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Graphic Police Shooting in Riverview, MO yesterday Aug. 19 - anyone see this?

Found this while looking for *live* feeds from tonight:

"KWMU has published a video of what appears to be one of the shootings that happened yesterday. This happened in Riverview, about 15 minutes outside of the center of the protests. We believe that it is important to be transparent in what information we gather and allow for you to make the decision yourself on what you want to see or not see.

The video is graphic, and contains images of someone being shot and killed. Viewer discretion advised, you have been warned."


http://youtu.be/j-P54MZVxMU

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Translation?

because I can't understand a single word the cameraman said besides some garbled profanity.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

I can't believe so many are

I can't believe so many are defending the action of these cops. They receive intensive training to handle situations like this. But I guess that training just involves blowing peoples fucking heads off.

And your point being?

I expect the cops to act better than what I would and they did. I'd have shot the dude long before the cops opened fire. I would have stopped sooner but the guy would be just as dead seeing as how I use hollow point defense rounds in my .357 revolver. The only thing I find fault is the cop continues shooting when the guy is on the ground; that should warrant some charges but the initial shooting should not.

You sound like a NeoCon

Ever wonder if the cop didn't show up like they are bad asses and like they own the city? Yea probably nothing. If anything they should have sent in a scout/undercover cop, this is where you might want to hires honest black youngster, to check the area and see what's going on instead of, oh we got a call this guy might be armed with a swift-knife, so we are going to show up and if we some how get him upset we have reasons to kill him. Ever says yourself if the cops never showed up would it have been better? Just like a foreign policy.

And you sound like the type that

Any action by a cop is the wrong one even if it were saving a puppy from a burning building while giving our "elected" representatives a much needed kick in their ample, collective asses.

I call it as I see it. Most videos we see the cops come out and the moment the guy even looks at them funny they either beat him half to death while screaming to stop resisting or they draw and open fire. This guy lunged several times before the cops shot. True, they should have stopped shooting once he fell and I wish to see them held accountable for that. However, the initial shots fired were all on the guy. They don't call it suicide by cop for nothing.

does anyone else notice how little folks react?

If this was my community everyone would have freaked.

I guess this is why I live where I do.

Not that my community is immune, our cops just accuse and promote fear and false accusations till citizens are (currently) stable. That stability may change. The bogus nature of claims is bound to fall apart.

I have a Huge question for you all. Why do cops show up for a 'possible suicide' if they just shoot everyone anyways? If they are not strong enough to take the chance of altercation why did they take the job to 'serve and protect'? In my younger days I understood cops to be folks to risk life to save the life of this young man. That loss of pride in position seems to be the last straw of respect the people had. Loss of pride to Serve your community was also the last moment I thought it was a respectful enough position to join.

We don't need more cops, we need Better cops. I wouldn't care how much more they made than me, they just need to do a better job. I wouldn't do their Proper job at a low salary either. That's why I did not become one. Terrible cities need to either pay up or go without. And along the way hold accountable, witch I am SO glad people are starting to do with cameras. Those held accountable will be by far the first and best fix. I should go look for some car cams now...

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It sure looks like the guy

It sure looks like the guy was intending to commit suicide by cop. That's a situation that the cops need to be aware of and looking for so they don't fall for this. Of course I'm pretty much anti-cop because most of their job is to harass people and extract revenue or put people in prison for victimless crimes but still, this guy was trying to get killed. I think the proper response is to aim for the guys legs in this situation and when he can't walk you cuff him and take him in. I don't want to hear people stating that it can't be done because it surely can. Upper leg mass is similar to torso mass and makes a fine target. Even if he was only 20 feet away, 3 pops to the legs will take him down. And this training to "empty the clip" has got to go!! It's absolutely crazy to put 16 rounds downrange in a city environment.

Beware the cult of "government"...

someone pointed out the guy seems to

strategically move so the bystanders would not be in the line of fire. Sure looks like it to me.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know Peace." - Jimi Hendrix

For a few seconds the camera guy was directly in the line

of potential fire. And he just stands there. I think I would have been shouting something along the lines of "take cover, run!" to bystanders....who are all just milling around in what's about to become a live fire scene.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

Everything about this cell

Everything about this cell phone video seems odd, the start, the action and the people.

Powell baited the police

1) Powell robbed the store on purpose.
2) Put the evidence down on the curb and waited for the police to arrive.
3) He says something at 0:50 in the video: "I'm gonna..." (maybe put this down, face them down, know who I am? "I'm tired of this shit".
4) He has a weapon
5) He says shoot me! shoot me now!
6) He refuses to drop the knife
7) He moves toward the cop

I'd say the media got him riled up with the lies about Brown being shot in the back, etc. The media owns this guys death.

all good till after 7). Really, media to blame??

So it wasn't the guy in the picture, it wasn't the cops who chose to pull triggers and fire a barrage of bullets. It must have been 'media' who wasn't there.

Did you find a tape of fox or some source calling shots in a microphone? Maybe it was all set up and this kid agreed to wear vests and is sitting ok..

I would believe a 'conspiracy' before blaming media. A guy chose to take something that wasn't his and cops chose to add lead to a body. I don't see any other place to start putting blame.

It Would Be Nice To Have Police

...who resisted the temptation to take 'the bait' every time it's presented to them.

Brave words from behind your laptop

When someone has a weapon, robs a store, screams at you and comes toward you, let me see you take the knife in your gut.

Your comment is stupid. Every witness could have stepped up to talk him out of it - they did nothing.

The cops had one option that would have saved his life and that would be to stay in the car.

I Speak From Experience

I worked as a child care counselor with severely emotionally disturbed 12-18 year-olds. Many of them were psychotic or schizophrenic. I've intervened in plenty of fights, disarmed 'kids' larger than me who wielded knives and dealt with verbal abuse and threats on a regular basis. Child care counselors are trained to physically restrain youths using teamwork and without injuring them. (A minimum of two people are required when physical force is used).
Most child care workers are FEMALES. I've seen some courageous women deal with 200 lb muscular youths in ways that make most cops look like rank amateurs. (All without the 'benefit' of body armor, tasers, mace, or billy-clubs). You are correct that the witnesses present could have intervened and instead chose to do nothing. More's the pity. But most people aren't trained to deal with the mentally disturbed. Cops should be, however. The cops had other options besides shooting or hiding in their car. I think it's sad and pathetic they did what they did.

I agree

They seem to be weak and thoughtless people, and unprofessional as police officers. Although, there is no way to know the full story from a 6 min video.

No crime scene.....tape?

They used tape... so its a crime.

I counted 15 seconds

from when the police arrived to when the man was dead. The video does not show him threatening anyone. If two cops with guns were afraid, why didn't they get back in their car?

Really? The man was a threat,

Really? The man was a threat, he had a knife in his hand you can clearly see, he was told to stop and kept approaching, the true job of police is to protect, so what would they do when they got back in their car? Ask him if he wants ice cream and wait to see if he stabs someone else? I am against police on many issues when justified, this time police were justified.

How big is your monitor?

I can't make out a knife on mine. The guy does reach into is pocket (usually a bad idea in his situation) and I do hear cops ordering him to "drop the knife" but how many times has that been falsified by cops?

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

Especially when they cuffed

Especially when they cuffed him... though he was already dead.

deacon's picture

A justified police?

The job of ALL police dpts,city,state,sheriffs,are to protect the corporations. The scotus already ruled the role/job and function,was
not,to the people.This being fact,and seeing no one can find the term
cops or law enforcement in the const or dec of ind.,do you still have an argument?
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If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

I never said police are in

I never said police are in the constitution nor is fire or rescue or many others things. Show me where the SCOTUS made the ruling you speak of. Then we can have a discussion.

deacon's picture

First off

It is true that fire/rescue are not in the const.some get their funding by donations,And their jobs ARE to protect the people
But you did state that the true role of police is to protect,This to me,meant you were trying to justify that dpt (when there is no justification for them) other than pinkertons
But,check this out

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html?_r=0

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1976377/posts

http://cdn.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/10/One-More-...

It stands to reason after that ruing,that the role of all cops is to protect and serve the corporations from where they reside.
And it is also true,they are not const bound to protect the people,as they are not a proper function,but are the enforcers of ALL statutes,ordinances
and codes of said corp,OH,and they are for profit,making them for profit and hire and independent of the only rule of law,and that is the const,and the Bill of rights
deacon

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

Deacon, come on man, that

Deacon, come on man, that ruling is apples to oranges to what you claim, that suit was about they didn't do more to protect her ie; 24 hour guards around the property, did you even read the ruling and the article?. I have stated before I am critical of police in many ways, sometimes they are justified and do have a right to protect themselves either cop or citizen. This is exactly why I stopped posting here months ago, looks like it will remain that way, people take things out of context to suit their own agenda, I see that hasn't changed. By not using fact, it makes you no better than the MSM that we are all against in regards to propaganda.

deacon's picture

Neverquit

Yes I read them,all 3 articles I posted,I did not cherry pick nor twist the meaning to fit any agenda. Nor did I take things out of context
It was not just about 1 court case as you claimed, it was a court case that
encompasses the whole of america
If there IS NO reasonable expectation to be protected by the cops,and there are court cases where ones who protected themselves have gone to jail,then what recourse do we as a nation have?

What is a total farce that the scotus ruled "Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone By LINDA GREENHOUSE Published: June 28, 2005
The ruling applies even for a woman who had obtained a court-issued protective order against a violent husband making an arrest mandatory for a violation." Which is true,there is no mention of cops in the const,nor do cops swear an oath to it..do you not see the contradiction here?
d

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

I am not trying to get into a

I am not trying to get into a pissing contest here, the ruling is more important than the articles written. The woman was suing because her children were kidnapped and she had a protective order which the husband violated. She was suing because they didn't do more to protect her or her children. perhaps protect was the wrong word for me to choose, I should have said defend against harm. I too don't believe police should have to protect someone 24/7 to assure nothing happens to them or their family, people should be protecting themselves and their family personally.

We are just splitting hairs here.

No point going any further with this.

deacon's picture

You are right

No need to go further,if all you thought we were doing was having a pissing contest...And here I thought we were discussing that ruling

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

When Sheep Stray Too Far From the Herd

...the wolves will be there to pick them off. Whatever may have become of society's 'sheepdogs', they certainly have not found their way onto our police forces.

Blue Gangsters

I watched the video. Murder.

disgruntled and uppity