuffle with Wilson which is the testimony of his companion. He was shot from the front, not in the back."

So while the bullets might not have hit him from the back (one autopsy suggests that he was grazed from the back), there are multiple eyewitnesses saying he was shot at from the back.

"There are reports that there have been a dozen witnessed which back up Wilson's claim that Brown turned and bun rushed him."

Which reports? Just the one bystander on the video. And that is sourced from the Daily Caller...

"As far as him going off to college, that is an invention of the liberal press to make him look like something other than a thug."

Nope, he was going to technical school, Vatterott College.

"He was a poor student in high school"

Proof?

"a pothead (the stolen cigars are used to make super sized joints commonly used in that neighborhood)"

Proof? The fact that he stole cigars cannot mean that he is a pothead...that is a LEAP in logic!

"is known to have assaulted a teacher (juvenile record sealed - teacher is a friend of my son-in-law)"

Uh-huh. I will wait until this is verified.

"obviously man handled the clerk in the Quick Stop"

Yet the clerk reports nothing?

"and was going to a local vocational school to study refrigeration and air conditioning repair."

I thought he wasn't going to college?

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I still don't see

how that justifies the cop shooting him six times. If he was 35 ft away, then the cop was in no immediate danger; he could have shot him in the leg or another part of his body but firing six shots, two into his head, is pretty outrageous in my opinion...and the shots were in the middle of a residential complex which is highly irresponsible. Also, the cop stopped brown and his friend for no reason other than walking down a street...why is this a crime? As far as I am concerned, the cop was the provocateur...anyway, we know the cop will not be charged with anything they never are doesn't matter what they do.

What justifies shooting Brown is his charging the officer

from 35 feet away. How fast can an aggressor advance in a little over first down yardage on a football field? 35 feet equals just under 12 yards; just seconds is the answer.

Since Brown was bigger and younger than Wilson, and because he had already slugged Wilson hard enough to break a bone in his face, I think anyone in his right mind would have shot when the teen ran, turned, and advanced. 35 feet is well within range to accurately aim a pistol, so I would say that the first four shots in the arm which did not stop Brown justified the final two shots to the head. The fact that the final shot entered at the angle it did indicates Brown was advancing on Wilson; his forward momentum made him fall forward, otherwise he would likely just have slumped.

The way I understand this unfolded was the initial stop was to tell the teens to get out of the roadway. Wilson pulled away, heard the description of the robbery suspect, turned around, and the second contact was where the confrontation occurred.

The fact that the incident occurred in a residential area is immaterial. Self defense occurs where ever it is necessary. Otherwise you personally would be irresponsible to shoot someone who broke into your home and advanced on you.

"Bend over and grab your ankles" should be etched in stone at the entrance to every government building and every government office.

Just as many people

saying he didn't charge,maybe more, so all of this is just propaganda and rumors other than the cell phone videos of which I would think someone got it all, but we don't know that yet.

Brown is dead, that book is closed. Our problem is:

When government becomes oppressive, police lose the respect of the citizens.

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A quick start page search revels nothing of Johnsons confession

and checking infowars and a few MSM webpages.
I reserve my opinion.

There you have it

The media is at fault for the riot.

And I'm hearing

that Brown attacked the officer after being attacked.

Nonetheless,

I still believe Wilson had no right to play judge, jury, executioner! He could have shot Brown in the leg(s) to stop him...

That is, if this new twist is even the truth. So sick of the lies!!

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Ghees, he first shot him in the arm four times. How many more

non-lethal shots would you have recommended before firing to stop this big guy cold? He is reported to have finally fallen only a few feet from the officer.

Baden who did the autopsy says the head shots were the last two shots because they would have knocked him down and then there couldn't have been four shots in the arm cause he would have been face down just as he was after the two head shots.

The officer did not have a right to play judge, jury, and executioner but he certainly had a right to defend himself just as we all do, and as the facts are coming out, it seems clear to me he was absolutely justified in doing so.

Already the Brown family and their attorney have admitted he stole cigars. He acted like a thug in man handling the store clerk who tried to stop him. He is known locally to have a sealed juvenile record for attacking a teacher who is now talking about it. So I say he is a violent person, and it is entirely believable that he scuffled with the officer at the car (have you seen the medical report of the officer's eye socket break from a punch), and slammed the car door back on the officer as the officer attempted to exit the car.

Have someone stand 35 feet from you and then charge you and see how quickly they can reach you. I think you might change your opinion of whether you are going for a leg shot or two to the torso and one to the head as many people recommend. I think the officer exercised extreme restraint to have tried four non-lethal shots before aiming for Brown's head. If it had been me being charged, I would have aimed my first shot for the heart, my second for the center of the chest in hopes of catching the spine, and the third for the tip of the nose.

"Bend over and grab your ankles" should be etched in stone at the entrance to every government building and every government office.

PURPORTEDLY...

that's the most important word in all that you wrote...purportedly...

I'm sick of all the police abuse I see every day online...

but if Brown came at the Wilson after a struggle to take his gun, Wilson was justified to take his life. I would, you would, anybody in that situation would.

Initially I heard Brown was 35ft. away with his back to Wilson, hands in the air and Wilson unloaded on him. Now, I hear a whole different story. Brown came at him after breaking free from a struggle in Wilson's car to take his gun. Wilson had received a call of a robbery and Brown matched the description. He had every right and the obligation to stop and question him.

This isn't a case that I would protest police brutality. I can only go by what I've read or heard and honestly, I've heard contradicting stories.

I would be

justified, I agree, IF he were rushing me and IF I could not take him down. There were no shots to the leg(s) area. This was one big boy, and as apparently(?)shown, arm shots weren't stopping him. However, if this version is now the truth, I will concede that with adrenalin pumping and everything, it may not have registered in Wilson's mind to try shooting his leg(s). If (one of) the other version(s) is true, about Brown giving up, then I stand by my assertion that Wilson had no right to be judge/jury/executioner!

The main problem is that the story keeps changing and police have no one but themselves to blame, imo, for people not trusting them or the official story(ies).

This is the first I've heard that Wilson received a call about a robbery--I've read exactly the opposite!! I had also read that Wilson (before he was identified) was a black police officer!

How many more versions are we going to get??

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the new versions

are all coming from the police..what do you think that says about them...all of the leaks are from the police version....hmmm...wonder why that is?

The police are condemned if they don't reveal witness testimony.

and condemned again when they do if it doesn't fit the "rush to judgement" narrative some people hope for.

True, the police lie but when you have physical evidence that matches eye witness accounts you have to be honest with yourself even if you were suspecting something different, otherwise, you're no better than the police that lie.

the physical evidence...

we are not being shown? no evidence has been produced and eyewitness testimony APPEARS to be contradictory...some of this info is not from eyewitness testimony including the eye fracture which purportedly came from an unnamed friend of the policeman's wife...this is what you call evidence?

"Wilson had received a call

"Wilson had received a call of a robbery and Brown matched the description"

Everything I've heard about this indicates that Wilson was not aware of any robbery, and was confronting Brown because he was in the road blocking traffic. What source do you have that says otherwise?

A friend of the officer called into a local radio talk show

and said that Wilson told her he was not aware of the robbery when he initially told the boys to get out of the street. He drove off, heard the robbery report and the description which fit Brown who he had just seen, so he turned around and then the scuffle and subsequent events ensued at this second contact.

My experience with the few times I have witnessed events first hand and then seen news reports tells me never to trust the reports because the story gets distorted when it is condensed and relayed from person to person.

"Bend over and grab your ankles" should be etched in stone at the entrance to every government building and every government office.

It appears the evidence is

It appears the evidence is the word of the officer as related by a friend to a talk show. A court would not accept that as evidence, which is exactly why we should not be drawing conclusions and the court system should do its thing.

That is why we have a

That is why we have a judicial system and a grand jury to decide. Eyewitness accounts are usually inconsistent.

I don't buy the fact he tried

I don't buy the fact he tried to take his gun. That seems odd.
But even if he did, trying to disarm a man that you believe might kill you is good reason to be killed?
He was still unarmed. arrest him. There was absolutely no reason to shoot him 6 times except revenge. cop or no cop, any decent person should rather let the suspect get away than kill him, unarmed, on the street.

Brown fractured Wilson's eye-socket...

witnesses on both sides of the story said they heard a shot fired inside the car.